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The King is dead! Long live the King!

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Welcome to /monarchy/. I'm editing this top post in order to condense things. This is now the only sticky and a general meta thread. There has been no change in BO, I'm just trying to clean things up a bit more. I may delete out posts in this thread just because I would like keeping the >>1 post for tradition's sake.

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More specifically, if there is a new BO or volunteer of /monarchy/, it's announced here. If there is a change to the rules, it is promulgated here. This is also a thread I'll use to be a little less aloof and talk about minor and meta stuff: general feedback, complaining about troll threads, accepting submissions for flags, banners, moderation, and rules, etc.. A court, if you will.

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What kind of words do you want filtered, mi'lord?

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Can we get a Monarchist reading list?

I'll start with some:
Dante's De Monarchia
De Maistre's The Generative Principle of Political Constitutions
Filmer's Patriarcha
Kuehnelt-Leddihn's Liberty or Equality
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>Dante's De Monarchia

why did he suggest that humans strive for unity?

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Remember that women aren't fit to rule since by their very natures they are not truly members of any tribe. They are heavily selected by nature to smoothly transition from one tribe to another by marriage or warfare. White knighting them by allowing them to lead is foolish since women have no nation. They do not care where higher status men come from and they'll absorb the language and customs of wherever they happen to end up.

>muh blonde goddess

That blond-haired, blue eyed goddess who can do no wrong just will fuck the swarthy Mongol who burnt her village and slew all her Darwininan loser brothers.

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>falling for the commie propaganda



I'm pretty sure it's true.



>Contemporary stories from inside and outside of russia are communist

>implying she didn’t commit regicide

>implying she didn’t have multiple affairs

>implying she wasn’t a power hungry whore

>implying she wasn’t drunk on enlightenment philosophy

OP is right about women monarchs Saint Joan of arc was a general not a king, Saint Olga was a regent whose job was to watch over the throne until her son could assume power, Boudica was a genocidal maniac that slaughtered innocents and was btfo’d by a much smaller roman army because of her horrible leadership, et cetera et cetera.



Must be some cuckchanners/redditors who buy into Muh Enlightenment and Muh Merit.



>is a bugman.

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If republicanism was suddenly abolished in the US at this very moment, who do you think should ascend to the throne? My choice is for pic related (assuming Hoppe wouldn't be available)


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If he converted to catholicism then 100%



R E P U B L I C A N - A N T I - G A Y - C A R L I S M


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Isn't he an open borders faggot? My tentative first choice would be Llewellyn Rockwell. Hoppe is nice, but he's also not American–he should reign as king of Germany.


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>If republicanism was suddenly abolished in the US at this very moment, who do you think should ascend to the throne?

Obviously, a Jacobite succession for the United States and a crown for liberty. Fancy this: the Jacobite restoration, the annexation of Canada, and the North American Commonwealth; together an imperial throne and a Jacobite monarch of the North American land. This would make a separate line between England and America. Two separate paths.



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Are there any legit and active monarchist movements who want to establish absolute/feudal monarchies?

Preferably intending to replace the current cuck royal families, as they have bent their knees to the Jew, which is the absolute opposite of a strong monarch appointed by God.

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Well, that is good to hear.



Shouldn't Bulgaria's Tsar be there instead of Russia's?


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You can edit Wikipedia


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Action Française

Average age of people you see at conferences and events is actually quite young


I can say to you that the in Spain exists the Comunión Tradicionalista Carlista and D. Sixto Enrique de Borbón is a traditionalist, he's known as El Abanderado de la Tradición, there they defend a traditional model of monarchy.

In Brazil the Orleans e Bragança, are related to the TFP movement (Tradição Família e Propriedade): Tradition, Family and Property, they are conservatives.

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Contribute music, preferably monarchy-related.

Marches, songs, and contemporary music.

WebM, mp4, and Youtube.

Music inspires.

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Remember that the political animals are all breeds of ideological charlatan. If they subscribe to an ideology, they are a political animal; a political animal is somebody who chooses to be other than man; he chooses to become an partisan or idealist. They see everything through the lenses of their -ism and think highly of plain things. Political animals destroy each other, lavishing to take any mantle of authority. They are dogs in the mud, trampling over each other.

Don't become a political animal. Think of authority, not anarchism. Think of people for who they actually are, not what they "should" be or what party. Be loyal to someone and not an ideal. Don't aspire for power and control, but become somebody of action and authority. Find strength, not slander of opponents. Think of honor, not false chants of liberty; because liberty is honorable and before people are truly free they must become responsible first. Before anybody has any liberty, they must find duty, or else they seek to have liberty without any responsibility – that is a demagogue's tyranny.

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>3. And this order of things appears still more perfect when it is remembered that the aristocracy of birth and office, already softened by the right belonging to every family to enjoy the same distinctions in its turn, is stripped of everything possibly offensive to the lower orders by the universal supremacy of the monarch, before whom no citizen is more powerful than another; the man in the street, who is insignificant when he measures himself against a great lord, measures the lord against the sovereign, and the title of subject which brings both of them under the same power and the same justice is a kind of equality that stills the inevitable pangs of self-esteem….



*Note that Maistre comes from a social background where he rose to the aristocratic ranks from a lower status. Thereby, I believe Maistre prides himself on this merit.


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Politics will always divide a nation. Families divide under partisanship. People divide into factions. Kings no longer reign, but political partisans. Only a culture will unite a people towards their common identity. The name of partisan belongs to communists and the totalitarian crowd, who seek the total sum of the people's mind and consent. A monarchist partisan will always be a contradiction. Becoming a partisan is the mastery of being a political carnivore.


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A monarchist partisan is an inherent contradiction.

It just doesn't work. You don't go out like a political playboy and recruit people to become "royalists". This is not the royalist spirit. The partisan ideal is the opposite of the monarchist's aim to restore order.


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Monarchy and royal authority is all about the household.

No statemanship takes a solemn look towards order like a hereditary monarch, who is not a partisan and stolid statesman – bother even an idealist – but a sovereign of his nation. The royal family, juxtaposed to portraits of ideological statesman, is an attack on this partisanship and individualist statemanship. Monarchs who rule with their royal blood and their opposition to all partisan ideals.

The closest thing to a partisanship I admired was Action Francaise. As a predecessor to fascist movements, which took partisanship to the streets and outside of the political administration, it is understood that a movement is the only means of uniting a people, but never will partisanship unite; politics will always divide, and only a common culture could unify. People are not meant to be turned into voting blocs and be called anything like a native "royalist" who isn't a militant partisan. This belongs to the dangerous ideologues like the partisan Bolsheviks and other communist blocs. A monarchist should strive to not become a partisan; the only social co-ordination on a mass political scale I approve of – I call a movement, and a movement towards a goal and not a voting ballot, but an actual reform and action for the rest of society. A partisan is a political carnivore at the highest level and only adheres to political parties and ideologies, but no room for people.

When a partisan has no room for people, it is clearly understood. Examine their symbols; big stars and blank colors, with no coat of arms and no household behind their flag and nobody to truly represent them as a nation. Political carnivores wouldn't understand with their political compasses and partisan politics, that monarchy stands as an affront to this social engineering scheme and this anti-monarchical game called partisanship that seeks to turn ordinary people away from their roots, their profession, and their own livelihood – for the ideology of death. Political partisans are the enemy of all traditional authority and should not be tolerated.

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Could Europe have industrialised as quickly under the continued reign of Absolutism or did progress depend on the stronger individual rights achieved (directly and indirectly) by the forces of liberalism?

Britain did very well and shed itself of Absolutism fairly quickly– Northern Europe in general has done better than the South, and been relatively more free– however the issue is probably more nuanced than that. How do you think we find out the truth?

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>hello my highness can we build them railroads and dem factories???????

>nu sum republican in 150 years future says no

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His pic is shit, also

>transhumanism is about being cyborgs who are machines less advanced and independent than they are now



>Northern Europe in general has done better than the South

Anyone have that infographic/quote about how Austro-Hungary had an insanely large GDP?



You'd be quoting from the neverland…



Northern Europe was changing faster, because it was younger.

Systems couldn't keep up.

(also democracy has less problems with change, as it feels okay moving after the changes, where a monarchy has a stronger need to move before the changes)

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Do you have a devotion to any monarch that has been declared a saint? For me it's mainly st. Jadwiga of Poland but I also pray through the intercession of st. Louis IX of France

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I am part moroccan and part European . My mother baptized me as a child, and I have substantially grown in my Christian faith since then. I still have a strong love for my other country though, and I am partly related to the current ruling royal family in Morocco, so there is that.


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>no one mentions the quintessential monarch saint



Not until you came along.


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Saint Justinian the great


Saint Louis IX is great


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solid choice

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I'm a descendant of King Brian Boru of Ireland. I'm certain that half of Ireland would have to die before I was anywhere near a legitimate heir to the now defunct throne, but it's something I find fascinating about my ancestry. Are you guys descended from/related to any monarchs or royalty?

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>not irish




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Get outta here, CIAnigger.



It doesn’t matter to me if I have royal or peasant blood even if I was heir to an Empire I’d give it all up to live a life of complete service to the supreme Lord who all royals must answer to.



Based and breadpilled


I'm related to the house Oldenburg through a Holsatian line

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>me? i'd be an aristocrat, not a serf like 99% of the population

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Proletariat kids are the cruelest, most vile beings I've seen and met. Haven't seen a live jew, though. Population-wise Sub-Saharan Africans have more plebs / capita, and are poorly governed and lack unifying beliefs or their unifying beliefs are cancer. Example, anti-white racism.



Except they really aren't LARPers because they perfectly embody the leftist ideals of laziness, degeneration, and immorality.



>haven't seen a live jew, though.

Very meek and fragile, doesn’t seek open confrotation but tries to undermine you behind your back.


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They're Live-Action Roleplaying as revolutionaries, fighters, and the working class, of which they are none.



These posts are why I have no hope of this board. Jesus Christ..

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Gun ownership in the past monarchies was not uncommon and much more relaxed than monarchies are today. It is about time /monarchy/ discuss the gun control and gun laws in various monarchs from the past and present, and what your stance is on guns.

>the Good

Gun ownership in Imp. Russia was easier like the Wild West. Accordingly, no problems with gun ownership and very relaxed. Meanwhile, most of Europe back then was relaxed on gun control, as well as under the Qing for a while. This is a stark contrast to the steep rise in regulations and gun control you today. Nowadays you gotta have a loicense. However, Serbia has a high approval rate for a monarchical restoration and they are also a very gun-loving culture.

>The Bad

Japan has a long history of being strict on weapons. The Meji Era is a period that prohibited it strictly.

>The Ugly

It looks like gun control is going to get worse after the shooting in NZ.

<OP, why do you bring this up?

Because I know many monarchists are interested in this topic and likewise care about gun ownership and compulsory military service.

>on military compulsory service

Look up the Assize of Arms of 1181 and other statutes.

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>The monarch should retain control not through fear

The kind of fear I like is more like awe.

It is said that someone afraid of you poses a greatest danger than someone not. When I suggest fear as a means, I think of two ways of ruling. Fear and love. Reward and punishment. Mercy and wrath. A bit of diplomacy involves being friendly with a scary exterior to frighten others who consider these things.

At least, thinking of Machiavelli. I haven't went through The Prince and I only remember this from an excerpt. I don't know if it's better to be loved or feared. But I understand rewards and punishments is a subtle, but universal tool.

>That is what the monarch's rule should be–something so satisfactory and so in tune with day to day life that to even comprehend regicide or revolution is as foreign as the idea of smearing an apple over one's own face.

>That is what the monarch's rule should be–something so satisfactory and so in tune with day to day life that to even comprehend regicide or revolution is as foreign as the idea of smearing an apple over one's own face.

I guess it is ideal that a monarch is so loved he could walk out in public without fear of being attacked. This is the best goal, and it could probably sometimes work depending on where a monarch goes. King Christian X is a good example of this.


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On that note, being feared is not the same as being hated.

If everything is done so that people will hate you, a rule won't last very long. Fear is taking the opportunity to prevent revenge when it is still possible and within a means of personal control. But doing something that would cause hatred is giving everyone a good reason to hate you. Like stripping away a title for no reason and keeping it to yourself. There's justified cruelty and unjustified cruelty. I guess if someone tries to assassinate a monarch, it is better to have them hanged than to show mercy in most cases. Assassination is one of those good times to consider this.

However, there are instances where showing mercy has been used. King Charles II had no choice to show mercy to those who signed a death warrant on his father, but only if they showed loyalty to the Restoration. And others have spared conspirators who tried to assassinate them after the attempt. I don't know what advantage this has, other than appearing stronger.


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>It also helps to have a top notch spymaster to

Calm down on the EU4 there buddy.


Armed populaces tend to be an issue for invading armadas.


>The reason we don't have kings anymore is because monarchy is the least efficient way to rob and enslave a population.

This gave me pause.

>A nation is its people, not its government.

A nation is its ideas/culture/God/religion or whatever is the name for the amalgamation of those four words.


>more likely to stay isolated from social engineering the rest of the populace than a totalitarian regime that is trying to transform society on the merits of ideology rather than a tyrant's shrewd self-interest and mania

This is a good enough point that I want to put it in my list of pro-monarchist arguments.


>The kind of fear I like is more like awe.

Like I keep saying on this board, the ceremonial aspect of the monarch is important, dammit.



Amerimutts couldn't keep their cities from getting filled with Mud. Or prevent desegregation.



Keep the muttposting on /k/. That board's already gone to hell, I don't care as much if you ruin it more.

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This is a no-anime zone. Post high-quality aesthetic paintings and quotes of historical or fictitious kings and monarchists. Bonus points for realistic depictions of medieval (or fantasy) knights.

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>Game of Söy

Do not



There are a lot of Games of Thrones folks around the monarchist circles.




>Modern media

>Celebrity culture



It's usually the spergy, Machiavellian types who are really into the politics you see on television and LARPing as noble houses in roleplaying communities. They are amoral and usually carry the view for contractual regicide. Support aristocracy over monarchy. This is contrasted with the Tolkienesque LARPers who are pretty idealistic and romanticize monarchy.


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Promoting this reading list for monarchists.

This is for any newcomers and readers.

>what else may this thread be for?

Passing other infographs, but really it's just to promote the latest edition.

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Thoughts are a non-scarce good (my having your thought does not exclude you having the same thought), so socialism does make sense there.



As the other guy says, thoughts and intellectual property aren't scarce, and thus not legally property, so filesharing wouldn't be criminal in ancapistan.


Currently reading Bagehot's The English Constitution, what does /monarchy/ think about his views on constitutional monarchy?



the faggots would probably be sipping wine while reading Bertrand de Jovenel and Ernst Kantorowicz and agree with him. that's neo-feudalists for ya I gave a brief survey of its Wikipedia page and so far I couldn't say much about it. I could be wrong, but the House of Commons is already so powerful that it is a unicameral system and whatever prerogative and royal assent the monarch has is stripped away or the Crown is manhandled. Partisanship in any form is bad, and I suppose that's part of his concern. What could you tell us, anon?




nice leftist meme

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Which is it?

Pick your choice.




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Habsburg, because I'm biased I also don't know much about the Bourbons, lol



Habsburg, obviously. Bourbon brought enlig*nement to spain


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>Habsburg, obviously. Bourbon brought enlig*nement to spain

And brought autism out of Spain.



>Do I pick the house that fought the Mohammedans for centuries to keep them out of Europe as best they could

>Or the guys that allied with the Mohemmedans that were actively slave-raiding their coast at the time, endangering the entirety of western civilization

Hard question.

I'm still gonna go with Hohenstaufen though. The Habsburgs accepted Papal authority over the throne, but only God stands above the Emperor.

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