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Do you have the audiobook?

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Direct all hotpocket related inquiries here.

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Which country are you from?

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>How can you call yourselves leftist politically incorrect?

/leftypol/ posters are allowed to voice opinions that offend liberals, SJWs, and so on. All sects on the left are allowed to post on /leftypol/, leading to plenty of fighting and shitflinging between leftists, which other forums might ban. However, this was only a minor consideration in the naming of /leftypol/. Since the concept is simply a leftist version of /pol/, the entire name of /pol/ was retained.

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>what do the fascists and their enablers not want me to do?

have a sense of purpose and meaning

be able to convey this to others

it is not a coincidence that the view in the academy that the right misrecognizes as cultural Marxism is rabidly opposed to the teleological view of history Marxism generates

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ITT: movies, anime, music, feels, e-celebs, internet drama, fetishes, shitposting, etc.

This is a voluntary thread that users can choose to post in, if… I forgot the rest of whatever the old OP was. Honestly, I just wanted to bring this old thread back.

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>I mentioned other things that caused excess deaths. Quora doesn't even factor in this simple statement. And even if it did, it doesn't address all the causes I cited.

Oh my fucking god you moron you really didn't read SHIT.

LITERALLY EVERY FUCKING POINT you made was addressed in that quora post you imbecile.

Collectivization? Check

GULAG prisoners and the Purges? Check

What else do you want? Katyn perhaps? Then again if you talk about the collectivization in terms of "victims" that clearly means you at least somewhat buy into the holodomeme so that's not surprising

>You'll have to forgive me if I don't consider that post particularly reliable either.

I'm not forgiving shit, I provided Furr's little essay with cited sources on the matter, and if you were unconvinced you could do some more research you spoon-fed fagGET

>Furr just plain is a faulty historian in fact he's not a historian by trade at all

1) That doesn't mean he can't do research. That's just a pathetic attempt at appealing to authority, not to mention that Along with Furr, what about Zemskov, Getty and Naumov who ARE undeniable historians of the matter?

2) Furr has the credentials of a historian. Perhaps not that of soviet history, but since when do YOU have a credential in soviet history? Or for that matter 90% of anti-stalinists. Grover Furr's work has been peer reviewed in Russian and Western circles, he worked with original documents and translated them himself by learning Russian and Ukrainian. So your accusation is meaningless.

>anecdotal evidence

When it's anti-stalin, it matters, when it isn't, Fuck DAT!

>their application was very selective

Not as selective as you attempt to portray so fallaciously.

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That country is beyond fucked at this point. I actually kind of hope the ultra nationalists rise again, just to shake things up a little.



That tag list on Steam is a spell curse.


>Pixel Graphics


>Procedural Generation

>Early Access


How well is it selling?


>commissar for URSAL



>And it's always Just So Relatable and Cool.

And it always offends people, which gives them even more publicity.


That's some psychopath shit right there.

Incidentally, it reminded me of a couple of recent studies which claimed that wearing bras actually contributes to sagging, the rationale being that the support tissue . Also so many women use a bad fit that they end up deforming their tits.



Man, it's true . . . the left really can't meme



About 850 000 prior to full release on August 7th this year. SteamSpy provides a unhelpful estimate of between one and two million owners.

Alright, I guess.

There was also a controversy recently around but not about the game, when a IGN editor plagiarized their review from a medium-small youtube channel. People have been furiously comparing the near-identical praise side by side, which has surely given the game additional publicity recently.


Consult the dead Stefán Karl about it, it's his handiwork as far as I can tell. You should take a nap, old-timer, and get up with the times once you awaken.

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OC Thread 3.0

I suppose we should establish a new thread dedicated to /leftypol/ original content.

Feel free to post original content you've made, or OC someone else recently made which you would like to share.

Or, collaborate on improving content within this thread.

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>anarchists won't stop proving over and over that they are merely pedophiles who fetishize anime children


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This is more about Wahhabis rather than ordinary Sunnis.



>when leninhatposter doesn't live in china

oh sure it's super socialist



also literally only posting headlines & no content



if humanity finds a way to get off of earth, earthchan will be forever happy

good thing we will get space boosters and shit when we kill whitey

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Who else thinks that identity politics, anti-oppression ideology, social justice warriors, are just a psy-op to turn the masses against eachother, when in fact the masses should be organizing together against the 1% ?

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>believing that billionaires and millionaires deserve any of their wealth.

Neck yourself please



your low value meme isnt an argument brainlet


so what exact kind of merit system do you have in mind ? How do people deserve what is valued in a society ? Why don't you try sharing your unrealistic views first before attacking others, so everyone can kill you, but i know youre a pussy that doesnt want to face the wrath of the masses for your idiotic views, hence the statement you made as the jackass moron you are



>I am 15 years old



I just want to point out that basically ALL politics is a "psyop", as in they are all distracting from the destruction of Capitalism. Literally, the only politics that matter are ones that strengthen the proletariat to abolish Capitalism. Anything that promotes conflict between the people is an enemy of any Communist.


identity politics needs to be filtered to "just politics"

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Does anyone else feel extreme anger when they hear this fucking guy? I wish i could murder him so that no one would be able to hear him again

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who cares? there are better polcows now like Cernovich, Shapiro, and Daou to laugh at,



This actually

Wierd Mike is way better than saecuck ever was


I particularly hate right wingers who link they’re incredibly smart while actually being total morons. Sargon is maybe the stupidest of these types, it’s also why i fucking hate Shapiro.



Sargon claims to be a liberal. Well, technically he claims to be a liberalist. I was so angry the time he denounced /leftypol/ as "a bunch of degenerate faggots."



this guy is so wrong lmao

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What's next after Trump goes to jail?

>Michael Cohen pleads guilty to 8 counts

>From CNN's Mark Morales

>Michael Cohen pleaded guilty today to eight counts.

>In a plea deal, he said that "in coordination and at the direction of a candidate for federal office" he kept information that would have been harmful to the candidate and the campaign from becoming public.

>A sentencing date is set for December.



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>I mean it's a literal dictatorship no different from the USSR in its heyday

How the fuck is the US an imperialist capitalist country similar to the socialist USSR could you explain further?





>Paul Ryan

Fucking kill me right now



Every piece of information in 2016 established that Trump would loose while Democrats win back the House. It didn't happen. See:


tl;dr Trump won all the general elections because his opposition was unable to concentrate resources on a single election, whereas Trump's strategy is not election-specfic. This is more of a matter of microtargeting vs broadcast, and Trump is demonstrating that the latter works much better outside of special elections.


>I think the Dems will take the House this cycle and take the Senate in 2020, which will be an unfavorable map for Republicans.

They'll maybe take the Senate but the House is probably safe. For Dems to take the Senate they must first ensure their existing candidates do not loose, in particular Hietkamp and Manchin are on the edge especially as the DNC makes their job much harder by focusing on gun control (which is not an issue that flies in ND or WV). Meanwhile they have to flip seats in Arizona, Texas and Florida.

All of this wouldn't be notable if it wasn't for Republicans having solid control of the midwest. Right now WI, MI, OH and PA are all expected to lean slightly Republican while MN is a tossup. This is bad news for Democrats and is why they are still in extremely hot water, a huge segment of their base has switched parties and they have no clear way of winning them back. In fact the DNC strategy here is to completely forget about these people and try and flip AZ, TX and FL through hispanic turnout. Which is why they're probably not going to get anywhere, because even if they are successful they've at best traded one group of states for anoPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



Not him but my take:

USSR = one party communist state

USA = one party Republican state

America's history from 1865-1912 (the gilded age) is significant here, as the GOP ran the US without any opposition until Democrats had embraced Labor and got northern workers voting for them, creating a coalition big enough to propel Wilson into the Presidency on an anti-war platform (which was shortly discarded after the Zimmerman Telegram, but I digress).

For Democrats, this is the foundation of their modern coalition. If they cannot win over northern workers or the South they won't be a national party.



I think you're thinking of the midterms like it's a national, general election. Dynamics are much different and the candidates that do best are the ones who most successfully localize with bread and butter issues and "who will represent you in Congress." The GOP running on immigration (a national issue) which plays well to a general election audience but not a midterm one.

Like I said I'm in Texas, and while I expect Cruz to win, Beto O'Rourke is doing the best job I've ever seen a Democrat do in a statewide race in my life. But most of that is just his own personal charisma and his emphasis on "Texas Texas Texas" all the time. Like, 'Texan patriotism' which is a hard thing to explain. He's also running a more liberal campaign than most Democrats tend to do here, which runs contrary to conventional wisdom, and plowing tremendous amounts of money into Facebook ads (his campaign is also heavily livestreamed). Feels very Obama faux-populist.

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Moderately new to leftism, can anyone give a rundown/advice on the state of the left and the left wing parties in Australia?

Currently Ive only really noticed two groups in my city - Socialist Alliances and Socialist Alternative (The Communist Party seems to be mainly a LARP/club for boomers) both mainly from their newspaper sellers though the latter also seems to have the only large scale conferences.

Outside of Refugees/immigration and Adani what are some of the key struggles/issues to focus on?

Also /aus/ general

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Fuckin' Potadahead.


Is the Libspill going to lead to labor win next election? I think so. I hope we have a labor gov when the next crash hits so people lose illusions in labor following their inevitable austerity program.


Fraser Anning is right. We need to shut down immigration and deport unsolvable elements. Only then can we achieve true socialism; Not Socialism.



>Only true socialism, not socialism

What did the /pol/yp mean by that?


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I think the biggest hindrance to socialism in Australia is the lack of class consciousness. Unions membership is very low now (see ABS link). There is both a general misdirection with upper-lower-middle class identity bullshit and egalitarianism. That on one hand is useful for understanding some general socioeconomic phenomenon on a graph of relative population inequality, like health, education and housing and so on. If you are on the dole then you're not going to afford a trip to the dentist.

And on the other hand there is a the cultural identity and dogmatic attachment of egalitarianism.

>every cunt has a fair go m8

>a fair crack of the whip

This egalitarianism rhetoric can be seen as early as Robert Menzies and all the way up to Turnbull or Dutton - liberal, neoliberal / conservative austerity policy that has continued to leak down the generations. Egalitarianism is the dominant discourse amongst

australian identity, especially for boomers. In america the same rhetoric exist its just more, how can I say… American

>"America was once called the Land of Milk and Honey. It was so named for the prosperity and promise associated with the opportunity that was once available to anyone who, when willing to work, could acquire a piece of the American Dream."

>>2592948 (op)

the internet has superseded the need for a weekly meet-up, membership fees and group readings of das kapitel. and Australia missed out by not having the structure of a strong socialist party before these changes. what we may see in the future is fringe parties gaining traction or the labour party shifting 'with the times' with regards to mimicking america and alexandria ocasio-cortez demsoc discourse or possibly a UK corbyn follow. but somehow i doubt we will shift because of the dprk. Or a push in the opposite direction of the overton window in regards to recent Liberal party policy that is typical austerity for the working class and tax cut for corporations. Its not worth trying to prPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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Founder of Wikipedia Jimmy Wales publicly denounces Jeremy Corbyn and implies he's an "anti-semite"


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>annihilate them

Even jesus won't forgive you.



Zionists are fascists and fascists are demonic. There is nothing wrong with eliminating them.



>Jeremy Corbyn silent

I agree he should be throwing a huge party.



Your lack of reason is hilarious and ironic. The fact that there are "communists" here right now that do not believe the proletariat can be radical is astounding. I will say it here and I will say it forever, the proletariat are the revolutionary class and they WILL be the ones who will destroy exploitation. Giant media bourgs can meme everyone into thinking the masses are ignorant, but everyone wants the truth, and when they get it they run with it. The truth will set everyone free whether or not you believe they can handle it.



>people take this joke post seriously

the absolute state of leftypol

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someone told me that Mao self-criticized, but I haven't been able to find where he did this. Does anyone have a source of Mao self-criticizing?

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The Pope goes to confession. It doesn't really mean anything. Maoists are retards who think their authoritarian cult shit is okay so long as the leadership do the stupid performative rituals too.



self-crit wasn't invented by Mao dumb dumb, it's just basic Marxist practice. How can you be scientific revolutionaries if you don't admit your fuckups?



didn't he stay in power until his death?




>Self-criticism in psychology is typically studied and discussed as a negative personality trait in which a person has a disrupted self-identity. The opposite of self-criticism would be someone who has a coherent, comprehensive, and generally positive self-identity. Self-criticism is often associated with major depressive disorder. Some theorists define self-criticism as a mark of a certain type of depression (introjective depression), and in general people with depression tend to be more self critical than those without depression. People with depression are typically higher on self-criticism than people without depression, and even after depressive episodes they will continue to display self-critical personalities.



Well Jimmy Wales is a zionist, so tell me why I should buy what wikipedia has to say about self-crit?

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I am thinking perhaps we should have a thread dedicated to discussing ex-Warsaw Pact countries. It is often shamed of as a very reactionary place, but reality is quite different. Especially with brexit, trump, austerity, inflation and many other problems, I see a lot of revolutionary potential here. The fact that Czech republic of all the places in the world have a relatively strong communist presence is very good sign.

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ok, never mind, sorry and thanks for sharing the video.



I didn't know that about the czech republic. Sadly it seems most Eastern European countries either don't even have a communist party anymore or a completely marginalized one. How's things in Russia?


Yeah it would probably have to be the DDR.

Earlier this year I was in the former DDR (Leipzig) for a few days and in the first cafe we visited, they had a portrait of Honecker on the wall. Pretty cool that some kind of nostalgy for those years still persists.








>like the USSR did in 56

[citation needed]

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>thousands of churches, temples, etc.

That's an exageration. Lenin insisted on preserving stuff.


I'm okay with melting all statues, but not to use them for anything really useful. Instead i'd like to make a gigantic statue of Lenin. But not the entire body, just the head. A gigantic head of Lenin at the heart of US politics, Washington.


boons to society



The toppling of these shitty statues?

>boon [boon]


>1. something to be thankful for; blessing; benefit.

>2. something that is asked; a favor sought.

Why, yes.



Absolute shit take for any self respecting commie

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>"Frank said the mathematical models for the future of the planet have three trajectories. One is a massive die-off of perhaps 70 percent of the human population and then an uneasy stabilization. The second is complete collapse and extinction. The third is a dramatic reconfiguration of human society to protect the biosphere and make it more diverse and productive not for human beings but for the health of the planet. This would include halting our consumption of fossil fuels, converting to a plant-based diet and dismantling the animal agriculture industry as well as greening deserts and restoring rainforests."

Maybe I'm being too cynical, but I don't have hope that is going to happen.

We're pretty much already living in the end times, at this point. It's going to take a major earth-shattering disaster before climate change is taken seriously, and by then it will be too late.


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West has been on steady decline from 1914 forwards so its eventual collapse should be surprise to nobody.


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Based on what analysis? Western countries are one of few places on this planet with naturally declining populations and consistent agricultural surpluses thanks to our generous farming subsidies, not to mention untapped energy reserves in NA in Canada and in Europe regarding Russia.



> Capitalists won't stop using fossil fuels until they become so scarce that they are unprofitable,

The only way for them to be unprofitable is for other alternative resources to outcompete them

>and those resources could run out within 15 years.

We may have hit peak, but we aren't running out of fossil fuels anytime soon.

>The scarcity of oil in particular will be the biggest blow to the capitalist economy, because it's not just used as a fuel. It's also used to make many incredible materials and products, for instance tyres and plastic

That's true, but fossil fuels are not the only source of oil, it's just the cheapest right now. It will send prices up, but they can be replaced. It's bad, but not cataclysmic.

>Even if we switch to more sustainable methods of energy generation, we will not be able to maintain them.

Pretty fatalistic, if shit goes south it could require drastic meassures, like a one child policy, but complete societal collapse seems less likely than a strong state emerging.


Well you better hope 99% of people died in the collapse, or deer will go extinct pretty quick, but, yes I agree, even if everything else goes wrong there will always be some an-prim canibal cult that survives and eventually repopulate and start the shit show anew.



This climate change denial is gay as fuck. Sure the planet can deal with climate change, so long as it happens over MILLIONS OF YEARS. 4°C in 100 years will fuck shit up beyond belief, the ecological devastation is what will kill humans, not the temperature itself you fucking moron.



If you honestly do not believe the proletariat are capable of stopping the Earth's destruction than I honestly have no idea why you are here. It is an inately hopeful position requiring positive belief. Always bet on history.

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In this thread, talk about Leon ⛏️rotsky, the historical ⛏️rotskyist movement, and ⛏️rotskyism today?

Question to start the thread: who's your favorite ⛏️rotskyist leader? For me, it's Nicolás Maduro.

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>that tweet



One of Britain's ⛏️rotskyist leaders, Alan Woods, was supposedly a good friend of Hugo Chavez. Today Woods is pretty critical of Venezuela and claims they've only achieved "half a revolution."



I wonder if Terry Eagleton is a T.rotskyist? Why Marx was Right is a pretty good read but the way he seems to deny anything about the USSR was "real socialism", and the passages where he praises T.rotsky made me wonder about that.

I hope this wordfilter gets deleted btw, it's cancer. BO should stop creating even more division than she already has. I'm not even a t.rot but if Hoxhaists and the like are accepted as "real" socialists, t.rots should too.


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Proven great man.


Guy who didnt like Stalin.

Case closed.

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