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Bring all your hardware, software and other troubles here.

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Mix it down first if you want to encode the audio, and reread the muxing section of ffmpeg's man page about the copying.

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Looking to buy something but aren't sure what to get? Ask here.

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What are some good wifi-capable PDAs or pocket-sized non-smartphone devices? Would I need one that is hackable? why or why not?


>Nintendo Switch

Nigga what are you smoking? That's the last thing you'd want to use as a comp for the following reasons:

#.1 It's not pocket sized. PSP is the maximum in "pocket-sized" at all and it's already fucking huge.

#.2 It's expensive as fuck to replace. Even if you managed to pocket it, there's still the part about it being Nintendo's most fragile system to date. You'd be better off with something with a lot less liability in case it gets completely fucked up.

#.3 It's only customizable if you hack it, and right now the hacking scene is not advanced enough to keep honest homebrewers safe from online banhammers.

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Yeah lil' boy, the new major software company will go full retard by requiring constant internet connection (and ot Kb/s shit) to use your new software.

Better buy this 128Gb ram kit and subsribe for a new internet connection. (Because yeah, it will only support RAM hogs internet browsers fag)

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No bro, my dude. The companies told me all these constant waves going every where is fine, it's like not a problem at all. It doesn't give you cancer or damage your cells or anything! Like bro it's fine!

Normies will reject cloud shit because they want to be MLG pro types even when they're scrubs. The other issue is that launch events would be worst than any MMO ever. Imagine having a million people wanting to play your game and having to render and stream all that at once. MMO servers can't even deal with that many people logging on let alone running the client and host side.



>5G is around 80-90Ghz




cringe and butthurt



>Face it, everyone ITT has already fucking disproved you. Google will become the fucking world and there is nothing you can do about it.

Google will just become Microsoft 2 until another company comes along and replaces them just as MS did with IBM in the first place. Nothing new under the sun. As for cloud services, that will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever (ever) happen in America due to data caps. Even the most retarded ultranormie cuck consumers will not blow tons of money going over their data cap. And this problem is going to get far, far, far worse as Net Neutrality dies so you have to pay extra to get functional, let alone high-speed, internet.

The only time it could work is if the ISP offers it directly. But the ISP already does this with normal phone services (landlines, voice, text), so literally who cares because in that case Ma Bell is rebuilt and simply gouges the fuck out of everyone to the point where normies adopt meshnets so they don't have to pay $50 to watch a 30 min TV show.

The Internet is not free, it is a paid service. As a result of this, streaming services are unlikely to go mainstream unless a total telecom monopoly happens (which I'll admit is plausible, but it'll be AT&T not Google, and the monopoly will also drive the net itself into the ground in a way not even normies will fully accept).



>The companies told me all these constant waves going every where is fine, it's like not a problem at all. It doesn't give you cancer or damage your cells or anything! Like bro it's fine!

People said the same thing about radio, TV, airplane ATC, your microwave and even railroad signalling. All of it is bunk. There's nothing wrong with wireless, only if it's proprietary.

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I'm a retard. What the fuck is this guy talking about and who the fuck is paying for shit like this.




>who the fuck is paying for shit like this.

The taxpayers

>What the fuck is this guy talking about

Computers be racist and shit


He means: Ooga Booga! Gibs me dat!

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Either way, they're probably the reason it's in the good shape it's in currently.


Great news. I hope the code isn't trash and meets quality expectations!

I'm still gonna torrent steam nose vidya.


Holy fucking shit, does this mean I can run games like GTA V natively on Loonix now?!

Looks like i'll be ditching Windows faster than I thought!



If it runs in Wine, then yes.



You already could, DXVK just means you can run it on potatoes too now. The real question is when is someone going to give intel and nouveau vulkan support? Nouveau is starting with a spir-v to llvm bytecode interpreter. But intel hardware doesn't have any vulkan support.

Also holy shit this might deserve its own thread https://steamcommunity.com/games/221410/announcements/detail/1696055855739350561

>Windows games with no Linux version currently available can now be installed and run directly from the Linux Steam client, complete with native Steamworks and OpenVR support.

>DirectX 11 and 12 implementations are now based on Vulkan, resulting in improved game compatibility and reduced performance impact.

So essentiallly valve is using DXVK patchsets with latest wine version for newer games. And for older games too straight from the steam client. Valve official owns the linux market for games now. I don't know how to feel about valve working directly with codeweavers/wine though. Time will tell.

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Anyone here program in FORTH? It seems like a really nifty little language. I have no experience with it. I'm thinking of Working through "Starting FORTH" after I finish SICP. FORTH is interesting in that in many ways it's the opposite of Lisp. Lisp is a high level language where code can be treated as data. FORTH is a low level language where data can be treated as code. It's extremely minimalist and is basically a step up from assembly. It has a REPL and is often used as a shell on microcontrollers.

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That's why you use it on stack-based processors. Obviously Forth is slow on x86.


I used it on embedded in an academic context, it's alright. Really just the fact that it's interpreted makes it extremely useful for real world systems. You can just keep trying different values for pulsewidth until your servo is in exactly the right position. Although I think it's now out of favor with people using eLua, the reverse Polish notation probably throws people off. Fun Fact: The arm on the Space Shuttle was programmed in Forth.



lisp machine guy, is that you?


Friends don't let friends use Forth.



Jokes aside: Programming in forth is one of a few /tech/ related things I will never do for money again.

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How would the field of electronic binary calculators have evolved had the Axis powers won the war?

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>broadcasting microwaves for two centuries

you mean 100 years, tops. Radio wasn't widely used until just after WW1.

This means our radio bubble is 80 lightyears across.


This is a list of every catalogued start within 100 lightyears. 500 stars, of which only 41 have planets(one of those is Sol).

41 systems even worth visiting within our possible visibility bubble. Outside that, theres no chance any alien civilization could find us except by pure luck.

Of the billions of stars with planets in our galaxy, what are the fucking chances they would happen to travel through our (tiny) radio bubble and pick up faint broadcasts of Betty Boop singing or the Hindenburg crashing, then decide its a good idea to come here?



English and Spanish are both Germanic peoples, retard.



English? Somewhat. Spanish and Mediterraneans? No, genetic tests show the opposite. You are trying to co-opt Mediterranean history because your own is so pathetic; figured a drooling deutscher would say this. WE WUZ ROMANS AND GREEKS AND SHIEETTT... (Also, the Spanish, Sardinian, and Basque peoples are closest to the original stock of Europe. That's right, the people you call "darkie moors" and "sandnigger rape babies" are more European than you mongoloid snowniggers).



>spanish are germanic people

haha holy shit germ men actually believe this



Everybody who knows about the great migration knows this, Moishe.

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>v28.0.0 (2018-08-16)

>We are excited to bring you Pale Moon 28.0. This is a new major milestone in Pale Moon's release history.

>We are now building on the Unified XUL Platform which has been forked off from Mozilla's mozilla-central at a point before Rust and Quantum to continue focus on the XUL interface language and traditional browser extensions. Many thousands of things have changed since the v27 (AKA "Tycho") versions, which can't possibly all be listed here. Instead, the most pertinent improvements in this new release are highlighted here:

> SpiderMonkey update: The JavaScript engine has received a major upgrade and now supports all landmark features from the ECMAScript standards as carried by mainstream browsers. This should put an end to the increasing JavaScript issues we've seen due to web frameworks not being browser-agnostic in that respect, or the browser not supporting what websites expect.

> Goanna update: The layout and rendering engine (Goanna) has been updated to its 4th generation (version 4.*) which brings with it improved compatibility with "trendy" CSS styling techniques that build on a few very specific features (e.g. CSS Grid). Goanna continues to build on tried-and-tested software fallbacks in case hardware acceleration can't be used, and Linux remote desktop users can continue to leverage xrender for speedy remote screen updates in Pale Moon.

> DOM enhancements: Enhancements in the Document Object Model provides websites with updated APIs to perform their tasks. (e.g. Fetch, WebAnimations, WebCrypto, HTML Input Element Extensions, etc.)

> Media enhancements: Our media back-end update is, for all intents and purposes, complete. MSE media streaming (for MP4) should be compatible with all major players on the market now. MSE for WebM is still disabled by default due to some compatibility issues that need to be examined, but you may enable this in preferences to e.g. allow 4k video playback on some sites that only offer UHD in WebM format. We now also support playback of FLAC-encoded audio.

> New: WebGL2 support! Pale Moon now supports the WebGL2 standard for enhancedPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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>>intended behaviour resolved in another bugreport


>>uses a deprecated spec

<<why isn't it working as I want it to work :(

Why are anti-Mozilla shills so stupid?

>every WONTFIX is a backdoor




>This FTP server does not have any anonymous publically accessible resources. Anonymous access to this server is restricted.

>Please disconnect and use the correct, full FTP address (with login credentials) given on sites that link to this FTP server in an official capacity.



Shit, I'm sorry. I pasted the link from my browser's address bar instead from the link hidden behind a few pages on Palemoon's site, didn't realize it had a login. This should work:




>lets leave a bug in a depreciated system that is still in the codebase

>lets leave a bug in a modern function because it is "intended behaviour"

>these are't intentional bugs that can be abused, a backdoor, we are leaving goy

>these are ((("intended behaviour")))


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>30 year old boomer drinks Monster

I honesly thought energy drinks were more popular among 15 year olds than 30 year olds, at least it is here in snownigger land.


And here is another reason for avoiding Palemoon like the plague: https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip/issues/86

tl;dr: Palenigger shuts down WIP port of Palemoon to OpenBSD over POSSIBLE breach of the overtly restrictive Palemoon license.


I think he meant new versions of classical Firefox addons that have been around since the Bush era, not (((NuFox addons))).


>removing support for non-pozzed platforms


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Get fucked mate. A large portion of FOSS users are not programmers or if they are they aren't skilled in the language that the project uses (in LO's case, C++). If you can't handle being told by a lot of your users that something is broken without resorting to "hurr durr fix it yourself xD" than you should hand the project over to someone who can. Acting like an absolute knob to people who report bugs to you will only make them less likely to do so in the future.



I can't agree with your position. First of all, I did in fact had experience of "fixing it myself". It was an open feature request that's been there from day 1. I had to learn C++ to do it because I never used it before then, granted I already knew C and other OOP languages. And second of all, as a maintainer of a small project I entirely support the whole idea of just telling people to fix it themselves. I have my own priorities and to-do lists, and the only way I gonna do something I wasn't already planning to do is if you pay me.



>A large portion of FOSS users are not programmers or if they are they aren't skilled in the language that the project uses

This doesn't matter. If you need technical help, then go find a skilled helper to help you. If you need help modifying your cabinet to have more shelves, go find a cabinet maker. If you need help connecting your fridge to the water line, go find a plumber. If you need help adding a second floor to your house, go find a builder.




Great analogy. Berating FOSS developers for not implementing the shit users want is like berating masons for building you a free house but without doing it to your specifications.

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Anyone fell for the net configurations trap?

>buy friends old router for 4$ because "meh, I can and like tech"

>it's a pretty common tp link

>"cool, what can I do with it?"

>firmware reversing might find some vulnerabilities

>stop mid reversing cuz no experience doing this shit, dunno a lot about it

>"you could install new firmware"


>install Openwrt cuz it has "open" in it's name rather than DD-wrt

>"holy shit, I didn't know wifi strength limitations are country based"



>make LEDs turn on left to right like that 80s smart car or something


>configs out of wazoo

wasted something like 20 hours trying to learn all about this and fucking around trying to make a wifi repeater. Made it with highest wifi strength options and my wifi now ranges around 100 meters from my house

according to my countrys law it is illegal but meh, no agency will try to triangulate my house just to shut down my wifi cuz I have a little stronger wifi that goes 100 meters and nobody will nark unless they know some shit about tech

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And because if they don't comply with the law they will definitely get legally assraped.



They = the manufacturers of the AP



>And because if wireless modem manufactuers don't backdoor their modems by (((legal national security mandate))) they will definitely get (((legally assraped.)))

Fixed that for you. Do I need to mention that most router manufactuers such as cisco are already pwned by the GCHQ/CIA/huwiee? Do I even need to go over the backdoors in just about every router since 2005? Whether hardware, software, or incompetence via bugs there is a backdoor of some sort in every single last one unless you install something like openwrt, dd-wrt, and or gentoo. Actually gentoo would be better because libressl.




Maybe that's why every normie that spends their time glued to the phone is retarded.

I mean they always were, but the ones of today are specially so.



Please tell me more about the backdoors in every router.

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Seriously, what's stopping the CIA from implanting their own package maintainers, bribing some or even making their own distro?

Imagine how beneficial it'd be for them to own a Debian package maintainer. Just like that, they could implant a package with a malicious patch into almost every Debian based distro, and there's one that's of particularly great interest to them, namely Tails. But even if they don't own a Debian package maintainer, if they had a man in the right position on some popular Debian based distro like Mint or Ubuntu, that would still be extremely beneficial.

Imagine if some newer, smaller distro was actually started and is literally owned by the CIA. Like, some distro that would be appealing to the kind of people who visit this place (because those are the types of people that would probably be quite appealing for them to monitor), like some hot new systemd free distro or free as in freedom distro or something. Like Artix, antiX, Hyperbola, Obarun, MX Linux or some Devuan based distro something.

Less likely, but possible is Void, but even if they hadn't started Void themselves, Void is starving for package maintainers, imagine how easy it'd be for them to push their man in.

Again, less likely, but possible is Mint, I mean Ubuntu and lots of other distros were filling the same niche, Mint wasn't really necessary (which is why it wasn't very likely for "civilians" to start Mint, like nobody really needed it, so why would people waste their effort), and by that time it was obvious that Linux was the OS used by people concerned about privacy and it was still not too late to start a distro that could one day be the most popular normalfag distro, so they could've seen an opportunity to tweak GNOME a bit to make it look like windows and pitch that to the masses and use their CIA powers to spread it and popularize it; that way, they'd have a popular distro to use to monitor most of the tech illiterate people who switched to Linux for privacy for whatever reason.

And how the fuck can anyone trust Fedora is beyond me, I mean RedHat is literally in cahoots with the NSA, imagine how easy it would be for them to put their people in the right positions in the Fedora project through RedHat.Post too long. Click here to view the full text.


Nothing. I trust binary distros because I trust in the community to fix problems as they come to light.


It's why we've been moving to reproducible builds. It's not like it really matters though since your software is made by transexual communists that have been recently taught by their Jewish handlers to bash the fash and the sores itelf might contain AIDS.

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Who else skipping this shit?

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>hurr durr if you turn your back to the enemy they cant hurt you

Just pretending, or legit?

Consider that global illumination cabin they showed and suspiciously didn't move around in. The presentation suggests you just flick a switch and suddenly dynamic GI, the holy grail! The reality is that the textured geometry necessary to cast rays against and pick up surface color wouldn't be being updated on the card when not on screen and there have been a decade of papers on attempts to fudge that. So you have options: disable culling, or come up with a hack. But wait, the promise was that we'd not have to use hacks anymore! Muh flicked switch! Yeah, that's the lie. In reality, this would likely be done via sending an unculled low res mesh to the card for lighting, probably one of the LoD models, and then using the solved lighting to paint the visible geometry. But that's still somewhat expensive and now also chunky, low res lighting. A scene with a lot of small spaces will have issues with them not having shadows, and scenes with a lot of contrasting colors will get the wrong ones. And so more hacks, probably requiring the artists to manually indicate areas to shadow more or maintain yet another LoD model for lighting where areas with problems are left high detail (and high cost), and then have to redo these whenever editing the base model.



TL;DR: RTX is a con made to steal $$$$ from unsuspecting 20xx buyers? Sounds like classic Nvidia.

Damn, and I was thinking of getting a RTX2070 to replace my RX480 yesterday. Guess i'll be getting a Vega 56 then!



Something else that I noticed: no benchmarks whatsoever, only some vague "higher FPS than Titan XP and 1080Ti guize!" bullshit. Suspicious?



The smaller, localized effects like better shadow blending in those highly custom areas of womb raider they showed would be the more common use imo but I don't know if anyone would care much - it's like physx just ending up adding more trash and clutter because that was the easy thing to do with it. I think they'd rather have more fps.

The really cool thing of effortless dynamic GI lighting in all games is bullshit but that's probably what people think they're buying.



To me, all this other bullshit doesnt matter. Modern graphics is not perfect.

Ray tracing is not perfect either, but usually produces aesthetically better renders.

The only thing that matters with is is 60fps. IF they can't hit 60fps on their new cards, they simply won't sell at that price. which seems unlikely right now, but we'll find out soon enough

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What do you think of this, /tech/?


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Yes. Wait, you mean your post right?


A display server protocol.



no nigger wayland is a library and it's implemented by third-party compositors, there's no server about it



Wayland isn't a networking protocol so it cannot be X12.



In 1998, there was a big flame war on the linux kernel mailing list about getting KGI into the kernel. Linus Torvalds explained his concerns about GGI stating, "I think that X is good enough" and expressing concern regarding the overall direction of GGI.



The old X was lean enough to run fine on my 4-meg 33 MHz 486 in 1995. You can't do that with X now, because they turned it into a bloated piece of shit, just like web browsers and other stuff that used to work fine became bloated garbage full of bugs. That's what "modern" means. It's code word for "we're stupid niggers who like to fuck shit up". Hell they couldn't even stop at the software, they fucked up the CPUs too. Fucking niggers.

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I have converted Torah to a numeric array (each hebraic letter corresponding to a number, 1 to 22) and I made every pair to be considred as a go move (e.g : ab(father) = aleph-beth = (1,2)). All illegal moves are skipped (including suicide and ko)

Source code : https://ghostbin.com/paste/j7umc (I have changed the ruby-go lib to make it support 22x22 gobans)

On screen, Exodus beats Genesis.

SGF file : https://ghostbin.com/paste/ygmy3

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I suppose there are worse ways to spend your time.

I suppose there are better ways to spend your time, too, though.





This shit is pretty much why I come here.






>All illegal moves are skipped (including suicide and ko)

So you made a glorified RNG-System?

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