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Sounds like a lynch mob on a massive scale.




>eyes and ears

>report on counter-revolutionary activity


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SDF captured new land from ISIS




Can you guys keep the liberalism to a minimum in this thread? It's bad optics.



once when I explained socialism to a dude he called it mob rule


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>Frantic IS defense in Hajin means someone important is there

>Probably Baghdadi

>mfw SDF can show him off to the world on Twitter

Feels good, man



Or he was publicly executed in Raqqa.



not having the balls to critizice rolex "socialism" or tankies is just as bad as "liberalism"

sorry man but power to the people should mean power to the people not power to the leaders of the people.



The DFNS doesn't have capital punishment, anon. Which is astounding considering they hold some of the worst scum on earth who destroyed their homes and killed their families



Your thinking of China, not Cuba.



And a really low prison population too. Literally the only people in prison are Da'esh members.



Very low domestic prison population but a very high concentration of IS prisoners, especially foreigners since Europe doesn't want to take responsibility for them. That coupled with the internally displaced refugees is causing a but of a problem around Ayna Issa but otherwise it's under control.


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The PKK Executive Committee condemns the massacre in Gaza.

"Israel has opened fire on demonstrators in Gaza killing scores of Palestinians. We strongly condemn the Gaza massacre and we offer our sincere condolences to the families of the martyrs and the Palestinian people"



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Why are you supporting capitalism?



Kinda sad, considering most Palestinians supported Sadam when he was gassing the Kurds.



Russia is a Capitalist Porky Oligarcy too. I prefer Russia to USA tho but I don't support either of them.


Look man MLs had their opportunity, their type of "socialism" failed. It's not the correct method years have passed & workers still don't own the means of production it means your autocracy was a failure & it didn't even served the interest of the people only the ones of the party. This applies to Cuba. Sure nice core ideal, I agree with it but it's a fucking failure. Needs a total reform but the reform must come from the inside not from foreigners with Capitalist interests.


btw for those who dont know most of the cancer happening in the Middle-East the war for oil is because of: USA (obviously), Israel (the current ruling politicians are basically neo-cons but jewish), Saudi Arabia (this shit is still a Monarchy & it shouldn't exist) & t*rkey.



Palestinians and Kurds right now re in a very, very, very similar situation. Zionists fuck off. Most Palistians support the Kurds.


>Look man MLs had their opportunity, their type of "socialism" failed.

Cuba right now is reforming into cybernetic socialism. And even if it’s M-L it can still be used as a base to increase socialist support in Latin America and Burgerland.


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So what should his punishment be?


tldr me

rojava good or bad ?





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Assad will be the one to remove ISIS, not co-operate with them the Tankies said.



He was transferred to Erbil no doubt because Iraq still has the death penalty




Nevermind lol it wasn't the spox


It was a high ranking official "with a similar name."




Are those daesh fighters also going to Jarabulus or Efrin like the Jaish Al Islam, Rahman Corps, and the Homs rebels? I cannot imagine them being transported to Idlib, afaik Hayat Tahrir Sham and Jahbat Tahrir Suriya are both opposed to daesh.

The international community has to intervene if these daesh fighters are transported to t*rkish held areas to reform and join TFSA. The only other places they could be evacuated to is the daesh pockets in DEZ and the Golan


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My god, he did it. There transporting ISIS to TFSA areas to fight the Kurds.



nm There going to the Jordanian border area.



proof that assad and isis are allies



Watching BBC Sherlock



See Venezuela what happens, if you let certain Journos go free.


Make no mistakes, they work for corporations and thus have their own business interests in mind. They were vital in spreading misinformation during the 2004 coup and you have absolutely no guarantees they are not doing it now.




They're being transported to the desert west of the Euphrates where ISIS still holds territory despite Assad saying otherwise

Interesting to note that when it happened in Raqqa, the SDF were criticized by the government for "helping ISIS" but when the SAA basically used ISIS as a player in the Ildib Offensive or the transportation from the Lebanon border and now this, they're quiet.



I understand that, anon. I'm saying that arbitrary arrest and detention is simply that, arbitrary. Is spreading misinformation a crime worthy of incarceration to you?



Now that would be far too cruel.


did someone here save'd the brief tutorial of how to join the YPG?

i remember some member of them posting it in the other board


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Give this site a read; http://ypg-international.org/support-ypg-in-rojava/

You will need to send them an encrypted email to ypgrevolution@protonmail.com through the protonmail service and they will advise you from there. Also take a look at what you will need to prepare before you go; https://archive.is/DFPnc

I did have a direct email to the IFB but their FB page is gone and I also had the transcript of all the questions they ask you when you email them. But don't worry, the questions are mostly to check that you are mentally sane and to make sure you won't throw battery acid on anyone.

If you don't want to fight and you are trained in a skilled profession; take a look at pic.



I was looking for this pic, it's important to tell anyone willing to go over there about the non combatant roles too.



>If you don't want to fight and you are trained in a skilled profession; take a look at pic

what if i want to be a teacher and a soldier?

i want to go to rojava when i finish my studies



i remember that in the post i was asking fore the anon talk'd about a CV and the mental-test



no offence but if you're not a trained soldier then you're probably going to be just a liability



They ned more teachers than solders to be honest. Go after you finished your degree and after you learned either Kurdish or Arabic. Kurdish being an Indo-Europen language and written in Latin Script is probably easier to learn.



The IFB and YPGI are actively recruiting for unskilled manpower. Have in mind that nobody in the IFB are former professional soldiers (they even admit that they were mostly unskilled labourers before Rojava) and were put on the front line to fight.



so you are just cannon fodder?


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>just cannon fodder



i dont understand what you are trying to comunicate my comrade

i dont say it as something bad, i have no problem to be cannon fodder to support a revolution. i just want to know what waits me there



Not really, when I said that they were "actively recruiting for unskilled manpower" I meant that they are interested in ideologically convicted people with sane minds. The YPG have unfortunately had a history of recruiting batshit insane ex-military folks and have probably realised that more politically aware people are less likely to be bloodthirsty adventurers.

But to answer your question more directly; no, you are not going to be called to human wave charge into t*rkey. Most IFB accounts note how most of the time you are sitting around in a outpost guarding a sector of a front and when the time comes your tabur will likely be selected to join in an offence. I can not think of any example of people being used as cannon fodder by the SDF.



thanks for your answer

are you currently in the IFB?

can i communicate to my family and folks? it could be a letter or a phone call or stuff like that


>had a history of recruiting batshit insane ex-military folks and have probably realised that more politically aware people are less likely to be bloodthirsty adventurers.

i really want to read about those guys. i knew about the foot-fruit dude, but those sounds more interesting



>can i communicate to my family and folks? it could be a letter or a phone call or stuff like that

Not a YPG or SDF official, but in a documentary about Rojava I saw one western volunteer holding here cellphone so as long as there’s cell service yes.



>are you currently in the IFB?

No, I just have a hobby in researching the group. I did consider joining a few years ago.

>can i communicate to my family and folks? it could be a letter or a phone call or stuff like that

Phone service is available as far as I am aware. I don't know what the charges are going to be like though. Internet is available but not always. That relies on how much time you spend at the front, access to the internet and electricity but you will definitely have access to the internet to an extent.

>i really want to read about those guys

I honestly don't have any links I can give you. I read most of the rumours of reddit and a few years ago, but I never really use the site so I have no idea were to find the quotes. I remember PissPig mentioning something on twitter about a nutjob getting kicked out. There was a medical team that got kicked out for having a retarded spergout with another ex-military tabur. I wish I could remember more stories but they are mostly just rumours I found on reddit a few years ago.



Actually, I remember one story of an American volunteer shooting at friendlies not that long ago. I think he got kicked out.

There also was a volunteer who left after complaining about how the YPG were racist against Arabs and then went and shilled for the far-right AfD online. He was an absolute loon.

And there is the famous case of the American ex-military volunteer who left Syria after finding out that the YPG were "a bunch of damn Reds".




You get an monthly allowance that just about covers a sim card and cell service is you are a part of a Cizre tabur



>I did consider joining a few years ago

Tfw one day youre actually going to

There was also a french volunteer who described another volunteer being mean to a puppy in his interview with Lundi Matin. Google Translate does a decent job. Theres six episodes of the interview I think. Heres the first one


>There also was a volunteer who left after complaining about how the YPG were racist against Arabs and then went and shilled for the far-right AfD online.

I got the story on this. He was a part of TMU going under the handle patkasper on reddit. He was accused of being a liar who stole sedatives by an english speaking HPG fighter who went under the handle pkk1987 on reddit before deleting his accounts - he had a lot of information about Rojava, I remember speaking with him about a year ago.

Here are some links.






God no


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>they already did

<North Syria still occupied with US bases

<US still sending Aid to Rojava

<US increasing said Aid to Rojava

<"S...See? Were not puppets of America!"



>"Dont worry those US bases are just Temporary

<*2 years later*

>"Dont worry those US bases are just Temporary

<*2 years later*

>"Dont worry those US bases are just Temporary

<*2 years later*

>"Dont worry those US bases are just Temporary

<*2 years later*

>"Dont worry those US bases are just Temporary

<*2 years later*

>"Dont worry those US bases are just Temporary

<*2 years later*

>"Dont worry those US bases are just Temporary

<*2 years later*



What have these bases done other than strike ISIS. Absolutely jack shit. It’s no longer the cold war. Stop basing geopolitical analysis off of “muh burgers.”



>What have these bases done other than strike ISIS

A. ISIS No longer even exists as a viable force

B. These bases serve as a Deterrent to the SAA and TAF to attack Rojava thus giving the US effective control over the Rojava



alright, this is not the cold war and i support YPG, but justifying USA bases all over the world is retarded AF




You have to go back



ISIS is putting up the strongest resistance since Raqqa right now in Hajin. Also sleeper cells are a huge problem: in the triangle from Markadah to al-Busayra to al-Saad, a cerfew is in place and YAT anti-terrorist forces are currently active in fighting them. All DMC and SDF forces have to fall back to bases at night especially around al-Busayra due to localized attacks. ISIS isn't strong, but it's a pain in the ass


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>You have to go back

Not an argument lad



>thus giving the US effective control over the Rojava

Wrong. If the US were to abandon these bases they’d be taken over by the SDF. Also a minority members of the American Military stationed in Rojava support Communalist ideology. So they’d have enough people to keep one or two bases staffed, and that’s all they need.


>but justifying USA bases all over the world is retarded AF

Most US bases are imperialist and need to be destroyed, but the bases in Rojava aid the establishment of socialism so those ones are a ok.



>beliving that USA have good intentions with any revolution where there isn't burguesy



<Manbij, Southern Afrin still jointly-controlled by SAA/YPG bases

<Still militarily supported by Iraq

<Syrian Gov still sending aid to Rojava

>Rojava are totally imperialist puppets of America despite having a completely independent political system.

I am still yet to see one piece of evidence that Rojava is politically controlled by the US.



The American Government is doing this under pressure of voters to destroy ISIS, however just thinking America = Bad without any material analysis or nuance is undilectical.



thank you, based Rojava anon



>Wrong. If the US were to abandon these bases they’d be taken over by the SDF.

Which has no Airforce

>Also a minority members of the American Military stationed in Rojava support Communalist ideology. So they’d have enough people to keep one or two bases staffed, and that’s all they need.

Citation absolutely fucking needed

And even if so the US gov would just declare them deserters and court marshall them

>Most US bases are imperialist and need to be destroyed, but the bases in Rojava aid the establishment of socialism so those ones are a ok.

<"These bases are being used to assist in Imperialism and Destabilization against a Nation but their helping the Libsuc meme project i like so its ok :)"



Whether or not they have an airforce is irrelevant. Whatever becomes of the bases after the US leaves is purely speculation at this point. The US so far has not shown any political control over the area. There are no American corporations buying up assets in Rojava, nor are there really any economic or political ties beyond military cooperation at this point. I made this point in another thread, but it's worth noting that the government of Syria supported the creation of the YPG as a bulwark against ISIS once they left the area.



>Citation absolutely fucking needed

If there’s people willing to express communist views openly there must be many, many more who secretly hold them as well as acceptance or secret support from officers, who could fire communist members of the armed forces before they even spoke about it. These officers know how to detect /ourguys/



>but their helping the Libsoc meme project i like so its ok

Yes because that “libsoc meme project” is the most successful worker’s revolution in this century. More successful than the Maoist clusterfuck that is Nepal. Leninism died in 1991. It’s time for the socialist movement to move on.


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Wtf is happing. Not that I’m complaining t*rkish collaborators are getting what they deserve.



I'd assume rebel groups jockeying for power.



>Yes because that “libsoc meme project” is the most successful worker’s revolution in this century.

It's been no more successful than just about every other "anarchist" movement ever. Once the war stops they are going to be eliminated by whoever ends up in control.



I'd argue the EZLN has been more successful in its own way, but the DFSNS is certainly the best thing to happen in the Mideast for the better part of a century.



>Once the war stops they are going to be eliminated by whoever ends up in control

wouldn't that be before the war stops


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>An Article About a single Cadet who ended up drooping out after a tour in Afghanistan Proves that US troops in north Syria Are ready to defect and Help your favorite Libsuc project

Do…Do you even fucking read the shit you post?



>Leninism died in 1991.

Stopped Reading

Republicanism Died in 1804 time to move on ehh?



>Republics don't exist

Wow didn't know I was speaking to an actual black hole brain




<A republic

>North Africa

<One of them is a literally a absolute monarchy

Voluntary Euthanasia exists for people like you



Oh and I know this is shitpost btw



>Australia (The continent) is home to one of the worlds last republics

Where May I ask does this republic exist in Australia?


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The Ildib infighting is actually hilarious. I stopped paying attention but apparently there's a group of psuedo jihadists called the Syrian Liberation Front backed by t*rkey and then HTS/Nusra. Also ISIS sleeper cells and the newest member of al-Queda in Syria but I forget their name. There have been so many assassinations and battles, the t*rks had to put in those "observation posts" to keep Assad from ending the war in a month. Basically it's al-Bab/Afrin on fucking steroids, the t*rks really are the most incompetent player in all of this



They won’t be. The YPG is an effective fighting force. And there armed with very advance weapons as well.



Republicanism is no longer a revolutionary movement outside of the Persian Gulf.


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Pretty sure the t*rks don’t have anything against the White Helmets.


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We’re fucked. WW3 soon.



We have must have had more than a dozen "WW3 soon" moments throughout the course of this conflict. I doubt this will be the time



Nothing left for Assad to do. The North locked down by t*rkey, The East by America, and Israel was never going to allow an offensive to take back the south. Gonna have to go to Geneva.



>erdogan freedom'd by based CIAsteps down amid scandal

What are the chances of this happening? Would the likely alternatives be any better?



If the CIA were to remove Erdogan It’d’ve of happened in the 2016 t*rkish Coup. Now Erdogan has absolute power over t*rkey.



>ceasefire in Southern Syria

Isn't this the same ceasefire agreed by Russia as well as the US?


You're very welcome.



Part of a documentary on people fighting ISIS in Syria. Sorry for the shitty website, couldn't find an easy way to download.



>ww3 over a ceasefire which everyone agreed to

wow your analysis is like /pol tier


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Jihadists BTFO.



That's fair. The YPG claims responsibility of the attacks they commit while it could also be more infighting. When different jihadist groups attack each other they don't claim responsibility




Regardless of if it’s the YPG or infighting Jihadists are getting BTFOed and that’s what matters.


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I herd u liek bookz


For anyone who liked cuckchan's literature board before /pol/yps destroyed any meaningful discussion.


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Why does Erdogan think he gains from lying?


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Jihadists keep failing, unforntualy civilians are getting harmed by there infighting.



Rattling his saber. Gotta stir up support at home.


I was going to share the videos from Twitter but it was just sad. The guy in the truck was apparently just a kid. As much as the infighting is fun to watch, civilians still die.



I know that is not live map. What website is it?





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The situation in Der ez Zor, in case you wondered why the offensive is taking forever. However, today it just kicked off again.



More proof that Tribal Confederacies need to be eliminated.


what's rojava gang's thoughts on israel's support and this essentially being an israel 2.0 ethnostate


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The Democratic Federation of Northern Syria is anything but an ethnostate. It's the most diverse coalition in the middle East: Arabs make a majority of both civilian and military councils, t*rkmens and Circassians have representation in minority assemblies, and the co-president is a Christian Syriac. It's also not a state, it's a non-state solution focusing on grassroots democracy, civil councils, workers co-ops, and agricultural communes. All of which are already in place.

As for Israel's support, it's purely vocal and doesn't mean shit; no material aid, no political shows of solidarity. Just a few mentions and tweets because the SDF doesn't actively lob misses at IDF positions.


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>israel's support

>being an israel 2.0 ethnostate

Here is your (you)


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>SDF says ready to send a delegation to "test the waters" to see whether Assad's government is ready to accept an autonomous Kurdish area in the northeast.


I am beyond hyped.


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wtf is this website



omg its virus


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Fuck yeah



use ad blocker dude



>Libsuc meme project

Sad to see that /leftypol/ has reached a level of alienation where they don't even have any sympathy for the most succesful revolutionary movement in the world anymore.


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SDF made new gains against ISIS


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/leftpol/ what do these things mean?



good if I were fighting for YPG I would like it to be in ISIS fronts.

ISIS are weak religious fanatics. SDF for me is just not USA-NATO which is good & YPG-J are our boys & girls. I hope the Kurds are prosperous.



Borderwall is just a method of undermining smuggling. They have a borderwall in Hatay and in a few parts of the border in northern Syria.

I won't mourn that jash kurds death. What's more sad than his death is the fact that he held arms for t*rkey against his own people.


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Just a few kilometers to dashisha


The assassination is very interesting:

Ahmed Misto was a commander of the Sham Battalion (Turkish "FSA") and a Kurd. He was killed by a group who call themselves the "Hawks of Afrin." A day after he was killed, they released the second pic, saying they operate in Afrin against the t*rks and their proxies.

Thing is, Ahmed Misto was the only commander who was outspokenly against the looting of civilians and the ethnic cleansing of Afrin canton. Plus the YPG is already engaged in their own guerilla campaign. Idk, the whole thing is fishy



A waste of resources and money from a nato member. Typical.


There is so much shitty news about colonisation and the like coming out of Afrin it's hard to keep track. I tried to make a list accounting killings, kidnappings, settled houses etc but lot track. It's insane.

The UN is busy getting pissed off at Damascus for potential violations (ie shit that hasn't even happened) and pays no attention to the reports coming from Afrin. Literally Ottoman-themed Zionism and nobody cares.


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It's an inconvenient truth for the world, but Afrin isn't lost. There are plans in the works, as depressing as it all seems. Although it's fucking amazing just how much shit NATO is allowed to do as long as their NATO. Thank you for your concern, I believe there's a few Twitter accounts that try their best to document the crimes but it does get overwhelming.



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Most insane PKK combat footage I've seen in a long time. 4 t*rkish soldiers killed in possibly Iraq


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Part 2



It's 5 KIA on Bradost mountain in Sidekan, Iraq.

Xakurkê was spelled out in cartridges at the start of the video. HPG released this press statement, this operation is in solidarity

>On June 8, between 13.00 and 15.00, warplanes bombed the areas of Şerane, Sarkê and Bakırman villages in the Gare region, on June 9, at 23.00, warplanes bombed the Ermuş valley in the Xakurkê region, and lastly on June 10, at 01.15, warplanes bombed the surroundings of Sitê village in the Zap region.



moving thru the rocks the guy is smart




This looks like a IRL FPS.


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I have a bunch of PKK combat videos but 8chan is a load of shit and doesn't allow me to upload them. Hopefully it will work this time.


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What does this mean?



A bunch were deleted by t*rkBots™ so if you have rare ones, drop em here



Theyre already on youtube. And every video is on gerilatv



I've uploaded them all to peertube. Seeing as my videos don't appear to my PeerTube channel (I have no clue why) here is a list of the videos;






















They could have, however they were liable to be ATGM'ed by the MMC so now they have a promise that they can strut all they want without having their chests blown open. Basically nothing has changed.


The Syrian Gov. is reportedly surrendering Tel Riffat to the t*rkish army and it's jihadist proxies. Clearly very anti-imperialist of Assad.

Meanwhile the YPG fought tooth and nail to protect the people of Afrin. What is not to say that if the YPG allowed the SAA to enter Afrin that they wouldn't just wet their underwear and run just like the Russians did?




That's exactly why they didn't take the deal from Damascus when they offered. Now that they're winning, Assad feels like he can do whatever he wants and is less interested in peace. Also

>fighting a successful guerilla campaign against the second largest army in NATO for months on end

>imperialist puppets

/leftypol/ can stay mad, biji Efrîn


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Comrades, I'm scared, but hopeful. Between increasing pressure on US CAS to pull out on one hand, and Erdogan's unexpected political difficulties at home on the other, what are the chances of DFSNS consolidating north Syria into something that gives them real bargaining power against Assad as the rest of the civil war winds down?

I hope DFSNS doesn't end up in the same boat as the PKK in t*rkey, stuck as bands of guerillas in the mountains, struggling to halt intermittent efforts at genocide from Syria and t*rkey.



The DFNS isn't screwed. Assad doesn't want another Ildibistan and hates t*rkish intervention, Russia was a powerful ally but after Afrin it's shakey at best, the US wants a place to watch Assad and fight ISIS so it'll stay, and the SDF are willing to negotiate with the gov and incorporate any runaway FSA groups.

The most likely scenario would be an agreement where the SDF becomes the fighting force of an autonomous Northern Syria based off of DemCon Gang's ideology while observing the regime's legitimacy. Basically the non-state solution Apo dreamed of


Who does /leftpol/ think will win the t*rkish elections, Gollum or his sucdem opposition. I know the HDP (PKK’s electoral front) is polling well, but there still in third and there unlikely to win.




Didn't gay sultan do exactly that when he "crushed" the "coup" a couple years ago? Doesn't seem to have succeeded in stamping out opposition yet.



The elections will likely be rigged, but if that information is leaked it could cause mass protests in t*rkey.



>I know the HDP (PKK’s electoral front) is polling well

Do you always parrot AKP propaganda? There's no denying the affiliation of KCK parties but stating that HDP have anything to do with PKK is bozkurt fucking dumb. Get your head out of your ass and free selo


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>I congratulate to our brother and friend of Venezuela Recep Tayyip Erdogan, for his inmense victory in t*rkey's elections. From Caracas I send a bolivarian hug and our firm commitment to deepen our bonds of cooperation and solidarity.



>Cuba right now is reforming into cybernetic socialism

You know that if the reform will works, the USA will invade Cuba to prevent cybernetic socialism to spread.



wtf I hate maduro now


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“Celebratory Fire”


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uslan be perinçek



Damn, those jihadists must really like Erdogan.


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Turkish Parliamentary Election. MHP gained seats, Erdogan lost seats. Everything is good.


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Two died in “Celebratory Fire”


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Some crazy shit has been going on in Raqqa province lately:

An attack by sleeper cells was stopped by security forces in Raqqa with one terrorist killed and two captured. Later, using the prisoners to investigate, the Raqqa Security Forces arrested 13 more sleeper agents. Pics related. A huge stockpile of weapons were later found. They were assumed to by those Kiyam fuckers but reports circulated that they had gotten help from jihadist elements of the Liwa Thuwar al-Raqqah. Shit is crazy.









Thanks for posting.

From what I understand of points 10,11 and 20 is that most of the secular fights of LTR joined the Raqqah Hawks. So the only people left in LTR are probably non-secular Islamists.



Yup, and traditional Arab tribalists, but even the tribal elders sides with the SDF against the jihadist factions. A few days ago the operation was closed and the cerfew lifted.


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In case y'all forgot, shit has been going down in Afrin. He's a recap:

Jihadist infighting has been going on in Afrin city and it's subdistricts

The YPG killed six jihadists and two t*rks just this week in clashes near Rajo

And the mysterious Efrîn Hawks have carried out bombings on two jihadist command centers and have carried out individual assassinations of fighters. The total for this week is about twenty confirmed. It's gotten so bad that a message from t*rkish MIT agents was leaked that was basically a pep talk to their mercenaries along the lines of "don't get killed please" and some groups of TFSA were reported to be wearing civilian clothes to avoid assassination.

Pics are of the bombings.


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nothing new

we always knew this would happen. read the thread.



based Afrin Falcons



maduro has always been a red imperialist. nothing new. I hope he gets assassinated one day and replaced by true socialists.



inshallah let me bathe in roach blood innit


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YPG killed a mercenary on a motorcycle in Afrin. Video released today.

This comes as TFSA infighting spills out from al-Bab into the Cindirse district in Afrin.


The Syrian Democratic Council sent an open invitation to Damascus (they even refer to Assad as the president of the country) to discuss peaceful dialogue between the two parties along with future negotiations on the status of Syria. This is apparently prompted by "Turkish and American agreements and other agreements and the subject of many issues that make us worry"




>Red Imperialist

What does this even mean? Proof?

>I hope Madurai is assassinated and replaced with true socialists




what type of goverment is Venezuela? It's not socialism certaily. It's another sort of "red" State Capitalism. Maduro is nothing more and nothing less than a porky just dressed in red.



and no the CIA doesn't browses chan boards. This meme is retarded but I do wish I could carry a coup to him to put a true socialism in place. It's impossible tho I'm not going to be a retarded ML and talk about stupid unreal power fantasies. I know my power perfectly.




Enlighten me leftie! How come 1) every revolutionary socialist leader is initially praised to heavens by your kind as example all of mankind should follow, 2) then when the inevitable massive fuckup manifests, it was state capitalism all along and never real socialism, and finally 3) why is it that every single socialist revolution never actually reaches socialism at least not in sustainable manner, otherwise somewhere on this planet would be socialist countries, not in a year, not in almost a century, it's always posthumously dubbed as "state capitalism" by apolegics?



Im not claiming Venezuela is Perfect

Im just pointing out that saying that Maduro getting assasinated would result in anything else but a Reactionary as fuck Pro-Monroe Doctrine gov being put in place is asinine


>otherwise somewhere on this planet would be socialist countries





that the depends on the context of the individual that assesinates such leader and what back up plans for his actions he had. Not everything has to be CIA smh… It's ridiculous.

It's like accusing Rojava of imperialism, it does not give a fuck about Imperialist interests, it's fighting aginst the t*rks and it's allied to Syria.. There are socialists out there who dislike "red" state capitalists, more than you imagine..



In Cuba and in NK the means of production are not owned by the workers either… but feel free to ask the question in a thread of your own not here this is about news about our boys.



Ahh, North-Korea and Cuba are properly socialist! Okay, I'll take it. Two chronically under-developed dictatorial shitholes with full totalitarism, poster childs of socialism, which I already knew because every socialist country has been and will be like that. Of course apolegics will run you over and cry "waah not real socialism" so I'll just grab popcorn.


You didn't read or comprehend the post at all. Can you point at the difficult words?


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Yes, really, bet you mad and tldr. Who am I to argue with big brain black flag intellectual about what's real socialism and what's not?



>Who am I to argue with big brain black flag intellectual

this but unironically

also, stop derailing you absolute retard(s). either make your own thread or fuck off.




Better deal than expected tbh. Hope it's correct.


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Like the twats in your link asked, sauce?



That is the source my dude.



This is too good to be true.

Here is a different link;


Although this source puts down fewer points and that they are only being considered although the negations are making progress.

If what is being said is true then I am so fucking hyped.


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Crazy times to be in Afrin:

The t*rks launched a campaign against a regrouped and stronger YPG near Rajo. Airstrikes followed by large movements of t*rkish troops and smaller bands of jihadists. Two t*rks were killed along with a few dozen proxies. Keep in mind t*rkey is the only player in Syria to conduct airstrikes in territory it has "captured."

The YPG assassinated Muhammad Suleymanin, commander of the "Elite Units." First video is of the killing

The YPG also filmed the killing of some jihadist near Jinderes.


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Getting raided, bumping to save ….


Wrath of Olives has been busy in Idlib and Afrin

Another motorcycle killing:


Four jihadists killed in an explosion, not clear but probably an IED: https://twitter.com/LunaticRizgar/status/1017167044087869440?s=19

Another car destroyed in Idlib. Faylaq-al Sham seems to be the main target in all these attacks:



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Four rebel commanders flee to Israel as Syrian Army takes over Quneitra

>Israeli Army has welcomed four top commanders of the Syrian rebel force in Quneitra province as the Syrian Army is increasingly gaining ground in southwest Syria.

>The commanders are: Moaz Nassar and Abu Rateb of Fursan al-Golan Brigade, Ahmad al-Nahs of Saif al-Sham Brigade, and Alaa al-Halaki of Jaish Ababeel.

>Those have fled Syrian territories with their families and were secured by Israeli military once they get to the border line.

>Opposition sources revealed that the aforementioned commanders have been recruited by the Israeli intelligence to rebel against the Syrian President Bashar Assad, and remained in touch with Israeli officers ever since.



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Wrath of Olives strikes again:

"Muhammad Ali" was killed in another assassination, however this time it was in Afrin, near Rajo. Usually Wrath of Olives is active in Idlib.

In Afrin, the t*rks have set fire to the olive trees to try and flush out the YPG. Turns out their "liberated territory" still hosts an unholy amount of YPG cells and full on tabours.

And another IED assassination three days ago in Idlib by Wrath of Olives:



If this thread is the price to pay for having better mods

then I'll take it.

Hail r*java



Interesting development:

Audio leaked from a TFSA commander stating the arrest of all men aged 15 - 49 in a suburb of Afrin city. Mass arrests are common in the villages.



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>Co-president of Syria Democratic Council ; First we intend to negotiate with Syrian government about services related issues, test level of mutual trust and then might extend it for full negotiation for a political solution towards a decentralized and democratic Syria."



The SDF is negotiating the Syrian Government about supplying oil by main oil fields to [Damascus controlled] Homs & Banias Stations & Oil Refineries.

>B-but Kurds are stealing oil for US imperalism!


Lots of promising things coming from these talks between the SDC and the Government such as YPG involvement in a SAA offensive into Idlib but not all of it is verifiable apparently.


so the 3rd article under the For those critical of the DFNS section, the 'could communal economy be a distinct mode of production' link, was incredibly critical of the the DFNS, basically it just explained how mutualism will always lead to capitalism. I'm wondering why this was included in the sticky. I'd also like to hear a defense of it.



Heil SDF


Fuck, I got bamboozled.

Well played, leftpol, well played…




You can be critical of a project and still maintain support for it. The article does just that


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Wrath of Olives and the YPG resistance in Afrin have been busy lately.

Rumors (both by YPG and SAA commanders) are that the SDF could join the upcoming Idlib offensive if Afrin is included. Not official, but both sides have hinted at joint operations since the SDC/Damascus meetings.

Lastly, the SDF handed over the remains of the SAA 93rd brigade that were found in a mass grave in Tabqa and Ayna Issa, massacred when ISIS took over. It's a good will gesture, again, in light of the meetings.


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Assad to Syrian Army: ‘Victory will be achieved soon’

>Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad delivered a speech in Damascus, today, to commemorate the anniversary of the Syrian Arab Army’s (SAA) founding in 1945.

>Speaking to a crowd of soldiers, Assad began his speech by congratulating the Syrian Arab Army on their victories across Syria.

>“Men of dignity and sovereignty, I congratulate you on your 73rd Day while you are moving from one achievement to another and from one victory to another in the face of the systematic terrorism and its regional and international backers,” he began

>“Our heroic armed forces, you have proven to the whole world over the past seven years that you are an integrated example to follow in nationalism and sacrifice and that you are the fortresses in the face of terrorism,” he said.

>“Your sacrifices and heroism allowed us to reach toady the security and stability in most areas, and you have undermined the Zionist-American project which targets all without any exceptions” Assad continued

>“The liberated areas are returning secure and stable thanks to your heroism and sacrifices and their locals are returning to them again after they got rid of terrorism and its backers,” he told the crowd.

>President Assad concluded his speech by hailing the martyrs and wishing a speedy recovery for the injured, saying that “victory will be achieved soon.”

>Today’s ceremony marked the first time this year that Assad has delivered a speech to the Syrian Arab Army.





Here's hoping.


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The Druze Community wrote a love letter to the SDF and the YPG specifically after the latter offered to exchange ISIS prisoners for those civilans kidnapped in Suwayda a week ago.


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Wrath of Olives has been busy and more ballsy than ever:

They straight up killed a member of a local council (first on the right of the first picture) in Afrin who betrayed many YPG soldiers and their families to the t*rks. Won't post because I'm sure I'd be breaking some rules so here's the full vid:


Yesterday they posted a video of them executing a captured jihadist (Sham Legion) in Afrin. Also won't post so here you go:


Last but not least, two days ago they assassinated a jihadist near al-Bab, which means they now have a presence in all corners of TFSA territory.



>We are all keen on liberating Afrin from the t*rks who have left us only with diseases and aggression.

The full text is actually rather beautiful.



It really is. The solidarity between the Druze and minorities in the north, specifically the Kurds, is strong since they all suffered under the ba'ath regime.


I have created a board called >>>/ecopol/ for the discussion of environmental politics. It has become completely overrun by /pol/

If you are a communalist, or just interested in environmental politics, please stop by and post so that this thing doesn't become complete shit even before it gets off the ground



Remember that you’re on one of the biggest fascist gathering sites on the web. Give them an inch and they’ll take a mile. I’ll drop by though



Sorry m8, but that board will never fly if it is open to both /pol/ and /left(y)pol/ types. Every thread will get derailed by them being at each other’s throats.


>SDF and Regime Axis Forces are amassing at Al-Rashideen Neighborhood also,which is odd,because SDF has no frontline there,SDF is amassing at areas with a frontline with Syrian Opposition Forces

>3000 SDF forces have reached Aleppo City,to participate in the Regime Offensive on Rebel-Held Idlib

>SDF is preparing a part of its force to partake in the battle for JTS-Held Hayyan,Haritan,Kafr Hamra and JTS and HTS-Held West Aleppo Countryside

Big if true. PlagarismAnon is going to have a shock when he realises that he is going to have to fight alongside the SDF when he gets to Syria.





He's unreliable, same guy who claimed the SAA entered Hajin only to be attacked by SDF.


"Reports of YPG/SDF amassing in West Aleppo or anywhere on Idlib border are baseless."



Thanks for clarifying. I take single twitter "reports" with a grain of salt anyway, regardless of who they are from.


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No worries, it's frustrating because sometimes he'll tweet accurate information first, then other times he'll totally make up shit or report blatant propaganda.



Cry moar faggot. Lebensraum now




it's PKK or PYD, otherwise you sound like a t*rk bot. And nothing official, just smug "that's what you get for voting Erdogan" statements here and there.



No worries, the acronyms in that part of the world are mind boggling.


Before t*rkish occipation; women wore whatever they wish; short sleeves and bright Keffiyahs etc with a few local Arabs who wore niqabs etc.

After t*rkish occupation; signs (in Arabic ofc) put up in Kurdish populated Efrin city warning parents to cover up their kids in modest clothing. Probably to 'protect' from the Jihadists known to rape young Kurdish girls.



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Sexual violence in TFSA territory is widespread and reports of it are hushed up, like when a high ranking commander of Jarabulus taped himself having raping a fourteen year old girl and kept his job. Just recently a member of Liwa Suleiman Shah brigade raped a woman and arrested her husband while she herself was three months pregnant. The brigade said she was lying and prosecuted her for that "crime." Report sexual violence, get jailed. Also interesting note, the emblem of Liwa Suleiman Shah uses a t*rkish rifle instead of an ak


any time line on when the americans are leaving?


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Once SDC/Damascus talks get somewhere. Right now Assad is trying his "no compromises" strategy so obviously talks stalled, however since the Druze have shown interest now the SDC has more leverage. Plus a combined SDF/SAA offensive into Idlib, Afrin, and northern Aleppo would probably cement things, eventually leading to the US withdrawal.


How do you guys think about Comrade Hakim's video about the Kurds and Rojava?


And before you it's a raging tankie like Unruhe, he actually critically supports Rojava somewhat.



before you think*



An American withdrawal would be bad right now. It would be a go ahead for t*rkey to invade. The only reason t*rkey hasn't invaded Manbij yet is because Burger airfields are there and t*rkey doesn’t want to be kicked out of NATO. American withdrawal should wait until the t*rkish Lira collapse is in full affect, and t*rkey is militarily unable to invade Manbij.


It’s pretty good. However him saying that the Kurds aren’t a single ethnic group is kinga wrong/



I don’t think even that is necessary for an American withdrawal to be viable. Even the SAA moving in to mount a joint defence of the area would be enough. t*rkey relies on painting the YPG as being terrorists, but it would be much harder to justify direct, aggressive action against an internationally recognized government.



>However him saying that the Kurds aren’t a single ethnic group is kinga wrong

I don't think he ever says that the Kurds are not a single ethnic group. In fact at about 40 seconds in he specifically states that the Kurds a "an [singular] Iranian ethnic group".

Either way, What Hakim was saying was that there are very significant linguistic and cultural differences between the Kurds that would make a single united Kurdistan difficult to function.



it's no more severe than other national projects. "We've created Italy, now we must create italians" etc. etc.


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Why are the Burgers installing Radars in Rojava? These Radars aren’t near the SAA boarder, but near the t*rkish boarder. Was this at the request of the SDF or does the Pentagon think war with t*rkey is a possibility?



I find it hard to imagine that if it really came down to that that the US would side with Rojava over t*rkey. If anything the US would use t*rkey as a proxy to annex Rojava under the pretext of fighting "terrorism" to establish a permanent NATO presence in Syria.



dont give any ideas my man i like things as they going now



inb4 Erdogan regime change'd



Israel wants Kurdistan as a stable buffer state between themselves, Iran, t*rkey and Russia. America supports Israel.


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>Israel wants Kurdistan as a stable buffer state



I would unironicaly join the US military if this happened.


Still makes me laugh that ex-military volunteers got buttmad that the YPG sidelined them in favour of Western socialists and "social justive warriors".

No wonder it was the same toxic people that caused so much drama in the volunteer groups.




>Israel wants Kurdistan as a stable buffer state between themselves, Iran, t*rkey and Russia. America supports Israel.

Then they picked a really shitty candidate for that given that Syrian Kurds will probably ally with Assad and therefore Iran and Hezbollah.



Please don’t give leftypol retards ammo to use against us. The only acceptable reason to join the US military is to receive professional training to use against the US.



Rojava is a socialist project,no shit there going to wan people entering their country to be socialists. Obviously socialist vets should be the most prioritized. However non-socialist volunteers can be converted to socialism, which should be done.


I’m not joking. I’m a Burger who’s (almost) military age and lot’s of people in my family are active duty or vets. The main reason I probably won’t join the Burger military is because it’s a reactionary institution. However if they were invading t*rkey with the goal of regime change, this would significantly increase the chances of t*rkey going Commie. I would join the Burger military.


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bir-ruh, bid-dam, nafdika ya bashar


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Not with DFNS, but the Zionists support the right wing Kurdish nationalists in Iraqi KRG and backed the KRG independence referendum.



What is this about?


fuck off



It was a protest a week ago about the PYD and the Syriac Union Party closing and converting private run schools run by the Syriac church and reforming their curriculum. Some people chimped out and claimed that it was an attempt at destroying Syriac culture and language despite the reforms being backed by other Syriac groups and Syriac culture and language still being a part of the new curriculum.

The protests were more to do with a power struggle between TEV-DEM and the Syrian government in Qamishlo‎ than anything else.

To quote the The Syriac Cultural Association;

>he education organization which prepared the Syriac syllabus, has sent its teachers to the Syriac schools in order to meet the management of the schools and discuss the way of applying the new Syriac syllabus which is one of our existential issues

>We also assure that we absolutely reject closing the schools. We strongly approve that the schools should stay open and keep teaching knowledge and enlightenment. Thus, we hope that the schools teachers can coordinate with us and keep teaching

Additionally, Juche Anon is right about the KRG; they are a reactionary and feudal state backed by Israel.




>calling anyone else feudalistic

Top kek, as the kiddos say.


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Apparently the pro-Assad Syriacs in the private schools wanted to add more required Arabic language courses along the lines of the Ba'ath party lines. After the local administrations didn't approve the curriculum, the schools still introduced it. The Syriac Union Party would have none of it and Sutoro went in to close a few down. Tons of outlits promoted the "PYD/PKK oppressing minorities" line, despite the fact it was an internal division within the Syriac/Christian community (see Sutoro/Sootoro split in Qamishil). The YPG was nowhere during these occurrences.

These divisions have lasted for years, as is apparent by the numerous militas split down party factions for Syriacs (MFS, Khabour Guards, Nattoreh) despite their overall small size. Sadly for Juche poster, it's not an SDF vs. SAA deal, it's an Orthodox vs. Eastern Catholic vs. Church of the East religious divide plus a pro-state vs. pro-non state Dawronoye split.

tl;dr internal Christian/Syriac divide, not ebil mountain t*rks.



>iraqi kurds in the krg praising israel means something about the intentions of syrian kurds in the dfns,

can you even tell the two groups apart? or is that too fucking complicated for you to follow?



What actual Economic Similarities to Feudalism does the DPRK have?


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a more important question would be:

what in the world of fuck makes you think DPRK is a good place for a working class individual to be in????????



>Socialist Planned economy

>High Living standards in Comparison to almost the entirety of the rest of the 3rd world

>Social Welfare system / On Demand Medicine and Healthcare / Education system

>Much better working conditions then the Literal USA(s) of Asia to its South / South-East

>No almost absolute domination of society by capitalist class as seen in its Southern / Eastern neighbors



if you're not going to read books you shouldn't even browse this board really. the 1st thing we tell to anyone is read a fucking book. so just piss off or get bored to death here then who cares not even your parents tbh.


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elaborate don't be such a faggot. all things you stated mean absolutely nothing to the concept of "worker ownership of the means of production".

even the co-ops of Rojava are closer to that than what you said lmao. Get your definitions on what is what correctly first then keep reading.


also absolutely everything stated is a lie except "planned economy" but if planned economy is a plan to keep the party rich & everyone else underperforming that is still shit… The workers are still working for their bosses, in this case the party…

& don't give me the "but these are benevolent bosses" shit, no such thing as a benevolent boss. It ain't socialism. If your labor mantains a lazy fat fuck ruling your ass, it's not your own, it's not socialism.



>"worker ownership of the means of production".

The DPRK's economy has been much more successful at putting Workers into control of the MoP then even Rojava's

It has managed to expand workplace Democracy and economic planning throughout the entire country in a generalized sense

Meanwhile not every business in your Golden goose of Rojava is a Co-Operative and Private Agriculture and Private Buisness is still the Dominant MoP throughout much of its territory



are there classes in North Korea yes or no smooth brain anon? can you answer that simple question?



>but if planned economy is a plan to keep the party rich & everyone else underperforming that is still shit


The DPRK's planned economy is all about developing the Economy / Infrastructure / Improving the standard of living of its citizens (Something it has excelled at compared to countries of similar economic situation)

>The workers are still working for their bosses, in this case the party…

The Workers are the party and the party IS the workers


>are there classes in North Korea yes or no



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there are classes in NK but whatever keep lying to yourself… Read a book tbh.



>there are classes in NK but whatever keep lying to yourself… Read a book tbh.

ok show me the class distinctions then and Capitalism as the General Mode of Production

<Inb4 "People who work for the goverment are magically a different class despite having no difference in relation to the MoP compared to the rest of the general population"



woah dude you really believe a fatty asian that studied in a prestigious Swiss school & lives like a prince is really the same class as a korean peasant farmer.

beautiful hahahah. but for real read a book.



>woah dude you really believe a fatty asian

<People on this board call me racist

But seriously wtf does he being asian have to do with this?

>that studied in a prestigious Swiss school

Switzerland was one of the only nations that would allow students from Socialist states to study as foreign students at Uni's / School

This wasnt Unique to Kim and NK students still travel aboard for higher education in Switzerland iirc

>& lives like a prince

Citation / Explanation needed

>is really the same class as a korean peasant farmer.

His relation to the MoP is the same as them so in terms of class literally yes

>beautiful hahahah. but for real read a book.

Nod an Arguemend :D:D:D



>Private Agriculture and Private Buisness is still the Dominant MoP throughout much of its territory

That's not true. At least two-thirds of business are co-ops with three-quarters being owned by the community. Not exactly "dominated" by privately controlled MoP.


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>>iraqi kurds in the krg praising israel means something about the intentions of syrian kurds in the dfns

Never said that.

>can you even tell the two groups apart?

I clearly did. One wants federalization, the other wants seccesion.

And the point is that the Zionists do support the creation of an allied independent Kurdish state.



t. doesn't know what Juche is or what feudalism is


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>absolutely everything stated is a lie



>Not with DFNS

sorry i missed reading this part, my mistake


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>Mattis: We have zero intelligence that shows the opposition has any chemical capability.



>Haley: If there are chemical weapons that are used,we know exactly who is going to use them


It definitely seems like there's going to be another "chemical attack" in the upcoming Idlib offensive.



Honestly I don't think that *all* the attacks were staged (although some might have been). However I think the more important point to emphasize is that even if Assad did carry out gas attacks, it STILL wouldn't justify western intervention. Next time a liberal brings it up just ask them if they would be any more dead had they been bombed rather than gassed. Civillian casualties are unfortunate, but the idea of "war crimes" actually meaning anything is laughable, there has literally never been a war ever fought without atrocities on both sides, simply because its basically impossible to avoid hitting civvies. Other kinds of war crimes that are actually in your control like summary executions or treatment of POWs is another matter, but as far as collateral damage goes, the only moral question is who has the better cause, which in this case is Assad.



Even if Assad used Chemical Weapons, so what. There’s nothing wrong with using chemical weapons in battle. They aren’t Nukes. There no different than artillitary shells or missiles.



I wouldn't say that. They're unnecessarily cruel in many cases, and aren't even all that effective in killing large numbers of people. They're only real point is to cause terror. Even Hitler refused to use them during the war. That being said, Assad's possible use of them still doesn't justify western intervention.



t. agent orange retard baby



>Even Hitler refused to use them during the war.

Didn't Hitler witness the effects of gas attacks in WWI?



>everybody who disagrees with be is Drlnlnd Quimph




Chemical weapons are effective at winning battles. They can easily distrust and destroy enemy troop formations. Allowing your soldiers to quickly encircle them and win an easy victory. Which is better than doing a long, protracted battle which would lead to much more casualties on both sides. By speeding up battles and flushing enemy troops out of strategic positions Chemical Weapons save lives. All I’m saying is that if I were an officer I would have no problems ripping up the Geneva Accords and using them, if it means a speeder victory where my troops take less casualties.


>They're unnecessarily cruel in many cases

That’s only true in trench warfare, which because of Tanks is very rare these days.



Good thing they aren't thinking like you

Because that would just invite a stronger intervention from the US, and Russia wouldn't really be able to do a thing except scream how they do not support that idea.


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you don't know what you're talking about. cook a chem weapon yourself and smell the gas see how you like it.

point is you like it or not they're banned so bigger nations can use it as an excuse to annex you, I still don't believe a goverment used those it must have been ISIS.Anyone can cook chemical weapons.


you don't understand socialism. the idea of classlessness doesn't fit in your peanut. A system where power is inherited by the next member of the family line (a blood caste system) isn't socialism & yes it has class in it. The Jong Family is the highest ruling class in that state, if you used Marxist methods the ones in Das Kapital to analyse systems you would realize why Marx pointed at the Paris Commune as an example of something that could transition into Socialism & nothing else.

North Korea already concluded. It already set it's burocracy, it's heriarchy. It's blood-line passed. In every system all you have to do to see what it is, is simple. Just see the last names of the ones in power thats how you recognize how "democratic" really is.

Now Rojava isn't Socialism either PissPigGrandad has said that it rensembles Stalinism more but meh that can't be true, I can tell it's a military heriarchy for sure but the difference between Rojava & NK is big their revolution hasn't concluded & it's a way more progressive modernized revolution. NK got stuck in the past, it's traditional, more importantly not socialism & it's not transitioning to socialism either it's over already.

Kim Ju-ae is going to be the next top of the food chain bourgeoisie in the North Korean society. I don't even need to do deep analysis to come to this obvious conclusion… The peasant farmer can't do much. He works to maintain the status quo of these people after all…


because you see… I can say we have the same relation to the means of production as you but I also have the power to shank the fuck out of you if you're doing whatever you want with the product of your labor & you don't if I do whatever I want with the power of your labor.

I rule you. Class rule exists because I the ruler still like it that way, thats how it has been for 70 years. Foolish you that thinks things will change.


I am wondering what text I should start with if I want to learn more about Ocalan? Any book you think I should read first or just start at the beginning and go down


After the wave of successful assassination shootings carrying out by the YPG against the jihadist occupiers in Afrin (which at this rate is getting too many to tally) The 23rd FSA division proposed a mass expulsion of male Kurds aged 15-50 in the Afrin area as a form of retaliatory ethnic cleansing against the native Kurdish population.

The t*rkish backed 23rd division, previously the 16th FSA division, has had a history of human rights abuses including mass looting (which the stolen goods being sent to t*rkey) and indiscriminate use of hell-cannons on the Kurdish Sheikh Maqsood and elsewhere killing hundreds of innocent civilians.




were will they go? could displaced males cross the line to tal rifat?


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Erdogan screeching about the upcoming liberation of Idlib:




>The Assad regime seeks to legitimize its imminent attack on counterterrorism grounds. Make no mistake: No country appreciates the need to combat terrorism better than t*rkey

>No country appreciates the need to combat terrorism better than t*rkey

He syas this as he gives ISIS air support and shoots down Russian Jets.


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Gotta love all the shitlib screeching.


The SDF has apologised to Damascus for the "unintentional accident" between the SDF Police (Asayish) and Syrian Government forces in Qamishli last week.




What happened here exactly?


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The story goes that the NDF entered SDF territory policed by Asayish (DNFS police force, primarily Kurdish) and started checking ID's and trying to recruit people. Asayish confronted the NDF members and shots rang out and the confrontation got violent. 11 NDF were and 7 Asayish were killed in the violence. Pro-regime forces claimed it was an ambush but the video shows the Asayish standing unobstructed and guns pointing down. The NDF were behind armoured trucks. There were pictures of the aftermath, NDF bodies in the street and a water truck washing the blood off but I couldn't find it. Unsurprisingly, this didn't turn into a huge deal as Assad knows full well the NDF are dumbasses: a few days the NDF killed 3 Russian MPs near Hama.


Regime Twitter swore it would be war but the SAA couldn't care less for their paramilitary dead weight.


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You're the president of t*rkey and you are making a diplomatic trip to Germany but these Marxist-Leninist stand in your way.

What do you do?



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Hope to see Erdogan get the Soward and Shield treatment form German Comrades.


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>when you are so socialist you contract literal imperialist mercenaries

Can this Rojava meme finally die now?



Liberal: hey ML, you hate capitalism but you stills est food!!! Hyprocrite much?!?!?

ML: lol what a retard

The same ML: Hey Rojava, you're fighting a revolution but you by weapons!!! Hyprocrite much?!?!?



>Buying weapons is the same as inviting US troops that don't wear the flag around




>We, People’s Protection Units (YPG) of Rojava-Syria, wish to engage with Castle International LLC of Arizona, USA for the purpose of a long-term contractual agreement in the eservices of combat medical-support and logistics subject matter expertise.

>the eservices of combat medical-support


>hurdurr hospitals are bad, if the doctors are burgers. Real revolutionaries die of easily treatable diseases.

t tanks

Except that Rojava are hiring are doctors to provide the service of field hospitals. They are hiring mercenaries. Besides the US don’t have any army units in Rojava, just Airbases of a few dozen luck service that can easily be encircled by the YPG and have there planes stolen at any time. Read the text of the pics you post.


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>i'll let foxes guard the hen house

>what could go wrong???



So you want the most to fight a war against the 9th largest army in the world, and against ISIS, and with tensions against Assad who is backed by the Russians without any assistance at all?

The fucking Kurds could be executing Bezos screeming "long live Lenin, long live Makhno" and they'd till be too fucking right wing for you.



Phone posting. Sorry for the autocorrect.




Castle International is literally the same group that gets contracted in the US to be private ambulances and shit like that, and they specialize in air transportation for wounded people. They aren't hiring some fucking highly skilled military unit, they are hiring medics.



Doctors are very dangerous. As we all know.



Easy there, Mr Pot.


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>Castle International LLC is an Air Ambulance and Rescue service that provides its patients with the highest levels of compassionate care through our military based values of selfless service and uncompromising integrity. We provide our patients with the very best clinicians by employing an elite staff of veterans who have proven their value to our nation and we provide a superior level of care by utilizing cutting edge Lifebot 5 Telemedicine technology.

>At Castle International we are committed to making sure that at least 80% of our hiring comes from the military community. Military and military spouses get a first look in the hiring process as the recruiters move through the candidate list.

What could go wrong?



>Having field hospitals being operated by people with experience in frontline combat and who know how to treat people injured is bad



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People go to hospital?



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This was my first time seeing this communiqué so i checked it out. For the past eight days it's only been reported by t*rkish/obscure Russian media outlets and this thread on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MrRevinsky/status/1041770016612462592?s=19

However, the supposed pictures (first pic) of the PMC are actually just Y.A.T. (ypg special forces, second and third pics) during the Tabqa Operation and conveniently censored U.S. special forces from 2015. No official letter from the PYD or SDC as there usually are.

Also that letter's format is all off. If it's a misinformation campaign, then it's an oddly specific one that flew under the radar.






Even Acedemi (Former Blackwater) list themselves as logistic and support specialists.

But of course, there is nothing wrong with having American soldiers keeping the oil fields safe.



Well Blackwater/Acedemi did stop doing security work back in 2008. So yes; all they do now is logistics and training. Just as Castle Int. LLC is simply a medical and extraction company not some mercenary oil field security group.



Just a medical and extraction company that gets 80% of its hires from the US military and has extensive connections to the US government. Nothing to see here.



This isn’t bad. This will give the SDF opportunities to Educate vets on Communalism and leftist ideology.


>/leftpol/ thinks that US backed CIA controlled faction is communist

/leftypol/ was right again



>joseph stalin

>mao zedong

>ho chi minh

>pol pot

>not communist because they were us backed cia controlled



>CIA controlled faction

What's your proof? Does the YPG glow in the dark or something?



>Just a medical and extraction company that gets 80% of its hires from the US military and has extensive connections to the US government.

Hiring from the military makes sense though since that’s a large body of people qualified to do the kind of work the company does. I don’t approve of or condone this decision on the part of the YPG, but I fail to see how it will compromise their ability to operate independently of the US.


>The joint chair of the [Syrian Democratic Council], Amina Omar, stressed that the council is still ready for dialogue [with the Syrian government] "because we believe that the political solution is the best solution to end the Syrian crisis."


I'm guessing this is some sort of 4D chess plot by the US to legitimise the Assad government and bring long-lasting peace to Syria?



Given Assad was happily torturing US-renditioned prisoners in blacksites and assassinating uppity Lebonese presidents across the border just a few years ago, this isn't exactly the most epic feud.



How can there be socialism if there is no society?


>Freed pastor Brunson leaves t*rkey, due in U.S. Saturday


I'm guessing that US-Turkish relations will go back to normal.



Not really. Also note that the day he was released, the t*rks shelled the villages outside Kobani and moved troops to the border. They lost that propaganda battle so they flex their strength on farmers


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Picture of the TFSA on t*rkish soil possibly planning an a t*rkish backed offensive east of the Euphrates. Considering the latest developments in t*rkish attacks on Northern Rojava.


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So, when are they going to implement Yousef Thought on Socialism with Syrian Characteristics for a New Era to develop the productive forces?


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Erdogan is real pissed that the US wouldn't let him have Manbij so he's trying to stir up trouble in Tel Abayd: A leading Arab tribal elder within the Raqqa Civilian Council was killed and our friends "Syrian Khayim" have suddenly reappeared on Twitter after they were eliminated earlier this year…

Constant shelling near Kobani and Tel Abayd. A sniper killed a little girl a few days ago. 2 HXP have been killed and one al-Sandid soldier was injured. The YPG in response blew up a truck with an ATGM.

In response to the shelling, the Hajin offensive was stalled while the US and SDF created joint patrols at the border but the shelling continued until a sorority of fighters flew over t*rk artillery positions yesterday.

Rumors of former al-Qaeda and Idlib jihadists being transferred to t*rkey, like before Euphrates Shield, are unconfirmed but rampant.

Some crazy shit is going on right now but two things are clear: Erdogan can't invade, but he just bought ISIS in Hajin time.



private capital buys them aks & other weaponry like vehicles or helicopters that they need to win the revolution & become a real ass country. At least so far…

What do you suggest? labour brouchers?

Are you mocking Rojava for using means of trading goods (for war, for survival)? really dude? I don't think they have weapon factories or the infrastructure in general to discard mundane ass capital yet… I know they have weaponsmiths, individual ones but not factories this ain't the fucking USSR buddy where a lot of employed workers make a piece of the AK & assamble it. this guys buy a shit ton of WASR10 from Romania & those places.


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Turkish FSA are infighting again, this time in Efrin. This is what happens when you use thugs and looters to invade a country.


Seems like t*rkey and their jihadist puppets are gearing up for a fight. Lots of talk about an offensive "East of the Euphrates" that won't target US stations.

>Turkey will carry out a military operation east of the Euphrates River in Syria in a couple of days

>Erdoğan said the operation will target terrorist organizations operating in Syria, adding: "Our targets will never be U.S. soldiers."


TFSA in Jarablus, al-Bab and Afrin put on high alert.


TFSA spokesperson says:

>The battle of the East Euphrates against the PKK… will extend to the entire terrorist-controlled area


Reports of US garrisons withdrawing from outposts in Tell Abyad


TFSA confirmation of jets planning to used in the upcoming offensive with TFSA jihadists posting online about awaiting their arrival in Tell Abyad.


Turkish army removing border walls by Ras al-Ayn.


Rojava has started mobilisation and has called on the Syrian Government to act against t*rkey's threats against Syria's sovereignty (maybe a sign that the SDC knows that the US could abandon them at any moment).


Take the TFSA and t*rkish posturing with a a grain of salt but there are definitely up to something. This all happening whilst the SDF are making gains against ISIS in Hajin.



Well fuck. I wish Rojava the best of luck, but given Afrin I don't have much optimism.


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Well if there is anytime for Assad to untie his knickers and get over his distrust of the SDC; it would be now. If the US won't be interested in protecting Syria's sovereignty, then maybe the Syrian Government will. Of course, none of this would have been a problem in Damascus was more open to negations with the SDC over the past two years or if they actually gave a shit when t*rkey invaded Afrin.

But who knows what will happen.


>Turkey to launch military operation east of the Euphrates River "any moment now" – President Erdogan


>Erdogan: US President Trump gave a positive answer to our operation in the east of the Euphrates



>Salih Muslim: We do not know what is going on between the US and t*rkey but Afrin was bombed with NATO bombs

Looks like the PYD are being more openly sceptical of the US' role in Syria.


US Representative for "Syria Engagement" has stated;

>We support SDF for specific goal: fighting ISIS which they’re not doing as a favor to us. They are partners in a transactional relationship. Afterwards they are a Syrian party like anyone. We don’t have permanent relations with substate entities.





Well, at least Rojava lived longer than the usual three years.



You people have been saying the end is near every month. Worse track record than Erdogan himself.



Speaking of Erdogan…



>well THIS time for THESE reasons…

Old hat but keep going. The "Rojava is over" curse will do its work.



Yeah, it's just a t*rkish invasion with no American air support or air cover! Easy-peasy. Seriously, do you think that Rojava has a snowball's chance in hell of surviving without the Americans?



They're already working with the SAA who won't exactly take kindly to having separatist jihadists holding half the country rather than people who actually want to work with them. Let's not forget that they are effectively open to Russian support now.

Your appeal to pessimist bias is weak and serves no purpose but as a cowardly bet.



I’ll believe it when I see it. Trump said this earlier this year and was bombing Syria after another “gas-attack” stunt a few weeks after that. The Pentagon is supposedly against this and there’s nothing known about exactly when they’d be leaving at this point so I’m going to remain skeptical


/leftypol/ last week

>You naive anarchists think the bases are just temporary? the US will never leave r*java

/leftypol/ Today

>You naive anarchists, how does it feel now that the US is leaving r*java? the bases were always temporary.


Can someone explain why /leftypol/ hates Rojava and Democratic Confederalism so much? Is it just the bases? I really like Lenin and I don’t see the reason to ban it off the board and I support Rojava despite not knowing much beyond the basics of Ocalan’s ideas



BO is a stupid goon faggot and only the odd troon from SA likes them.



Very true. Bumplocked my thread about how goons effectively run the show regarding the left online and increasingly in real life.



It’s because /leftypol/ has an obsession with everything anti-america. They think America is some boogeyman that causes everything bad in the world. So when the Kurds say “we don’t hate America” /leftypol/ hates them.


I guess Body Odour will need to change the leftypol word filter for Rojava to 'over a thousand empty American military bases in Syria'



>they are effectively open to Russian support now.

Putin already has his guy there in Assad.



Russia suggested a federal solution to the Syrian problem back in 2017 and had previously worked with the SDF so it is not out of the question.



Means nothing if Capitalism is restored.



> They think America is some boogeyman that causes everything bad in the world

This is 99% correct, barring a few outliers.



well america left u guys so t*rks will have a big rape orgy

rojava is officially dead


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Not if they cooperate with the SAA on fair conditions.As I said earlier, none of this would have happened if the Syrian gov was more open to negotiations with TEV-DEM back in 2017.



Imagine calling yourself a "leftist" but then cheering on capitalists and relishing in the destruction of socialists.



Since the Afrin occupation t*rks have been dying in YPD roadside IEDs and Car Bombs. If the t*rks invade all of Rojava it will be their graveyard.


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Dialectics I guess.


Most of /leftypol/'s current userbase aren't socialists, they're edgy socdems whose activities will never go beyond cheerleading for some anti-burger state from the comfort of their social media accounts. You can safely ignore them because they won't be involved with any real movement that would require more than screeching on the internet.



>rojava is officially dead says increasingly nervous t*rkroach for the seventh time this year

they will not die without a fight



Then full communism?


>After the decision of the US withdrawal … [TEV-DEM] and the Syrian regime are holding a high-level meeting and discuss the [handover] of the last oil fields in the east of the Euphrates

>The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights obtained information from reliable sources that confirmed that a meeting was taking place between the Syrian Democratic Forces Command and a delegation of the Syrian regime

>Between the leadership of both the Syrian regime and the leadership of Syria's democratic forces, the future of the region is discussed in light of the American decision to withdraw from the region and the t*rkish threat of military operation in the region


Apparently there have been rumours the SAA helping out the SDF with the t*rkish invasion and the possibility of a land handover could be a deal for greater coordination and maybe integration between the two parties. I'm stoked tbh.



>Most of /leftypol/'s current userbase aren't socialists, they're edgy socdems

I don't think you're browsing the right leftypol "comrade." Iv'e seen more support for democrat party socdem and reformism from this board considering half your population is red and anacho liberals.


I haven't really paid any attention to what is going on here.

So let me get this straight.

I know the US is aiding the Northern Alliance of Kurds. Does America leaving mean that t*rkey is going to try snatch up Syria? I know ultimately we want these people to be in charge of the country but I didn't realize our presence in this conflict was important and good for the proletariat living there.



Where have people been supporting the Democrat Party of leftpol? Do you not remember when leftypol practically invented Bernie memes?



>Where have people been supporting the Democrat Party of leftpol?

In his imagination.


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As long as American soldiers, etc. are accompanying the Kurds, the t*rks will not rush in and tear Kurdistan a new asshole. As likely as not, Assad and Putin will allow the Kurds to take all the casualties if the t*rks invade and only provide them with enough support to keep the t*rks from taking that pipeline corridor that both the Americans and the t*rks so desperately want. The Kurds are stuck at Ground Zero of a Great Power conflict. The best case scenario for them is that Putin and Assad force back the t*rks and subsequently are uncharacteristically kind to the Kurds and do not simply annihilate them once they no longer have a foreign backer.



the pipeline conspiracy has so many problems, why would saudi arabia allow a Qatar backed pipeline over their territory? why would Iraq? why would the pipeline need to cross Syria, when there are already pipelines going from Northern Iraq into t*rkey? why couldn't the pipeline cross west friend Jordan to Israel to the Mediterranean? if the Qatar-Syria-Turkey pipeline is an agenda of western gas supremacy, why does t*rkey make agreements for the construction of Russian pipelines?

the biggest problem with the theory is of course, that the proposal for the Qatar-Turkey pipeline was only first drafted after the Syrian civil war already began.



The t*rks will invade swiftly, however post-invasion they will deal with an insurgency that they won’t be able to handle. It will drain their manpower, moral, and resources. Basically a leftist Afghanistan.



The t*rks don't need to handle it. They can leave that for Assad to take care of.



These people are pathetic. They should take a lesson from Salih Muslim:

>[The US] have not been here to protect us anyway, we rely on our own strength and defences.

>Whether they go or stay is up to them, our interests have been congruent for some time and we have acted together. But we have never depended on them


Also the US presence in Rojava was not a occupation. An occupation implies control over an area, which the US did not have. It would be like saying that Iran "occupies" areas around Aleppo.


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This will happen next week basically.


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No THIS will happen.


>Russia offers to deploy border guards of the regime on the borderline between the two rivers and a delegation of SDF arrives in Moscow to discuss it and discuss the future of east Euphrates

>sources added that the Russians made an offer to the Syria Democratic Forces about deploying border guards of the Syrian regime, in the border area from the east of Euphrates to the Tigris River


>Iraq PM says Iraqi troops could deploy into Syria to protect from threats across the border -latest fallout from US decision to withdraw. He said Iraq concerned ISIL could expand footprint.


Fuck these #DoNotAbondonRojava pussy beta bitches, if the SAA properly cooperates with the SDF then they can both send the t*rks packing.


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'We Will Curse Them As Traitors': Syrian Kurds React To U.S. Troop Withdrawal Plan

This week, NPR tried to gain access to a few of the U.S. bases but was told the American troops there are not authorized to comment. Syrian civilians working and living near the bases, though, spoke openly about how they felt — and many say they feel betrayed by Trump's decision.

Hatem Hassan, 37, runs a money exchange shop in Qamishli. He says Trump's decision hits close to home.

"If they will leave, we will curse them as traitors," he says. "The Kurds helped them to destroy ISIS. … I have seven people from my family who were fighting ISIS and who were killed. And they were very young, not even in their 20s."

Haji Haidar, 39, is standing outside his blacksmith shop. Everyone here is angry and scared, he says.

"All the work they did together, and now they are leaving so suddenly," he says. "I don't understand it. People are afraid that they will just sell the country to someone."

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR ME LATELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?!?!??!!!??!!



Someone needs to let them all know that the US was also funding ISIS in the first damn place.



Turkey and the SAA will obliterate the Kurds, get ready for the tears, homo.



Will the Russians also withdraw?



They did it in Afrin, look at how that turned out.


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i'm late, but wanted to see how /leftpol/ is taking the news of US withdrawing their support. are you happy, sad?



Very sad. Knew it was going to happen, but hoped it would happen later, preferably after Syria was further on the way to federalization and/or Erdogan had been regime change'd.



it's good that U.S. troops are withdrawing, but the timing is absolute shit. the t*rks have publicly stated they will begin an operation in Northern Syria and the U.S. is leaving to give them the opportunity. of course, the pro-Assad faction is more than happy to let the t*rks commit genocide because it eliminates the unpleasant idea of independent factions within Syria. SyrianGirl has lately been putting out vicious anti-Kurd propaganda but doesn't seem to care that it's the fucking turks who will be invading Syria soon and will probably occupy a large chunk of it.

ultimately the U.S. should never have gotten involved to the extent that it did, but as usual once it gets involves it manages to exit the situation in the worst fucking way and simply abandons its allies to their fate.



Yeah we get it Mehmet; you fantasise about having homosexual relations with Kurdish men



Turkey will face a guerrilla resistance that will sap their moral. Assad might do the same if he is stupid enough.


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>roaches are fags

No surprise


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>Syria's democratic forces: We seek to agree with Moscow and Damascus to fill the vacuum of the American withdrawal


>Russian Foreign Ministry: Syrian authorities must control the lands from which the Americans will leave


Arimah and other towns West of Manbij have been reinforced by Syrian Arab Army soldiers in cooperation with the SDF/MMC to defend the area from t*rkish/jihadist attack.



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> The Kurdistan region of Iraq is at times described by the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) and outside observers as the “Other Iraq,” that is, a place that enjoys relative stability, security, economic development, political pluralism, and a margin of freedom for civil society. This may be true, but this assessment fails to recognize key parts of the story. The region is dominated by two main parties, the Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP) led by current president of the region Masoud Barzani and the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) led by former president of Iraq Jalal Talabani. It is also dominated by the two ruling families, the Barzanis and Talabanis, that have established what is known as a sultanistic system and have tried over several decades to consolidate their rule.




Only English sauce off Twatter I could find:


From what I can tell, the replacement forces may or may not be dense enough along the t*rk-occupied frontier to prevent an invasion from routing around them.


Main problem with the Iraqi KRG is that they've almost continually embargoed DFSNS on orders from t*rkey, which compounded with the Assad regime's beating DFSNS expansion to coastal territories during the landgrab phase of the war against ISIS, has effectively sealed off DFSNS access to steady trade aside from smugglers.


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Typical that americans stab in the back and sell Rojava to t*rkroaches. The greatest revolution of our time will go down in a bloodbath and defeat.



>the replacement forces may or may not be dense enough along the t*rk-occupied frontier to prevent an invasion from routing around them

The reason why the SAA is only in the West of Manbij, where they have been for the last year and a half, is that the US had the North covered. I suspect that this is subject to change, especially with talks of the negotiations to have the SAA move to the Northern border of Rojava


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A lot has been going on but basically France, the UAE, Russia, Damascus, the US military, and Saudi Arabia have entered into a de-facto quasi coalition in support of the DFNS. The geopolitics behind this all are numbing but basically:

-Russians move back into base (gas station) in al-Arimah, west Manbij.

-SAA invited back to western Manbij villages.

-U.S. and French troops still patrolling Sajur River and Manbij city.

-U.S. still using observation posts and conducting airstrikes against daesh in the MERV.

-SDC/Moscow talks in session.

-SDF/SAA cooperation is now heavily discussed.

-Turkey threatening to invade still; jihadists reinforcements have arrived in numbers.

Despite all this, not a single U.S. soldier has left the DFNS yet. It'll only get weirder from here, place your bets now.


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Turkish-backed militia continue to arrive in the vicinity of Manbij district


#Turkey along with #Russia and #Iran to cooperate on #Syria, says t*rkish FM #Cavusoglu in Moscow.


A t*rkish government aircraft carrying the t*rkish delegation consisting of t*rkish Defense, Foreign Ministers, Intelligence Chief and Presidency aide heading to Moscow for talks with the Russians over Syria issue.



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Reports are that TFSA jihadists are slowly being withdrawn. Rumors also have it that SDC/Moscow talks went well plus that backpedal with Trump.

Whatever is happening, the jihadists are pissed and in Dadat, near Manbij, commanders expressed their anger with the t*rks.


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>A-any day now, fellow jiha- I mean freedom fighters!





Are we allowed back on leftypol or is all this still literal American imperialism?


is volunteering still a possibility? What's the development with international volunteers been like?


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They're so out of touch with the reality on the ground, it's not worth it. They still think it's 2015 and Assad himself is gonna march on Raqqa, not that reconciliation talks have been happening for months and a deal is one Trump tweet away.


International Volunteers have slowed to a snail's pace but those on the ground are still very active. The SDF (YPG and anarchist brigades specifically) don't need anymore soldiers, they need non-combat personal like teachers and computer specialists to further the revolution…but their email link still works. I don't have it but lurk around their sites long enough and you can probably find the form and everything.

Internationalist Commune of Rojavâ:


People's Protection Units YPG contact:



A new documentary series on international volunteers in Rojava:




The real question is why would we want to go back? /leftypol/ is infested with the dumb tankies who think their internet stances are vital in the fight against imperialism and that they'll be the vanguard of the revolution with their ten man party. Whatever the board was it is something much different today.


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>a deal is one Trump tweet away

Sometimes I forget how far we've strayed from what was once considered "normal"



>Donald Trump tweets

>Russia, the Gulf States, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and France enter an alliance to protect people who googled Bookchin

Imagine trying to explain this to someone in 2015



The Make Rojava Green Again project could always use help. The ecological pillar of the Rojava revolution has always had to take the back seat to radical democracy and feminism because of the precarious political circumstances, but the terrorized landscape of Kurdistan is in desperate need of restoration efforts and sustainable management of natural resources. The Int. Commune published a book about the project a few months ago if you want a primer on the issues they face and their efforts so far to remedy them.



>Russian military police have occupied "former positions of US special forces" in Manbij area of north Syria.

<Rojava is literally a US imperialist puppet state

Leftypol… not even once



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But now they're Russian imperialist puppets. We don't like rojäva here, just get with the program.


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To be fair, the Russians were in al-Arimah in 2016, they just came back after the whole withdrawal thing. But yes the hypocrisy is insane


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New anglophone anarchist group set up in Rojava after the disbanding of the IRPGF last September.


A Danish fighting group has also been set up in Rojava




>inb4 some tankie calls them imperialist because one of their members is a burger vet


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communists are just butthurt because it's anarchists after anarchists in Rojava, waving black and red flags, calling themselves antifa. Online M-Ls hate that shit, because they want to LARP about constructing some glorious socialist state with a USSR aesthetic, while 'anarkiddies' are out there fighting fascists and building socialism.

Pure jealousy.


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The funny thing is that there are a shit ton of Marxist-Leninist groups in Syria, none of which are burgers. After Kobanî, Rojavâ and the former DFNS became a melting pot of internationalists. There was even Social Insurrection, a green anarchist group from t*rkey. Burger MLs only gripe with the revolution is the US military support. That's it. I have never heard a critique of it's economy almost entirely democratizated nor political system.



Gilles Dauve is still alive?



Yes, and he is still a negationist DGSI spook.


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Four American soldiers and 10 civilians confirmed to have been killed in Manbij city after an ISIS bombing.



>The commander of Kurdish led-forces in Syria tells… he sent a delegation to Moscow about a week after Trump’s announcement. “I can assure you Russia is happy to fill the void left by the American military withdrawal,” he said.


>[ The head of the Diplomatic Committee of TEV-DEM]: “We have asked the US to make the safe zone issue clear. If this safe zone is under the t*rkish supervision, we won’t accept it. We accept a safe zone only under the supervision of the United Nations & Anti-IS-Coalition. t*rkey is a threat to the region”



The SDC have reached out to the Syrian Government again with a 10 point agenda for discussion about the future integration of Syria.


The points are:

1.Unity of the Syrian land

2. The system in Syria is a democratic republic, and Autonomous Administration is part of this system.

3. Autonomous Administrations have representatives in parliament in the center of Damascus, through their representatives.

4. Along with the Syrian flag, there should be flags representing Autonomous Administrations.

5. Diplomacy in the areas of Autonomous Administrations does not go contrary to the interests of the Syrian people and constitution.

6. Syrian Democratic Forces are part of the Syrian army, which is responsible for protecting the Syrian border.

7. The Internal Security Forces in the areas of Autonomous Administration operate according to the local councils in a manner that does not contradict with the Syrian constitution.

8. Learning in the mother tongue is the basis of education in the areas of Autonomous Administration, and Arabic is the official language throughout Syria.

9. In Autonomous Administration areas, education in local languages is taught in faculties of history, culture, languages, literature and the like.

10. Distributing the Syrian wealth to the Syrian regions in a fair manner.



Where is the video of Nasrallah with subtitles from? I found the original speech but it is untranslated.


>Russian media writes that the military operation of the Syrian army to return Idlib (fully or partially) under government control is basically a done deal. t*rkey will likely give green light.

>Question is only about parameters of the operation and what t*rks will get in return

> The media piece further suggests that Moscow would be willing to accept a buffer zone at the t*rkish-Syrian border in the North-East that is 5km deep (rather than the 32km Ankara wants).

>there could be a deal: Damascus’s consent to a Northern t*rkish buffer zone in exchange for the gradual return of the rest of the country to the control of the Syrian government. The first "test case" would be Idlib.


I really hope this is all bullshit. It is concerning nonetheless.



The t*rkish army is losing so many men and money is Afrin, that there’s no way that they will come out well from this if they try.


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Nice! I made that gif.


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What is /rg/'s opinion on the Idlib infighting that happened at the start of this month? Did you guys support HTS or the NLF? Just curious to hear your opinion.

Over at /sg/, we supported HTS because it would be more difficult for the West / t*rkey to find an excuse to stop Assad from retaking the area if they were in control.



Same as the /sg/ position really. The biggest threat to Syrian unity at this point is t*rkey and the NLF is really just the TFSA of Idlib. As you said; having HTS in control gives the Syrian Gov a justifiable reason to break the ceasefire agreements protecting the Idlib terrorists. If the SAA takes Idlib province then t*rkey and its proxies will be on its last legs in Syria.

Also thanks for stopping by /sg/.


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>Where is the video of Nasrallah with subtitles from?

The translation of that part is from here:


I made the webm of that section with subtitles.



Super, many thanks!


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Supporting right-wing dictatorships over an actual leftist revolution



the DFNS actively condemns Israeli apartheid all the time.

Of course Israel wants a Kurdish state to undermine Iran doesn't prove shit about the DFNS.


>Russian Director of the Information and Press Department, Maria Zakharova:

>Moscow has always considered and continues to consider Kurds as an integral part of the Syrian nation. Therefore, we firmly support the start of dialogue between the Kurds and the Syrian government in Damascus



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The DFNS has changed its name to the Autonomous Administration of North and East Syria. This happened a while ago and is part of the negotiations with Damascus, focusing on SDF controlled territory instead of the federalization of all Syria.



So they are doing well. Nice.


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Pretty well overall, yeah. Once the camp at Baghouz is taken and the foreign fighters and their families are deported/prosecuted, greater attention is going to be put on the sleeper cells. Talks with Damascus are slow, but promising as both sides are now more willing to compromise completely by their own merit and totally not because the US and Russia are warming relations. Quality of life is returning, pic is of Raqqa


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Bellingcat did an article on the insurgency in Afrin:


Painstakingly detailed reports of every claim, photo, and video to come out of Afrin since the summer of 2018.



im sure they would if other left nations actually existed


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For that one anon that was spamming "Popular Resistance of Raqqa" memes: another successful action has taken place against the SDF. Absolutely devastating sticky note attack on (allegedly) the Intelligence Center in Raqqa




Not Kurdish, not a state


In a region composed of bronze-age theocratic warlords? Yeah, feminism is still genuinely necessary there.



>feminist idpol

you are talking about people in a place where women are stoned to death for adultery.


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It's genuinely necessary everywhere.



Your cover was blown.


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An IED targeted a car of communist MLKP fighters in Rojava, killing a commander and injuring others.



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Can i get a quick rundown on the Syrian and Kurdish relations currently? Both are under attack by t*rkish forces so logically they are natural allies.


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It's uncertain. One one hand Rojava has renamed themselves the 'Autonomous Administration of North and East Syria' to signal their ambitions for integration and federalisation and had cooperated with both Iraq and Syria during the final assault on ISIS in Baghuz Fawqani.

At the moment Rojava has made repetitive and continuous calls to Damascus for dialogue which has gone unanswered or slight but important progress has been made. Regardless, future dialogue is still very much on the table.

Most notably, after the last incident of t*rkish aggression in light of the Americans withdrawing; Russia and the SAA/NDF were allowed to station themselves in SDF controlled areas West of Manbij and still cooperate in Tel Rifat.

Just ctrl+F for 'Damascus' and 'Syrian gov' in this thread if you want further highlights.

So in short; uncertain, slightly uneasy but still quite hopeful.


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So what the hell happened to these guys? Are they still autonomous?


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It seems they were more interested in larping as the 2000s Iraqi resistance than anything else.


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They not really autonomous to the extent they were in 2016/17. After the PKK (for the most part) and later the Peshmerga withdrew the region has been mostly under Baghdad control with their own loyalist Yezidi militia.

Though YBSh and PKK influence is still strong in the region with clashes last month between Iraq and the YBSh over control in Shingal.

So in short it is a bit unclear.


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On the 104th anniversary of the Armenian genocide and in conjunction with the IFB; the Armenians of Rojava have set up a fighting force named the Nubar Ozanyan Brigade, which is named after the Communist TIKKO commander who was martyred in Raqqa back in 2017. Ozanyan, an ethnic Armenian born in t*rkey has fought in 5 different conflicts including the Artsakh war against Azerbaijan.





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The t*rkish Army and the TFSA temporarily took three villages north of Tel Rifaat but were forced to retreat after heavy artillery bombardment by the defending SDF. 2 t*rkish soldiers and 3 TFSA proxies have been confirmed to have been killed as well as a t*rkish armoured car destroyed during the offensive.

It is unclear if the Russian and NDF/SAA forces in the area were in any way involved but Russian and t*rkish officials are currently in dialogue on the situation.








What is your view on Badmouse's criticisms?



Misleading and unsourced. Socialist Kurd already has summed up what is wrong with BadMouse's views;


Also the issue of the education reforms (which was settled between the two parties in the end, so not much of an ethnic persecution) has also been addressed on this thread;



In short, BadMouse misrepresents the education reforms and massively over-simplifies the issue. He presents the issue as Kurdish persecution of the Assyrians when this is actually more of inter-Assyrian issue that heavily involves both the Arabs of Damascus and the Kurds of Rojava. His video is unsourced, in that he claims that Kurds and appropriating land and that the dawronoye (left-wing Assyrians) organisations are somehow not Assyrian but secretly Kurdish and Arab.

I might actually reach out to BM directly to ask him for his thoughts on such criticisms or even back some sort of developed response because I have encountered these arguments before and 99% of the time it comes from either pro-Assad or right-wing Assyrians making BS arguments to fit their idea of a Kurdish conspiracy to ethnically cleanse them, hence their dismissal of pro-TEVDEM dawronoye organisations.


Newfag here…

why does /leftypol/ hate Kurds so much?



They had air support from the USA against Daesh. They did not like this since for them leftism means hating AmeriKKKa and nothing else.



>I send BadMouse a PM of a bunch of questions that heavily scrutinised his new video were he is talking about the Assyrians in Rojava

>I accuse him of spreading misinformation and using poor sources

>Less than 6 hours later he announces he will be taking a break from YouTube and Twitter for the foreseeable future

>He hasn't recently had any criticism for any of his videos other than Kurdish Socialist and myself

>Feedback on his new video was overwhelmingly positive

>He also hasn't had any recent arguments or disputes with anyone on twitter nor on YouTube

>His break is completely out of nowhere, just after making a successful video

This is probably just a coincidence but I think it is a funny observation nonetheless.

And he still hasn't responded to my PM.



Maybe he will actually open a book about anarchism this time?


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There was a time when we had Rojava Generals on /leftypol/ filled with its supporters coupled with an occasional tankie. As time passed and the Kurd grew closer to the US, Rojava supporters came under more criticism, but they still weren't outnumbered. Unfortunately one of those critiques was the Board Owner, who took action against them culminating in bans. This of course sparked huge outrage, with 75% of people being against the ban policy according to a poll. In the debate threads BO said that he/she/xir wants people who don't like the permabans to fuck off among other things which showed everyone that the old /leftypol/ is dead.

So basically lot of the people who would speak favourably about the Kurds left or got a permaban in the ass.



Rojava thread over on leftypol. It is really cancerous but hopefully it can get better.

You can avoid the wordfilter by copy-and-pasting

' Rоjava '

as it uses the Russian 'o'.


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Imprisoned ISIS emir reveals how the Islamic State and t*rkey collaborated together. He stated how ISIS voluntarily withdrew and handed Jarablus over the t*rkey after a deal was struck along with details of the negotiations with t*rkey concerning the Suleyman Shah tomb.

The emir has agreed to testify as a witness in an international court concerning these relations.


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