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File: 908b3b0f9b5f887⋯.png (447.95 KB, 822x462, 137:77, jordan-peterson-slavoj-ziz….png)

 No.140107

I am not a left-leaning person at all, but I am here to ask about something.

After yesterday's Zizek vs JP debate, Zizek mentioned how there is no influence of cultural Marxism in the contemporary world. This got me thinking, what is it that we are observing right now of PC culture then if Zizek thinks it is not cultural Marxism?

A quick Google search says that cultural Marxism is a revolutionary leftist idea that traditional culture is the source of oppression in the modern world, which seems to be inline of what the right describes as leftists creating a parallel of class warfare in identity politics. However, I found this to be very one-sided, so that's why I am here to ask you guys, what do you believe cultural Marxism is? How influential is it in the modern world? How does it relate to individual freedoms? Do you even think individual freedom like freedom of speech to be necessary? I define freedom of speech as having no legal consequences from speech, with the opposite being any form of a secular or not version of blasphemy laws.

I know that cultural Marxism has nothing to do with the concept of class warfare that Marx expresses, but the reason Marxism is linked is because of how it mirrors the class warfare struggle with expressing culture as oppressed vs oppressor.

 No.140109

Cultural marxist is the same cultural bolshevism that the nazis spoke of, it's not real, it's a boogeyman that scares the masses claiming it'll hurt them but even if it was real it'll hurt the ruling classes first so part of it's function is making poor people think they have a privilege to lose and that's a really dangerous lie..

The cultural wars that we see today are the internal conflicts of the ruling class, the ruling class is trying to sort out how to address suffering of the working class without losing their control of them, these culture wars are debates of what are poor people allowed and disallowed inside the rule of the rich and not real conflicts in our society.


 No.140111

>This got me thinking, what is it that we are observing right now of PC culture then if Zizek thinks it is not cultural Marxism?

What are we observing? Describe it; break it down into its component parts. Once you do that, its nature quickly becomes clear.

>A quick Google search says that cultural Marxism is a revolutionary leftist idea that traditional culture is the source of oppression in the modern world, which seems to be inline of what the right describes as leftists creating a parallel of class warfare in identity politics.

A quick Google search says that "cultural marxism" is a conspiracy theory created by kooks who worship some imaginary Western identity. That sounds about right.


 No.140113

If there are several red lights on your way to work, it's cultural Marxism. If your girlfriend cheats on you, she's a cultural Marxist. If your shoes gives you blisters, they were made by cultural Marxists. If your penis is small, your mom was a cultural Marxist.


 No.140120

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"Cultural Marxism" is an oxymoron.

PC culture is a symptom of bourgeois ideology which assumes that the capitalist system itself is the best thing in the universe and we just need to fix some inequalities within the system for it to be perfect. It serves to distract the working class and deviates their attention from the base structural problems of capitalism to its symptoms instead, for as long as the people are distracted with bullshit non-sense the bourgeois don't have to fear anything. Keep in mind for instance that murrican colleges get generous donations from bourgeois people all the time and they get to influence what gets taught and obviously they'll protect their class interests and one very effective way of doing so is to turn "leftism" into the fucking joke it has become especially in first world nations, so as to turn people away from it to the point where the people will even go against their own self interests out of despise for the madness they see.


 No.140125

>>140109

>SJWism doesn't exist

hahaha fuck off back to Twitter radlib.

>>140120

Thanks for posting the pics.


 No.140126

It's a spooky straw man invented by the John Birch Society in order to smear their more-numerous progressive liberal opponents as having some relation to subversive communists (who were themselves to all be viewed at tools of a foreign state). Marx hated identity politics and expelled feminists and "anti-racists" from the 1st International precisely because they were putting too much evidence on that stuff over class struggle. The word and concept is utter nonsense.


 No.140127

>it mirrors the class warfare struggle with expressing culture as oppressed vs oppressor.

Class war: bosses are only so compelled to exploit workers by the capitalist system

Culture war: ?


 No.140128

>>140125

>Social Justice is "cultural marxism"

Kek. Catholic rightists invented social justice, and Protestants picked it up in the seventies. "Left" liberals coopted it in the eighties and nineties as they were selling organized labor up the river. Social Justice is like Obamacare: conservatards came up with it and only started hating it after the other half of the liberal spectacle decided that they needed it to disguise the fact that they were betraying their existing base. What exactly is "marxist" about any of that?


 No.140130

>>140128

Same can be said about "political correctness" btw

It was invented by conservatives and it is overwhelmingly done by conservatives. People just don't notice it anymore because they already got used to it conservatives doing it, it's not news.


 No.140131

political correctness is just corporations trying to avoid lawsuits. doesn't have anything to do with marxism.


 No.140135

Its neoliberalism/neoconservatism, its using corporatism to get some of the social aspects of communism (open borders, the destruction of identity, though that also includes class identity) so they can get rich and maintain power over the plebs.

>But to call yourself a Bolshevik

>Would fill the world with dread

>So please don't call me a commie

>Call me a neocon instead


 No.140169

>>140126

*putting too much emphasis on that stuff over class struggle


 No.140192

File: 3ec9fc4f8736721⋯.jpg (86.66 KB, 428x640, 107:160, pseud.jpg)

File: 49e1a9023fe58fe⋯.png (307.34 KB, 588x981, 196:327, CIA.png)

>>140120

This. Cultural "Marxism", postmodern critical theory, continental philosophy, antipositivism, social justice, and all the rest of the "New Left" sophist flimflam, was all supported and/or fabricated by NATO during the Cold War as a means of fighting the USSR abroad, and suppressing class conscious leftism domestically:

https://www.theawl.com/2015/08/literary-magazines-for-socialists-funded-by-the-cia-ranked/

>The centerpiece of the CIA’s effort to organize the efforts of anti-Communist artists and intellectuals was the Congress for Cultural Freedom. Established in 1950 and headquartered in Paris, the CCF brought together prominent thinkers under the rubric of anti-totalitarianism. For the CIA, it was an opportunity to guarantee that anti-Communist ideas were not voiced only by reactionary speakers; most of the CCF’s members were liberals or socialists of the anti-Communist variety.

http://thephilosophicalsalon.com/the-cia-reads-french-theory-on-the-intellectual-labor-of-dismantling-the-cultural-left/

>More specifically, the undercover cultural warriors applaud what they see as a double movement that has contributed to the intelligentsia shifting its critical focus away from the US and toward the USSR. On the left, there was a gradual intellectual disaffection with Stalinism and Marxism, a progressive withdrawal of radical intellectuals from public debate, and a theoretical move away from socialism and the socialist party. Further to the right, the ideological opportunists referred to as the New Philosophers and the New Right intellectuals launched a high-profile media smear campaign against Marxism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Marcuse#World_War_II

>In March 1943, Marcuse joined his fellow Frankfurt School scholar Franz Neumann in R8cA's Central European Section as senior analyst and rapidly established himself as "the leading analyst on Germany.

>After the dissolution of the OSS in 1945, Marcuse was employed by the U.S. Department of State as head of the Central European section, retiring after the death of his first wife in 1951.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/modern-art-was-cia-weapon-1578808.html

>For decades in art circles it was either a rumour or a joke, but now it is confirmed as a fact. The Central Intelligence Agency used American modern art - including the works of such artists as Jackson Pollock, Robert Motherwell, Willem de Kooning and Mark Rothko - as a weapon in the Cold War.

And modern/postmodern "art" of course, was the perfect commercialized yet "counterculture" vehicle for:

http://www.mileswmathis.com/launder.pdf

>Because there are few widows and orphans in the art market, there appears to be little need or public outcry to fix the system. Who is hurt? Nobody but artists who fail to willingly or adroitly play the game. And, perhaps, the culture itself, surrendering art to drug lords, oligarchs, money launderers and international vulgarians, and forcing the rest of us to admire what we might, given more rational values, disdain.

http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readarticle.aspx?artid=14085

>In 1971, a group of feminists approached Ford president McGeorge Bundy with a request to involve itself in the feminist movement the way it had in the Civil Rights movement, essentially, creating it out of whole cloth. The result of those early discussions was a full-fledged women’s project to fund the small number of existing women’s advocacy organizations, and also to create a whole new field within academia known as “women’s studies.”

And the Ford Foundation is, of course, a front for…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Foundation#Relationship_with_the_United_States

>The foundation was accused of being funded by the US government. John J. McCloy, the foundation's chairman from 1958–1965, knowingly employed numerous agents and, based on the premise that a relationship with the CIA was inevitable, set up a three-person committee responsible for dealing with its requests.

http://www.wrongkindofgreen.org/2012/05/01/black-feminism-the-cia-and-gloria-steinem/

>In 1958, Steinem was recruited by CIA’s Cord Meyers to direct the “informal group of activists” now called the “Independent Research Service.” This was part of Meyer’s “Congress for Cultural Freedom,” which created magazines like “Encounter” and “Partisan Review” to promote a left-liberal chic to oppose Marxism.

>>140130

Actually, the term "political correctness", much like "SJW", was coined by leftists as an insult for unprincipled bootlicking groupthinkers in what would later become Bolshevism.


 No.140199

>>140107

Cultural Marxism isn't even a thing. What we are witnessing is people being distracted by idpol so they ignore the class struggle.


 No.140204

>>140107

>what is it that we are observing right now of PC culture then if Zizek thinks it is not cultural Marxism

neoliberal capitalism facing its material contradictions

Selected Works of Mao Tse-tung

ON CONTRADICTION

https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-1/mswv1_17.htm

Lawrence Wilde (1991)

Logic: Dialectic and contradiction

https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/en/wilde1.htm


 No.140208

File: 152f439fd75c593⋯.jpg (110.51 KB, 750x941, 750:941, left_vs_right.jpg)

>>140107

>what do you believe cultural Marxism is?

It's not what we, particularily, believe. It's what it empirically is: liberalism. Identity politics is liberalism 1.01. It's a way to divide and conquer the working class, creating meaningless sub-groups (be it white nationalists, black nationalists, LGBT groups, etc) to pit against each other. This goes against the principles of dialectical materialism and class warfare, which dictates that classisim is the main form of oppression that other -isms latch upon.

Ever notice how identity politics, feminism and LGBT "struggles" are very first worldist and almost exclusively a focus on the anglo-sphere and anglo-sphere influenced countries? As a matter of fact, the old left (what we basically are on /leftpol/) was/is exclusively focused on class struggle, while the so called "new left" were merely liberals pissed off about american segregation; which of course was a bad thing, but they missed the forest for the trees: capitalism was the reason why slavery and segregation existed in the first place.

Identity politics is liberalism. Third wave feminists merely took identity politics to it's absurd and logical conclusion; gamergate merely paved the way for /pol/niggers to go mainstream.

>How influential is it in the modern world?

Given how ridiculously invasive and disgustingly influential the US is, way too influential. Ever wondered why communist countries (venezuela, cuba, north korea) or non anglo-influenced ones (iran, morocco, etc) gives little fucks about idpol? Capitalism cannot be separated from idpol; capitalism created it to subvert the working class with great success. Nothing scares the rich more than class unity.

Idpol = bourgeois ideology that goes against working class ideology and struggles.

>How does it relate to individual freedoms?

Exacly the way it was intended: I got mine, fuck you. Communism demands collective action against the system that oppresses the collective (working class): capitalism. Idpol demands action against a particular individual problems. Both the so called "identitarians" (white nationalists) and SJWs practice identity politics, just mirrored versions of it.

>Do you even think individual freedom like freedom of speech to be necessary? I define freedom of speech as having no legal consequences from speech, with the opposite being any form of a secular or not version of blasphemy laws.

This is more of my own personal opinion; I don´t speak for /leftpol/, or even the anti-idpol left: Free speech is ok, but freedom from consequences is not granted.

What do I mean with this? It doesn't mean there should be legislation or a body of authority that regulates free speech to protect so called "marginalized" or "minority" groups. What I mean is, if you call a black guy a nigger, no one will stop you from doing so; just don't expect said black guy won't punch you in the face or beat the living shit out of you.

Use common sense. You can't always get away with everything you say. Just because you can, it problably doesn't mean you should, so use your brain.

Long-story-short: So called "cultural marxism" should actually be called "cultural liberalism", because that's what it is. Never take /pol/nigger's opinions/nomenclatures as the be all, end all of philosophy and politics. They came up with a bunch of retarded shit, because they are complete subhuman morons.


 No.140209

>>140208

>What do I mean with this? It doesn't mean there should be legislation or a body of authority that regulates free speech to protect so called "marginalized" or "minority" groups. What I mean is, if you call a black guy a nigger, no one will stop you from doing so; just don't expect said black guy won't punch you in the face or beat the living shit out of you.

Agreed with the rest of your post, but even granting your softer position on censorship, this is more than a little disingenuous. What you're talking about has little to do with the content of expression (saying "nigger"), and more to do with non-expressive actions accessory to that expression (physically accosting someone in the street and menacing them).

Moreover, the current furor over censorship isn't typified by individuals personally reacting to each other, but goliath corporations and government agencies abusing their tyrannical grasp over communication networks and their underlying technology to reach down and crush wrongthink, while exploiting this to justify yet further overreach and the infrastructural centralization that allows it.


 No.140213

File: 6c0427d7c24fa25⋯.png (167.75 KB, 500x704, 125:176, culturalmarxism.png)

File: ccd63d06bcfdc27⋯.gif (940.02 KB, 1600x1088, 25:17, congressforculturalfreedom.gif)

>>140107

>when you accuse the frankfurt school of doing what the congress for cultural freedom actually did


 No.140214

File: 464782bb381d0dd⋯.jpg (110.21 KB, 500x369, 500:369, trustception_c_6701477.jpg)

>>140213

Frankfurt School's word salad eaters were among those pushed in academia by the CCF, tho.


 No.140232

>>140208

>venezuela, cuba, north korea

>communist countries


 No.140234

File: d168ba4e0848b35⋯.pdf (2.46 MB, Adorno - Freudian Theory a….pdf)

File: 008fab73cdb1d83⋯.pdf (4.81 MB, Marcuse - The Struggle Aga….pdf)

Here are some actual pdfs of work by the frankfurt school, if you read them you would realize they are not some group of multi-colored hair freaks but in fact have some interesting things to say.


 No.140240

>>140120

>Keep in mind for instance that murrican colleges get generous donations from bourgeois people all the time and they get to influence what gets taught

By the way this is the same reason why George Soros fund a bunch of insane "leftist" bullshit, it's funny that people see this but they fail to realize the real reasons behind it, when /pol/ calls Soros and other porkies Marxist for their actions they are basically doing exactly what the porkies want them to do, it's right in front of their noses but being the illiterate retards they are they fall prey to the porkies game.


 No.140241

>>140208

>communist countries (venezuela, cuba, north korea)

back to >>>/leftypol/ tankuck


 No.140279

>>140107

>A quick Google search says that cultural Marxism is a revolutionary leftist idea that traditional culture is the source of oppression in the modern world,

Back in 2014, you were considered an anti semite for saying Cultural Marxism existed.


 No.140304

File: 724b9ea19a7fe81⋯.jpg (185.95 KB, 1600x694, 800:347, anti-white leftypol.jpg)

>>140213

That doesn't change that they funded your world view though, on what points do you actually disagree with Chomsky or articles like the "Unpacking The Invisible Knapsack"?

https://www.nationalseedproject.org/Key-SEED-Texts/white-privilege-unpacking-the-invisible-knapsack

The neocons and the CCF lead projects like making the Notre Dame Cathedral roof into post-modern bile, how do you always end up on their side on every issue? Have you ever head a thought the CIA didn't pay to put into the cultural zeigeist?


 No.140306

>>140304

>anti-white

Back to >>>/pol/ with your idpol.


 No.140376

>>140304

>That doesn't change that they funded your world view though

That is exactly what it does, you half-wit.


 No.140391

>>140306

Yeah, fuck off Jew. Your anti-white shit isn’t gonna fly here anymore


 No.140396

>>140391

waaah waaah my hwites!


 No.140401

>>140396

>Jewish mocking

Not gonna work


 No.140403

File: 234a66cc63da3b4⋯.jpg (23.26 KB, 368x475, 368:475, 7df.jpg)


 No.140408

>>140405

Wow you called me a jew, guess it's over for me.


 No.140426

File: 1c4f7445810a2a7⋯.webm (4.68 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Social "science".webm)

>>140304

>Chomsky or articles like the "Unpacking The Invisible Knapsack"?

WTF does Chomsky have to do with racist postmodern drivel like that?


 No.140595

>>140107

>Marxism is linked is because of how it mirrors the class warfare struggle with expressing culture as oppressed vs oppressor

Not only is this not an accurate description of how Marxism views class conflict but the view of society as having oppressors and oppressed comes from Republican classical liberals in the 18th century.

The SJWs and their worldview are a product of the kids that were a part of 1960s American social justice activism.


 No.140601

File: 69f102c2a33fcaf⋯.jpg (181.59 KB, 452x680, 113:170, TheoryofJustice.jpg)

>>140595

>The SJWs and their worldview are a product of the kids that were a part of 1960s American social justice activism.

No, they're not. They are the product of jesuit theologians and protestant charletans.


 No.140602

>>140595

>da capitalists are keeping us workers down

>the white man is keepin’ us down

It’s the same thing except that Jews have more intelligence and can make it sound intellectual


 No.140613

>>140602

>da capitalists are keeping us workers down

Not what socialism says. Capitalism is keeping everyone down, because it imposes a sociopathic class distinction on all of us. Capitalists get the better end of it, but much like prior class systems such as feudal nobility or theocratic castes, it places pointless expectations on them as well. Much as capitalism helped society by eliminating many past socioeconomic classes, socialism aims to complete this process by freeing us from the final two remaining classes.

>>140601

It's a bit of each, also of antipositivist/romanticist pseuds that (with some amplification by the CIA, as has been noted upthread) resulted in the masturbatory PoMo sandpit of continental theory by the 1950s.


 No.140633

File: e948d7fbee93acf⋯.jpg (65.28 KB, 769x635, 769:635, 6fe213c2a924564a8987ade0ae….jpg)

>>140613

>implying many of the french post structuralists weren't critical of identity essentialism


 No.140634

File: 9b4fe632bae73fc⋯.png (200 KB, 2400x747, 800:249, ME_230_CriticalTheory.png)

>>140633

>implying any of the sophist liturgical masturbators actually held coherent positions other than "give me tenure track, journal space, speaking engagements, and book deals."


 No.140638

>>140613

You’re just mad you’re not a porky. Jealous much?


 No.140644

>>140613

Social justice is not even PoMo. It is every bit the "grand narrative" that continental philosophers claim to repudiate. None the less, it gets peddled in the very same humanities departments that push Foucault, Derrida, and the like.


 No.140645

>>140638

That comeback is so weak that it aspires to be argumentum ad hominem.


 No.140648

>>140645

I don’t speak Latin, retard


 No.140671

File: 029e9abd8977d01⋯.jpg (48.42 KB, 598x797, 598:797, JaJa.jpg)

>>140648

Atthay ademay eemay igglegay.


 No.140673

File: c7bb4941c906977⋯.png (293.45 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, Magenta Magenta.png)

>>140648

Wow, quod antiquo ex inculta hominum fasciculum, Ego sum iustum fellas?


 No.144973

>>140304

Lol, which thread is that pic from? looks fake


 No.144990

>>140234

UNABLE TO OPEN DOCUMENT PDF DAMAGED

FUCK OUTTA HERE WITH THIS POZZED SHIT


 No.144996

File: 6f149c178a4143c⋯.jpeg (23.17 KB, 621x544, 621:544, you my-little-pony6-61216….jpeg)

>>140403

>the Capitalist deflects

Just confess your crimes and repent schlomo.


 No.144997

>>140403

>Jew can never do any wrong and when you point it out it is le anti-semitism

No surprise that tankies love Jews


 No.145013

>>144997

>implying

Trankies are the most 'pissrael raycis an alwez baad' group out there


 No.145015

File: e434c16bba2d894⋯.jpg (205.14 KB, 993x588, 331:196, perec1961.JPG)

>>144997

>tankies

>love jews

top kek

>>145013

Are you saying Israheil isn't racist?


 No.145017

>>140304

dude, dat picture is fake

there are no posts like this in Notre Dame threads

just check /leftypol/ archive


 No.145019

>>145017

8chan doesn't archive every thread only a specific few I believe, I'm not entirely sure but it might be hand picked by the mods which is why you should rely on archive sites.


 No.145028

>>145013

>hating Israel is always anti-semitic

Boomer tier


 No.145038

>>140107

Of course the commies are going to deny cultural marxism, it is our attack phrase, and it describes them perfectly. While you will see people disparage identity politics here, at no point or on any actual policy will they actually disagree with the intersectional socialists or progressive. The only criticism of specific policy will be something a long the lines of them not going far enough, or it's not communism.

>>140120

case in point


 No.145042

File: d58fcd6383ea157⋯.png (186.4 KB, 1680x1646, 840:823, Base-superstructure_Dialec….png)

>>145038

There is a tendency to simply deny that the left has been infiltrated by these people, or to use the falsehood of the Nazi-concocted "cultural Bolshevism" conspiracy theory to deflect from the fact that some PoMos called themselves "cultural Marxists", but this in no way detracts from the fact that such people are fundamentally at odds with core positions of leftism, socialism, and also specifically Marxism. Not to mention the fact, as pointed out upthread, that cultural "Marxism" was promoted and largely constructed by the CIA and other NATO spooks as part of a Cold War effort to undermine the USSR and disrupt NATO's domestic leftists.

Indeed, I could very well use the same broad brush to tar the activities of neonazis as linked at the hip with baptist Christard fundies and neocons that pour propaganda, money, weapons, and American/European troops into the dumpster fire of Israeli militarism and the Saudi monarchy's Wahhabism, and be far more accurate in many instances.

>at no point or on any actual policy will they actually disagree with the intersectional socialists or progressive

We disagree about absolutely everything concrete, from their attempts to discriminate on the basis of race and sex ("positively" or otherwise), to attempts at whitewashing (lel) various PC identities as beyond reproach, as pointless at best and regressive sabotage at worst. And most of all, we disagree with them, just like we disagree with the aut-right and other neofash, for emphasizing particularist and typically moralist obsession with strictly superstructural issues (cishethuwitemales, da juice, etc.) rather than coolheaded systemic analysis of basic issues from which those arise (the capitalist mode of production, class dichotomy).


 No.145043

File: 37d7968fb6203b9⋯.jpg (63.59 KB, 750x602, 375:301, Purged.jpg)

>>145038

>and it describes them perfectly

How about you read a fucking book you dumb illiterate nigger?

How about you learn what you are talking about from the sources once in your life instead of getting your knowledge from youtube videos for kids?


 No.145045

>>145043

Name 3 books that you have read.


 No.145051

>>140107

>>140107

>A quick Google search says that cultural Marxism is a revolutionary leftist idea that traditional culture is the source of oppression in the modern world, which seems to be inline of what the right describes as leftists creating a parallel of class warfare in identity politics

Traditional culture isn't oppresive in on itself, unless it manages to acquire a power structure through artificial hierarchies. Feminists and SJWs merely want to replace traditional values with so called "progressive" values, while retaining the very same coercive aspects of the system that enshrines them (capitalism).

Regarding Jordan Peterson's "war on masculinity": There IS a war on masculinity, but this is only possible because of capitalism. Feminists are exploiting capitalism to become the oppressors themselves. The concept of feminism is to empower women, faggots and soyboys and oppress everybody else. Without capitalism, feminism and idpol would crumble inmediately.

When was the last time communist states embraced faggotry and political correctness? There's nothing manlier than being a communist and standing for yourself against capitalist hierarchies, whether christian right or SJW "left".

Tl;dr: Wanna get rid of femishits and SJW faggots? Get rid of capitalism and all their chimp outs will be meaningless.


 No.145058

>>145045

>muh books

Fuck off intellectual. Class-struggle is as evident as can be. People here masturbate over theory and books when all of this can really be learned through direct experience – zero reading required. The fact that they require their hallowed Marxist tomes shows how disconnected they truly are from the struggles of the proletariat as they actually are.


 No.145076

>>144996

you're pretending to be retarded, right?

>>145013

They only care about jews when they can play up the 4th Reich/Germany looking to lose another World War narrative

>>145015

>criticizing Tankies for screeching about Israel when said screeching furthers Eurasia's imperial ambitions, means you're defending everything Israel does

I can actually criticize both, it's super cool since it increases the efficiency of my dickishness massively.

>>145038

>muh intersectionalism

read the FAQ, baboon


 No.145082

>>145019

Yeah, but look on the numbers of the posts and look on the number of the newest posts on leftypol.

The posts on the picture have numbers like 6462832

but the newest leftypol posts have like 2915067


 No.145133

>>145058

It's correct to say your average Joe won't usually give a shit about reading theory, but if someone places himself very firmly in the revolutionary camp, then he should read to clarify his views, learn from the past to avoid committing past errors and carry out a correct political program.

Of course, some shitty book by academic monkey containing a 200 pages long marxist analysis of farting in a crowded bus is worthless, but that's another issue.




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