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Welcome to /tech/ - ∞chan's technology board.

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/tech/ is for the discussion of technology and related topics.

/tech/ is NOT your personal tech support team or personal consumer review site. We have stickies for that. Keep those kinds of posts in there.

For tech support, software recommendations, and other questions that don't warrant their own thread, please use the '/tech/ Questions and Support' sticky.

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For meta discussion, please go to >>>/metatech/.

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Bring all your hardware, software and other troubles here.

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are there some decent resources on how to build ROMs for project treble enabled devices?

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Looking to buy something but aren't sure what to get? Ask here.

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I just tried it, it doesn't, it's only taking embedded artwork from my music

also check'd


>Intel Pentium gold and silver with WiFi support directly in the CPU.

Why nobody is talking about this?

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No it's not. The corporations are the primary pusher of this shit. They want to herd the sheep (consumers) into a corral where all they can do is spend and consume. The whole reason for this is so that the poor cannot save their money and get out of poverty while the rich benefit by getting fatter and richer. It's the whole reason why people are pretending socialist values work. Those are also being pushed by corporatists and globalists because it further establishes consumer dependency on the state instead of their own agency to save money, invest, and get out of poverty.

The LEAs benefit secondary to this.




You just summed up The USA in 7 sentences.



Corporatist and globalist corruption recognizes no political borders. This is happening in Europe, China, Russia, and not surprisingly in poor countries in Africa and South America.


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1. They're not normal CPUs, but SoCs, which have commonly had NICs on-die/package in for decades.

2. IME has already had unfettered PCIe, RAM, and QPI/DMI access for years, meaning full control over the NICs.

3. 802.11 still needs an antenna, so it's not like the SoC can magically rat you out from within a fraction-of-an-inch microchip, you colossal sperg.


Future is carrying entire computer systems in an area smaller than a typical coin. Not surprisingly some of the most commonly used wireless protocols would have to be soldered into the CPU to ensure the system remains small.

Maybe there will be open source system on chips thirty years from now on. I, for one, wouldn't mind carrying my entire computer inside my ring and interact with it via the holographic screen it projects into the air.

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Been using linux since hardy, used various forms of it from suse to arch for different applications but now thanks to pledge+chromium it has replaced arch on even my laptop and my private server has run it since I first heard of it. My question is has anyone tried it in a workstation setting?

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Why even bother using OpenBSD at that point? No amount of security will save you if you purposefully install spyware on your system. Another system would be much more well suited for you, as OpenBSD has a severe lack of software, and will almost certainly be incompatible with any of your games, if not steam itself. You're better off using windows or Ubuntu, since you are already disregarding your privacy.



>>1031403 OpenBSD is an inferior OS because it can't run Steam!



Ah, i see now!. Security through lack of functionality.

take that jews!



My attention span is too low for that.

If I had any purpose, reason, or a real way to benefit off of making my own Linux Desktop from scratch, I would be dedicated enough to do it.

But not here, not now, not like this...

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When will Cniles admit their language is shit?


it cant be that bad when most operating systems and similar things are made in it

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Comparison between Tor and i2p?

What are the differences between just booting up tor browser/entering the network and running i2p?

Are there any imageboards or any random interests websites on i2p or is it dead?

I boot up tor frequently to see how stuff is going and visit a few imageboards, been listening about i2p for a few years but never did any search.

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tor is onion routing. your packet is enclosed by 3 or more additional packets around it.

i2p is what they call garlic routing. your packet is included with a bunch of different packets and sent through the network.

tor is used mostly for connecting to clearnet, while i2p (invisible internet project) attempts to create a surreptitious network within the internet.


No proof-of-work or proof-of-stake is required to create an identity, so none of the networks is anonymous.



>create identity


nice meme. the identity would only be used to ban people with wrong opinions.



I mean, the relay nodes



i2p doesn't claim to be anonymous, but it doesn't matter because both of them leak the IP's bootstrapped and connected in the network.

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wiby.me is full of html only websites and interesting things I haven't seen from google.

duckduckgo is privacy focused and doesn't try to curate results according to your search history. But its still not quite as good as google for finding things.

Is there any search engine you can unironically use as a substitute to google or are we pretty much stuck with them forever?

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You guys ARE doing your part and adding links to wiby, right? I added three today



I'll do it after I archive some Japanese geocities sites. Not much point doing that now when the service over there is going down in March.


Just submitted 8 websites, 3 of which were pornographic. Now we wait


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Holy hell. I don't deserve this beauty. Thank you sm


https://searxes.danwin1210.me/ god tier aggregator of aggregaytors, the only catch is it appears you can't get results directly from clearnet urls

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>To ensure that this vital software is secure, NVIDIA is working with AdaCore, a development and verification tool provider for safety and security critical software. By implementing the Ada and SPARK programming languages into certain firmware elements, we can reduce the potential for human error.


>Both languages were designed with reliability, robustness and security in mind. Using them for programming can bring more efficiency to the process of verifying that code is free of bugs and vulnerabilities.


> Some NVIDIA system-on-a-chip product lines will migrate to a new architecture using the RISC-V Instruction Set Architecture (ISA). Also, NVIDIA plans to upgrade select security-critical firmware software, rewriting it from C to Ada and SPARK. Both moves are intended to increase verification efficiencies to achieve compliance with the functional safety standard ISO-26262.

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Forth breaks down on generic code, on system-portable code, and on troubleshooting. And its hell of "other people's code" is much worse than most languages. Even fairly common problems like stack errors are a bitch to fix, even after you have tooling for them.

And there are a few places where Forth as practiced is pointlessly pessimal on modern systems. Like CREATE DOES> , "the pearl of Forth", often requires unnecessary memory fetches.

Implementation quality is generally poor, with a lot of surprising variations in performance, to the point that you might different parts of the same project to use different implementations.

I'm not one to say that popularity matters that much, but Forth is so unpopular that any serious project will be like mowing an abandoned lawn with tall grass without checking it over carefully--every other yard, you have to stop and pull a dead body or stolen statuary or evil spirits out of the lawn mower.

And if you think /tech/'s full of LARPers, the Forth community'll make your head explode.



Well, I knew that all current implementations are kinda weak to begin but, but I was thinking about writing my own because that's the kind of thing that I'm interested in. The actual language is what really matters, since my original idea was to use what I learned from other languages to design my own. I don't intend to rely on someone else's work and I have no interest in "communities" (pretty damn sure that they are all crap), so it doesn't matter too much. My interest is to pretend to be living in the golden age of computing and develop basic shit on my own from scratch, pretending that it's being done for the first time, so I can understand how it was done.

Also, I am incapable of teamwork and almost dislike forking, so I have no intent of relying on anyone else. I only care about optimizations. Readability is only important if it doesn't prevent that and makes my own life easier. The machine comes first, other humans come last. I would even say that if you can't read optimized code, then you probably shouldn't be reading it. In my case, it's just fun hobby shit so it will never matter. I'm just trying to learn a lot of shit and occasionally hear what other people have to say, and then use the information to improve my ideas.



>Still, I think Ada does look nice, but really verbose, and perhaps too close to natural language, which is inefficient,

It actually *really* good for error-detection. Especially when you're refactoring nested constructs.

> and kinda pointless since there is no need for a language to try that hard to be readable by people that haven't studied it.

I flatly disagree; the readability for non-programmers is absolutely needed so that you can have domain-experts who aren't programmers understand it (say physicists or statisticians).


jesus christ, another group of tech nerds who couldn't produce a string length function or a webpage that does a database query without RCE vulns wrote an article about security, ep. #35723582375. +1 me on HN and twitter

>Ada is crap

>C is good

>programming is hard, the vulns aren't my fault

>C is the bestest PL ever made

>Ada is crap and impractical

>cars crash just from ABS malfunction and ECU vulns and bugs

>programming is hard, not my fault

>Ada is good! let's use it to make self driving cars



You're not wrong -- perhaps the biggest problem/difficulty is that the industry standardized on C and C++ and waste untold millions trying to "fix C" or make a "Better C" (Java, C#, Swift, ObjectiveC, etc) and now have such emotional investiture it's like looking at a fully internalized Sunk Cost Fallacy.

Though it really is super-frustrating to be plagued by bugs that are easily detectable if not outright avoided.

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What is the best program on GNU?

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More like the authors were too lazy to implement support for UTF-8 and this was convenient cop out.



Unicode is not UTF-8.


You are probably right. Stallman always does this when he doesn't understand something; so he will call it evil, steal it anyways, and then tell everyone how his version is better because of the bloat he introduced.



Works for one page documents, if you're trying to leak a thousand pages good luck taking those pics with the camera you aren't allowed to have without anyone noticing.



>UTF-8 is a variable width character encoding capable of encoding all 1,112,064[1] valid code points in Unicode using one to four 8-bit bytes.[2] The encoding is defined by the Unicode Standard, and was originally designed by Ken Thompson and Rob Pike.[3][4] The name is derived from Unicode (or Universal Coded Character Set) Transformation Format – 8-bit.

You are correct but it is semantics.







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Can we all agree that windows mobile was and still IS the most advanced mobile OS.

Instead of keeping with this bulldozer of an OS they decided to go after iPlebs and make "smart" phones for dumb people.

For those of you who never used one you are truly missing something.

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a 5€ usb stick can easily fit the content of 5000 floppy disks. its not expensive at all because a box of those shitty disks used to cost at least half of the usb stick.



Thanks for answering a rhetorical question



>Optical media can't use standard block device filesystems.

Can someone explain this?



He's talking about nigger-tier one-track mediums, while being painfully unaware about the glory that is DVD-RAM


HTML was pretty good. you could read and publish articles and shit. now i'm back to reading mostly at libraries


any of you fucking larpers actually use a minimal system for day-to-day computing? With minimal I mean doesn't jump up to 200W of power consumption when I open a text file. I'm talking minimal hardware here.

I keep looking at ARM computers for that but they're mostly retarded chinkware that's borderline impossible to set up with a mainline kernel. Every time I tried to get into shit like the Pi it ended up being a disappointment for various chink-engineering related reasons. My wish would be a minimal system that can do shell, some light graphics, browsing not required and no fucking fans. I don't think it's possible without x86 and the inherent bloat, botnet, fans and high power consumption that has. Why isn't this a thing in two-thousand-fucking-nineteen? Also none of the chinkware I looked at can drive anything higher than 1080p. What the shit is up with that?! I have a 4k monitor and sadly got fucking used to it. Should I go back to 4:3 screens /tech/? I just wanna simplify my life somewhat.

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CRTs have no input lag because they don't pointlessly buffer the image before outputting. once the current pixel on the wire is received it's output within a few microseconds to the current raster position


high quality CRTs are still better than most (or all) LCDs


>Shit viewing angles and contrast is literally not true anymore. Stop being poor and afford yourself a nice screen from this century, kiddo.

TN - turbo shit viewing angles

VA - Shit viewing angles

IPS - decent viewing angles. lots of money and shitty pixel response curves and overshoot, also they commonly have input lag on top of this

>Also yeah, you're totally gonna notice even 50 ms of input lag, idiot.

i """notice""" 16ms of input lag caused by double buffered vsync. any FPS game is on a whole different level once you turn double buffered vsync off


>crt can't even render horizontal or vertical line properly

Negligable compared to issues calculator screens have.

>eyelet can't notice the interlacing flicker

Computer CRTs don't interlace. Flicker has been solved 3 or more decades ago when they stepped the refresh rate to 75Hz/85Hz and far beyond. My CRT goes up to 160Hz (at lower resolutions).

>earlet can't hear the [buzz]

Yeah that's a problem in some of my CRTs unfortunately. Of course you have to contend that some LCDs do this shit too, and that if you're listening to music all the time like a real G, you can't hear the buzz.

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Set your monitor to 60Hz.

Download any game ever.

Enable double buffered vsync.

Enjoy your 16ms input lag.

Report back and tell us how you felt. Protip: I'll just laugh at you if you're a cretin who can't feel this.

The reason people know about vsync input lag, is because in 2005 they bought a new game that has vsync by default, and couldn't move the mouse around properly, and googling "mouse lag" gave them the solution of "disable vsync". Also the ear can feel around 8-13ms input lag IIRC. But the last time I tested this was when i was 9 years old. Also it depends on the base input lag.

An LCD already has 16.66ms input lag at 60Hz. Putting on vsync adds another 16.66ms. USB Mice are said to have 8ms input lag.


>IPS glow

also shit pixel response curves, and possible input lag


network lag isn't really comparable to input lag


What's your point? I have two CRTs like what you describe which indeed weigh 70lbs but are still superior in every other aspect. The weight/size argument is completely retarded made up shit. What dudebro says:

"I don't have space for it"

what dudebro doesn't want you to know: I already have a hard enough time getting a girl without being a tinfoil hatter!111

>even that is not that sharp anymore due to wear and tear it sustained over the almost two decades since it was manufactured

false. the real problem is they will die in a few years from the phosphors fading

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okay have a new argument. widescreen sucks because viewing angles become shit (unless you have an IPS, but then lag becomes shit). also curved tries to fix this by making you only be able to view the display head on, while marketing it as "more immersive"


you could always use GPU scaling or even in software...

scaling is only a problem in retarded monitors anyway, but yeah, good luck finding one with a good image and also non-retarded firmware


i'm on a laptop from 2006. it can play 1080p content with software decompression.


you can literally walk into a thrift store or garage sale and get a 5:4 monitor for $5. i don't think 4:3 is much more, just harder to find


lol 2:3 pulldown is noticeable ALWAYS, not to mention 29FPS or 25FPS or whateverthefuck looks like slideshow. "i remember when i was a kid i'd be like wtf the movie is lagging, that's not even possible, why do they do this shit?" when watching a VHS. a single duplicate frame at 60Hz (16.66ms) is noticeable too, for an object moving across the screen. not that any of this has anything to do with input lag


>also 4k is abslutely worthless and just makes working harder in most software. I really hate trying to move a single pixel even on my hd

>software is shit therefore some type of display is shit

non argument. i have no idea whether 4k is good though, in the stores they show rigged content. and even more rigged for OLED

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seek help




bump so more charlatans can be BTFOd next week

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Is it usable? Is it currently better than X? Is it botnet? Why does no one ever talk about it here?

>inb4 framebuffer

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>when less than 5% of their customers are on Linux?

I have a hard time believing that with the advent of scamcoin.

AMD is supposed to be better all around for that but you still see shit posted of bitcoin idiots posting pictures of literally stacks of nvidia gpu's 10 feet high for their bitcoin rigs.


wayland is seen largely as a joke because you'll still end up pulling in Xserver as a depend anyway if you actually want to do anything.

In that wayland has failed to branch away from X and has just become another bloated hacked together mess stringed ontop of it.

The idea was admirable and i still wish for it to succeed but in it's current state it's literally just X+another damn protocal.

It's also much slower than Xorg so if you wanted to switch to it for "minimal speed" reasons, don't bother.






I don't like the nVidia monopoly any more than you do, but the choices for years now are either blow money on underpowered joke hardware, or sacrifice decent desktop drivers to buy team green.



>is it botnet

Can you please start using using proper terms on technology board?

Easiest way to spot newb larper

>everything I don't like or understand is a botnet

Let's call things by their real names pumpkin, ok?



>Can you please do X on /tech/

>Easiest way to spot

>It's not botnet goy


I speak for /tech/



Easiest way to spot the jew

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I was just banned from Tilde.town for activity I performed outside of the server. I find this highly hilarious. I in no way violated their idiotic CoC(K) while inside the server. Rather, the admin took it upon himself to research me and discover that I post Pro-National Socialist things on GNU Social and elsewhere.

This is the new precident, it doesn't matter your behavior, it matters your beliefs and yourself whether or not you break your ToS.

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I have no idea what that thing is supposed to be, but if the admin is just like a form admin you should complain to his higher-ups. Even if you don't want to use that service you should bring it to their attention.



If you start excluding ideologies you don't like you'll always end up with admins that ban you over insignifcant disagreements.


thats why you use everything anonymously. different names emails and passwords everywhere so they cant know that its you.



*precedent. learn to use a spell checker


>it suggests that you would not enjoy being a part of the town

I would suggest gassing the entire population of the town

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How do pirate websites like yourporn.sexy or porntrex manage to provide all that HQ porn for free?

I mean, where the fuck do they host their content? Where do they get the bandwidth?

I started making websites in the early 2000 and I never had to stream a lot of "heavy content", so in my mind you would receive a blasphemous bill if you try to serve video content to the masses. Maybe it's not the case anymore.

So, please let me know more about how to serve content that requires a lot of bandwidth.

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Most of you people don't need porn because you're fucked in the head plenty already.



>for free

You are special kind of idiot aren't you?



>muh advertiso shekels pay for it




usually people mean that it does not cost them any money when they say that.




and did you have anywhere within 0.0001% of the traffic of yourporn.sexy?


they'd be and are destroyed even without it...


literally noone is using their disposable income to host a shitty pronz site filled with ads and malware. they're making profit.

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