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 No.136645

Why did this board die? Where did everyone go?

 No.136648

They went back to /leftyreddit/.

The majority of the leftists here accepted their support of authoritarianism.


 No.136650

Reading even more theory because, you should try that too OP.


 No.136651

>Why did this board die?

You let it.

Although from what I see it didn't die or drop in quality as bad as other boards have, it's just slowed down.

>Where did everyone go?

Presumably the real world more and more Anons just became bored and with no one willing to go to the remaining places where oldfags still go, very few are left in general.


 No.136652

>>136650

I do that already but I also want to discuss what I have read as logic is only socially formed in dialogue.


 No.136653

>>136648

And they should stay there


 No.136660

>>136648

I stuck this board out as long as I could but a couple months ago it was totally unusable.


 No.136671

It's not just this board, the entire site's dying

>people sick of mod rulecuckery and autism, BOs and mods of every major board are a fucking joke, many anons openly convinced they are debauched weirdos and/or working for the gobber mint, that or the BOs and mods are just rulecucked to the point that they're strangulating their boards by not allowing anons to post okayish content in a time of scarcity, 90% of them will instantly delete things they disagree with the politics of or that insult them personally, but will leave pizza up for hours and let spam wash good threads off the edge of the board

>transparency reports aren't, "hey guise the cops came here like a dozen times and asked me some stuff and I told them, t. Jim" doesn't exactly make people confident about posting their fetishes/politics/etc.

>bots and NPCposters rampant

>made worse by the fact that we're banned from Cuntland and Kiwiland, meaning we have either no or fewer night crew

>also fewer night crew posts and most of these are by Burger NEET squeakers

>also waves of newfaggotry, pigs and media buttpuppets whenever some edgemeister effortposts IRL

>newfags also show up whenever An Hiro or Leddit cucks out on something, causing post decline both from their newfaggotry and /pol/ trying to gatekeep their politics more than their understanding of boards

>summer is coming

>Burger elections poised to turn internet into another shitshow

>Cutlure Wars have claimed almost all franchises, celebs and e-celebs, leaving less to discuss and more to screech about

>half the boards have pretty much collapsed in terms of mod active effort, the absolute best will respond to reports but have no initiative on their own outside of protecting their and their opinions' lesse majeste, further driving down post quality and bugging out users who don't feel like playing russian roulette with pizza on threads, or having their effortposts buried under a hale of /pol/ image spam autism or spacedickschan.gov spam

>threads almost always derail into unrelated inanity that's usually the same few autists screeching the same shit at each other

>porn and anime are becoming semi-politicized, leading to the spectre of those becoming impossible or unfruitful to discuss them online

>people sick of playing Pigeon Chess with squeakers and senile boomers

>everywhere outside of Freedomstan you can be arrested for shitposting, and in Freedomstan you can if one of our many, many glow-in-the-dark agencies can torturously interpret it as a threat

>as Orwell mentions, good content isn't created in a censorship-heavy environment where everything has to conform to the group's political opinions and anything that could possibly be taken as going against that is screeched at

tl;dr this board is dying as part of a Cambrian-level event that is hitting the Internet


 No.136673

>>136671

Anon 8chan died a long time ago, it's just gradually getting infested with maggots eating it's corpse, what's worse it looks like soon the remaining sites oldfags left to will die out soon.

This will be the final generation. When we are gone so will everything else.

Best case scenario, imageboard successors arrive long after we die.


 No.136676

We're dead?


 No.136677

>>136671

I think the real tipping point for me, after the slow death of once-good board after once-good board due to BO autism and shitposters being too undisciplined to migrate en-mass in a prompt and decisive manner, was when the slow death of the most absolute dogshit board on the site aside from QBoomer, /pol/, was averted by the global mods breaking their own rules to reach down from the heavens and save stormniggers from their own autism by forcibly removing imkampfy, confirming once and for all that in the mods' opinion 8chan must remain /pol/chan at all costs.


 No.136679

mods are terrible across 8chan. looking for a new chan….anyone?


 No.136680

>>136677

shitpost are freedom. without freedom you are the cause of the problem. what you think is a shitpost is not one.


 No.136682

>>136680

"Shitposter" just means "anon". We are all shitposters.


 No.136687

File: f36424b5d8aaad1⋯.png (316.06 KB, 900x600, 3:2, 29f7869612d7567fdbe7587123….png)

>>136645

>Why did this board die?

Aside from 8chan as a whole dying? Not enough anons post, autism from those that do, and not much relevant or interesting discussion going on.

>Where did everyone go?

Off this site, probably off chans for good.


 No.136688

>>136645

To be honest I'd rather have it small and sane rather than large and full of fuckwits.

It is unfortunate that it is that way.


 No.136694

File: 207c8bd976dad56⋯.jpg (49.09 KB, 971x546, 971:546, Dmx4MA0UYAER5Ea-1.jpg)

I'm becoming more convinced by the day that 8chan and 4chan are the real NPCs. They sperg out over alternative opinions and new memes. They seem to strawman the recent generation for everything wrong with the Internet despite the fact they thmeselves are in a shit-flinging contest to be right.


 No.136711

>>136645

You can thank lazy-ass mods for allowing nazbolfaggots and tankieshits to fuck up the entire place. Before we got infested by those dipshits, we had a relatively interesting board for actual discussion about politics.


 No.136712

>>136694

Everyone is an npc bleep bloop honk honk


 No.136716

This board was never alive to begin with, I don't even remember we ever getting above 200 active ISPs.

After /leftypol/'s Body Odor betrayal around 98% of the leftists who used to post on 8ch just got up and leaved for good.


 No.136722

The biggest problem across the site for the past year or so (and oddly not as big an issue on this board) is a change in community attitude. Many anons have reached the mistaken conclusion that the cure for a slowing community is to go out of their fucking minds with quality control. Across a wide variety of boards, anon insists on being protected from shitposts, "template threads", harmful opinions, etc. If an OP doesn't feature a dissertation, well fuck it! No discussion for you! Anon would rather wallow around in their own elitist pretensions about being tasteful and intelligent than discuss anything at all.


 No.136726

File: a5fe9c28e8297d0⋯.jpg (59.87 KB, 700x530, 70:53, 1527624827.jpg)

This board is not worth anyone's time or energy anymore

Please come with me to www.leftist.site and let´s buold something better over there


 No.136728

>>136680

Exactly

>>136679

Mods are terrible in general


 No.136731

>>136726

It's not anonymous


 No.136736

>>136726

Leftist.site will either turn to revleft 2.0, /r/socialism 2.0, or will turn into /leftyb/ general.


 No.136768

>>136676

Not really.


 No.136774

>>136677

>global mods

Jim and Chodemonkey aren't just mods, newfriend

>breaking their own rules to reach down from the heavens and save stormniggers

They didn't do it to save them, they didn't give a shit when Imgoblin banned people for saying 'nigger.' They did it when Imgoblin b& Chodemonkey.

>from their own autism by forcibly removing imkampfy, confirming once and for all that in the mods' opinion 8chan must remain /pol/chan at all costs.

Arguable. I'm pretty sure Jim just wants shiny punts.

>>136679

lainchan might be usable for qualityposting but it's pretty dead I am searching for a new board if I find a good spot that will screen out the RIDF and Wu Mao, I'll try to let you guise know

>>136694

There are a lot of bots probably, but I think most of the shills on this board are flesh n blood.

>>136726

>looks like a board from 15 years ago

>putting leftist stuff on its own site where it's guaranteed anybody who wants to fuck with it won't piss off anybody else if they do, won't paint a huge target on that site for both autright skiddies and glow-in-the-darks

>NAMEFAGGOTRY

n-no thanks


 No.136776

Because tankies are useful idiot cointelpro roaders.


 No.136778

They finally fucked off to /trannypol/. The liberals are leaving, good riddance


 No.136810

>>136778

Constantly complaining about liberals is the surest way to out yourself as a red liberal.


 No.136843

In the past few months most threads had OP which consisted of a single question like "Why do right-wingers think X?" (despite the QTDDTOT thread) or poor jabs at feminism ("lol idpol xD"). The best reason to visit was the book club and it's now dead.


 No.136845

>>136843

It died three times over, it'll be back.


 No.136846

>>136810

cope harder libshit


 No.136858

>>136810

Libshit detected


 No.136995

Even /leftypol/ feels dead or maybe I am simply getting bored of it.


 No.136996

>>136736

>>136731

>>136751

>>136774

You can post anonymously on leftist.site

Just don't abuse it.


 No.137011

>>136843

>despite the QTDDTOT thread

see

>>136722

This idiocy is and always will be a discussion-killer.


 No.137015

for one thing this board believes Jews are white but Anglos are not

NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL SHITPOSTING. /LEFTPOL/'S HOTTEST HITS


 No.137017

>>137015

>for one thing this board believes Jews are white but Anglos are not

where's the lie?


 No.137019

>>137015

KEK Show me a scientific study that says that Jews belong to a different phenotype than other caucasoids.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race


 No.137057

File: 5c0565a3a4f20ff⋯.png (269.07 KB, 800x400, 2:1, leftpol users decline.png)

>Why did this board die?

Huh? This board's numbers have stayed the same for a while, our peak was only 200 when we first started up, whilst only maintaining 125-150 users thereafter. Which is a pretty good amount of user engagement considering how other boards of this site are faring. Sure we are not growing in size but we certainly are not "dying".

At least we aren't leftypol who lost 3/4 of their userbase and absolutely killed their growth due to BO's faggotry. So all things considered we are doing okay(ish) for a small board.


 No.137070

>>137057

This is not a capitalist enterprise, developing, or rather, preserving, the quantitative side alone will lead us nowhere.


 No.137099

>>136645

Image-boards have a few desirable traits. The most significant of these results

in the liberation of the individual from social norms. Despite how it might

seem individuals can speak more meaningfully and more authentically here than

they can anywhere else. Using bump and linear ordering rather than ``social

points'' and anonymous posting are the primary means that this is achieved.

These means have their downsides though, primarily in not addressing the issues

that started to be visible in the forums of the mid-2000's. The issue of

recruiting sane moderation willing to devote large amounts of their time for

free as the website scales, is the most substantial issue. This is the origin

of various schemes like the social points systems, and algorithmic moderation.

For me the question of making a great forum comes down to the question of how

you resolve the issues of the mid-2000's without ruining what makes

image-boards great i.e. how do you reduce moderation load and recruit new

moderators while retaining anonymous posting and sane ranking. I'm aware of

three proposals to do this, only one of which has been attempted: accounts,

invite-only, and federation. Federation is likely the most enticing, but also

the least likely to work. None of these solve the recruitment of new moderators

for which I've only really heard the vague idea of democracy proposed.


 No.137104

File: 89610368805ea0e⋯.gif (792.94 KB, 480x360, 4:3, BreakingTheLaw.gif)

>>137099

The big issue with imageboards is that illegal material is no longer postable. Raids, dox, CP, and online harrassment were absolutely essential to the cultural development of the chans, as they chased everyone who took shit seriously off to places like Digg, Something Awful, and Stormfront. Also, the regularity with which illegal material was posted served as proof that the user base and not the moderators were actually in charge. No society can be free when nobody can break the law.


 No.137132

>>137099

>Image-boards have a few desirable traits.

So what advantages do other available e-communication formats have over them?

>The most significant of these results in the liberation of the individual from social norms. Despite how it might seem individuals can speak more meaningfully and more authentically here than they can anywhere else.

They can though. What happens anonymous stays anonymous. Closetfags can j/o in the closet threads together, skiddies can say swears that their parents and teachers won't let them, and we can talk about our collective desire to not keep being cucked by capital. Can't do that on a site that needs an account ties to an email tied to a mobile tied to a powerword tied to a door to kick in or a job to lose.

>Using bump and linear ordering rather than ``social points'' and anonymous posting are the primary means that this is achieved.

You don't understand how bumps work or what they are, I think.

>These means have their downsides though, primarily in not addressing the issues that started to be visible in the forums of the mid-2000's. The issue of recruiting sane moderation willing to devote large amounts of their time for free as the website scales, is the most substantial issue.

People who want to put in the effort to seek power tend to be pathological asswipes, yes.

>This is the origin of various schemes like the social points systems, and algorithmic moderation.

No it fucking isn't. Porky wanting to quietly disappear unprofitable dissenting opinions, harvest and sell personal data for the express purposes of learning how to better emotionally-manipulate us into doing shit against our owen material interests, and thus manufacture consent, is why those exist.

>For me the question of making a great forum

I doubt there could be a forum that would be better than a like-sized board.

>comes down to the question of how you resolve the issues of the mid-2000's without ruining what makes image-boards great i.e. how do you reduce moderation load and recruit new moderators while retaining anonymous posting

>and sane ranking.

What did he mean by this?

>I'm aware of three proposals to do this, only one of which has been attempted: accounts,

>use your powerword for political online activity

lolno

>invite-only,

either a circlejerk or lasts as long as it takes to get one glow-in-the-dark, plebbitor or /pol/yp in, then they invite their retard friends and it dies.

>and federation. Federation is likely the most enticing, but also the least likely to work.

What did he mean by this?

>None of these solve the recruitment of new moderators for which I've only really heard the vague idea of democracy proposed.

If we had another imageboard it's be easier for anons in Upsidedownland and Kiwiland to night crew for us.

>>

>The big issue with imageboards is that illegal material is no longer postable.

Why is not drawing fire from the Feds a bad thing other than because it's shit you like?

>Raids,

Not illegal in Freedomland and by Bong, Canuck, Kraut or Slavbro standards 90% of the non-normienet and the shit we're likely to post is illegal.

>dox,

Newfags and some freedom-hating nanny governments need to stop spreading the meme that digging up publically-available info on someone is some epid L337 Shadowrun h4xxxx0ring.

>CP,

And nothing of value was lost.

>and online harrassment

Not illegal, this is another newfag meme cooked up in a government think tank.

>were absolutely essential to the cultural development of the chans,

Yes, somewhat, no, and that was what everyone did, to the four items ou mention, respectively.

>as they chased everyone who took shit seriously off to places like Digg, Something Awful, and Stormfront.

Possibly, no they did 90% of that shit too, and demonstrably emphatically no, respectively. Nice boogiemen tho.

>Also, the regularity with which illegal material was posted served as proof that the user base and not the moderators were actually in charge.

No it didn't/doesn't holy shit. Mods can do all those things, Jim has nuked whole boards of them before and so has Cripplewheels.

>No society can be free when nobody can break the law.

>it is morally-incumbent upon the moderation to let me post my pizza

haha, benis.


 No.137133

>>137132

whoops, second wall-of-text meant for >>137104


 No.137135

>>137132

That's an unnecessarily verbose way to say "nuh-uh!"

>Mods can do all those things, Jim has nuked whole boards of them before and so has Cripplewheels.

Shouldn't you be in bed now? It's a school night.


 No.137172

>>137132

>So what advantages do other available e-communication formats have over

>[image-boards]?

Primarily their ability to gain and retain quality posters, even if they are

isolated in sub-communities. I think this is mostly due to reducing signal to

noise which makes reading and responding feel more meaningful to quality

posters.

>They can though. What happens anonymous stays anonymous. Closetfags can j/o in

>the closet threads together, skiddies can say swears that their parents and

>teachers won't let them, and we can talk about our collective desire to not

>keep being cucked by capital.

Yes, that was my point more or less.

>Can't do that on a site that needs an account ties to an email tied to a

>mobile tied to a powerword tied to a door to kick in or a job to lose.

This site still has logs, they just rotate after a set period of time because

the user IP information is only of interest to moderators for a short

period. Your posts can still be tracked back to you by the authorities, it's

just that if you're not doing anything illegal you can truly speak your

mind. Most VPNs also keep logs, and tor exit nodes are vulnerable to ``timing

attacks'' and even logging of messages sent over HTTPS to be deciphered when

vulnerabilities appear later down the line. Also you could just use one of the

10-minute email providers to make a throw away email, or even just make the

image-board site such that you don't need to use a email to register.

>You don't understand how bumps work or what they are, I think.

Ordering threads by when the last post was made rather than upvotes or

algorithms. Not really sure what would make you say this.

>People who want to put in the effort to seek power tend to be pathological

>asswipes, yes.

That wasn't my full point. Even if you were able to collect several sane

moderators, when the site scales you need to scale moderation. This is

something image-boards are very poor at with many quite large boards having

between one and three moderators all in the same timezone.

>No it fucking isn't. Porky wanting to quietly disappear unprofitable

>dissenting opinions, harvest and sell personal data for the express purposes

>of learning how to better emotionally-manipulate us into doing shit against

>our owen material interests, and thus manufacture consent, is why those exist.

Communities still needed a reason to migrate to the new platform, more often

than not that reason was reduced sysadmin, and moderator work load.

>I doubt there could be a forum that would be better than a like-sized board.

It's exceptionally rare that the way we do anything now is the best possible

way to do it.


 No.137173

>>137132

>What did you mean by [sane ranking]?

Bump ordering and linear posting rather than social points and algorithmic

sorting, what we use on imageboards.

>accounts, use your powerword for political online activity. lolno.

Do you only have one password or something? Are you incapable of making

another?

>invite-only, either a circlejerk or lasts as long as it takes to get one

>glow-in-the-dark, plebbitor or /pol/yp in, then they invite their retard

>friends and it dies.

Just ban the offenders, the point is to reduce moderator load not eliminate

moderation. https://lobste.rs is a good example of a functioning non-circle

jerk invite only community, although it uses social points.

>What did you mean by [Federation is likely the most enticing but also the least

>likely to work]?

Federation is more or less when you have multiple small servers which agree to

share posts between themselves, the established API to do this is called

``activitypub''. It's enticing because it fits into the American idea that

decentralization always makes things better, but it doesn't really seem to

solve the problem to me. It might be a good idea to combine with the other

ideas here just to give people some freedom of choice.

>If we had another imageboard it's be easier for anons in Upsidedownland and

>Kiwiland to night crew for us.

It's not just timezone but number, as I mentioned several large boards have

only one to three moderators. It's fundamental to the way image-boards work at

scale.


 No.137174

>>137104

>No society can be free when nobody can break the law.

Criminal detected. You’d be put in a camp in a good society


 No.137190

>>137174

"Crime" is what the state calls the violence of the individual.


 No.137230

>>137135

Not an argument, not counterevidence and not a good imitation of the bantz used here. Typical newfag. Jim and Cripplewheels nuked pedo boards repeatedly for pedo content. If you don't believe me start a thread on /b/ about how Jim did nothing wrong and watch the salt trucks pull up to it and start dumping.

>>137136 (you)

>>137172

<So what advantages do other available e-communication formats have over [image-boards]?

Before I go any further, what's the deal with your formatting? Why do you put random shit on a new line? The site will make it fit your smartphone screen without you doing that and it makes it a pain to respond to you. Not trying to be a dickhead, just trying to help and to understand.

>Primarily their ability to gain and retain quality posters, even if they are isolated in sub-communities.

I have yet to see them produce posts of the quality I have seen on boards. It's a different kind of quality, you get to know the pseudonyms in a forum vs. you get things nobody would ever reveal about themselves online with an imageboard. I prefer the latter because the former evolved into social media and becaue the former eventually squelches quality in favor of the status quo. On a board, nobody can be king unless they're the admin, the mods or have a good argument or at least one the hivemind agrees with. I'd prefer that to stroking the e-dicks of the popufurs all day.

>I think this is mostly due to reducing signal to noise which makes reading and responding feel more meaningful to quality posters.

Not really, the noise is just more obviously noise here. On some toilet like Reddit or SA, noise is a paragraph or matryoshka doll of quotes and some pompous, snide pseudointellectual bullshit next to them, which nobody will call out ever because everybody knows the mods play favorites. On a board, it's sometimes that kind of response, but sometims it's goatse or benisposting or something that doesn't dance around disagreeing with somebody so much, because there isn't that fear of social reprocussion.

<They can though. What happens anonymous stays anonymous. Closetfags can j/o in the closet threads together, skiddies can say swears that their parents and teachers won't let them, and we can talk about our collective desire to not keep being cucked by capital.

>Yes, that was my point more or less.

Okay, we agree on that, then, cool. I still see that as infinitely more desirable than another reputation to maintain with another group of obtuse rules made by obtuse gits.

<Can't do that on a site that needs an account ties to an email tied to a mobile tied to a powerword tied to a door to kick in or a job to lose.

>This site still has logs, they just rotate after a set period of time because the user IP information is only of interest to moderators for a short period.

Use a VPN. Most sites make you enable cookies to post.

>Your posts can still be tracked back to you by the authorities,

Not as easily.

>it's just that if you're not doing anything illegal you can truly speak your mind.

BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLFUCKINGSHIT

>Most VPNs also keep logs, and tor exit nodes are vulnerable to ``timing attacks'' and even logging of messages sent over HTTPS to be deciphered when vulnerabilities appear later down the line.

>stop making my job hard!

>stop making me explain Spurdo!

>Also you could just use one of the 10-minute email providers to make a throw away email,

Yup, right up until I need to use that email to access my account or confirm I am who I say I am more than once, then I'm fucked.

t. lost a lot of good gear on Star Trek Online after losing a computer.

JIM H8 FREEDOM

JIM H8 FREEDOM


 No.137232

>>137172

2/?

>or even just make the image-board site such that you don't need to use a email to register.

…That's how imageboards are now. Fill in a cuckcha once every 24 hours, that's it. If I had to do more than that to post here, I wouldn't post here. From your formatting and lack of info, can I assume you're new to this place?

<You don't understand how bumps work or what they are, I think.

>Ordering threads by when the last post was made rather than upvotes or algorithms.

Yes, so if you want to pay an army of bots or Pajeets to astroturf the thread/opinion you want, they actually have to do it with bumpspam (which will get the thread locked probably) or actual posts (which will get called out because their English is shit and it's clear they don't know what they're talking about), both of which out them as shills.

>Not really sure what would make you say this.

The fact that you seem to think Reddit's system is better.

<People who want to put in the effort to seek power tend to be pathological asswipes, yes.

>That wasn't my full point. Even if you were able to collect several sane moderators, when the site scales you need to scale moderation. This is something image-boards are very poor at

What do you think is poor about moderation on imageboards in general? What do you see that you'd get rid of if you were in charge of this place?

>with many quite large boards having between one and three moderators all in the same timezone.

That's problem local to 8gag because /pol/ turns everything it touches to a pile of shit surrounded by G-men. If we get on a board not banned in half the world, we broaden our pool of potential mods.

jim is a fat nigger who hates freedom


 No.137234

>>137172

3/3

<No it fucking isn't. Porky wanting to quietly disappear unprofitable dissenting opinions, harvest and sell personal data for the express purposes of learning how to better emotionally-manipulate us into doing shit against our own material interests, and thus manufacture consent, is why those exist.

>Communities still needed a reason to migrate to the new platform,

That doesn't address what you quoted at all but okay: Jim hates us, the Feds watch this site and anybody using it, the Ruskis, Bongs, Cuntlanders and Kiwis block this site because of /pol/tards effortposting irl, the other mods don't contain the pizza spam or spacedickschan.gov spam. There's some reasons. And not one of them is a reason to adopt a rulecucked, surveillancecucked platform like a forum. If we were to migrate, it would have to be to another board, ideally something that allowed board creation but without 8gag's tainted namebrand and /pol/yp infestation. And without pedo, or 50 fucking threads whinging that we should have pedo.

>more often than not that reason was reduced sysadmin, and moderator work load.

If a lot more mods migrate there than people, maybe. Otherwise not really. And 'reduced mod workload' will never be a selling point for me or the people who actually try to qualitypost.

<I doubt there could be a forum that would be better than a like-sized board.

>It's exceptionally rare that the way we do anything now is the best possible way to do it.

That has nothing to do with what I said. I'm really sick of shit like this, y'know? It's like on Family Guy, how most people sort of get the gist of what Brian and Stewie say but that's about as far as it goes. Fuck. There, I tied it in with Family Guy, now can it fucking stop already? Anyway, actually reading, thinking about and adressing your point like a human being with a working brain even though you don't seem to want to, doing the best we can =! doing perfect. Boards may not be the most ideal way of talking online, just the best we know of and the best we've got.

Jim holds this site together with the thin jizz of his ladyboys


 No.137235

>>137234

>Jim hates us

First off: proofs? Second, I welcome their hatred.


 No.137237

>>137230

>Not an argument, not counterevidence

"Nuh-uh" doesn't warrant any.

>Typical newfag. Jim and Cripplewheels

Lel irony. Tell me all about the good old days way back in 2015.

>>137232

>>137234

>tl;dr

Goddamn, nigger, take a breakfrom the computer sometime.


 No.137246

File: 42a13e52e746697⋯.jpg (171.91 KB, 1024x683, 1024:683, 979b26b78164e58e4c417a86b3….jpg)

>>137234

>the Feds watch this site

yes

>and anybody using it,

Nah, I've heard from at least one source Mike Baizle of the "Privacy, Security and OSINT" podcast and former L.E. officer that the Feds hate 8 chan because they are extremely uncooperative.

Take that what you will, it could me that 8 chan really does push back against L.E. or just 8 chan doesn't completely bendover and spread their butt apart like I'm sure FANG Facebook, Apple, Netflix Google does for them.


 No.137251

>>137173

<What did you mean by [sane ranking]?

>Bump ordering and linear posting rather than social points and algorithmic sorting, what we use on imageboards.

>haha the only sane and functional way to run a board is to make it intensely vulnerable to subversion by anybody with a couple hundred bucks.

No.

<accounts, use your powerword for political online activity. lolno.

Yes they do, I explained how.

>Do you only have one password or something?

I don't have any password for this site. I don't need one.

>Are you incapable of making another?

>gyuck hyuck hyuck inconvenience yourself to be surveilled

No thanks, I'll stick to freedom. Keep smugging out about the dick in your ass tho lol

<invite-only, either a circlejerk or lasts as long as it takes to get one glow-in-the-dark, plebbitor or /pol/yp in, then they invite their retard friends and it dies.

>Just ban the offenders, the point is to reduce moderator load not eliminate moderation.

No it isn't. We are on this site and on this board because of bad moderation. If you want to 'reduce moderation load', go back to sucking it out their dicks on reddit tbh. And as we've seen, the mods can bring in members of their circlejerk from offsite like Body Oder did with the redditankies.

>https://lobste.rs is a good example of a functioning non-circle jerk invite only community, although it uses social points.

It's a reddit clone and it sure looks like a circlejerk to me. And if it's not crap yet, it's structured such that it will be soon enough.

<What did you mean by [Federation is likely the most enticing but also the least likely to work]?

>Federation is more or less when you have multiple small servers which agree to share posts between themselves, the established API to do this is called ``activitypub''.

There is nothing preventing an imageboard from running off those, right?

>It's enticing because it fits into the American idea that decentralization always makes things better,

That's not American-exclusive, and it's not enticing. Enticing things include content, bantz, lulz, pronz, zesty greentext, and knowing your ideas will be judged on their own merit instead of whether or not you agree with/are part of the "in" crowd.

>but it doesn't really seem to solve the problem to me. It might be a good idea to combine with the other ideas here just to give people some freedom of choice.

What does this even mean?

<If we had another imageboard it's be easier for anons in Upsidedownland and Kiwiland to night crew for us.

>It's not just timezone but number, as I mentioned several large boards have only one to three moderators.

Yes it fucking is timezone, you don't need three mods in the same 8-hour interval in 24 hours, you need one each in 8-hour shifts, which is almost impossible now unless they're ESL or night-owl Burgers. Are you so new you don't know about the "mods are asleep, post cheese pizza" meme?

>It's fundamental to the way image-boards work at scale.

You don't know what that means.


 No.137253

>>137235

>first off

He restored /leftypol/ last to jerk off /pol/, and everything in the Poopoopeepeewater is screeching about >muh leftists

>second off

Posture all you like, I still want off a board the Feds are watching like hawks because of the high-scorer. It's annoying not to be able to either reciprocate their actable threats or dismiss them as fake shit-talking now that some of them have actually done shit and the rest are being watched.

>>137237

>nuh-uh doesn't warrant any

And isn't what I said, I presented evidence of my claim.

>stop referring only to this site when you argue about this site

Keep trying, you're almost pulling it off.

>haha you have no life

haha you have no arguments

>>137246

>the feds dont watch this place they said so and I believed them

what a trustworthy source of information with absolutely no reason to lie to you whatsoever, and no history of lying when it suits their needs

>8 chan

yes, clearly you are an expert on this site


 No.137260

>>137253

>And isn't what I said, I presented evidence of my claim.

Do you think people can't scroll up?


 No.137265

>>137253

>He restored /leftypol/ last to jerk off /pol/

That was quite a while back. Wasn't it his son or Frederick that actually did that? And I don't know if I would interpret that as seething hatred regardless. If guess if they blubber about liberal identity politics "leftists" on that shitty stream all the time then that's evidence though.


 No.137266

Actually you know what, we should invite Jim over here sometime for Q&A. Maybe we can clean up some of that ignorance no doubt built on straw men.


 No.137270

>>137260

Did you read my posts thoroughly?

>>137265

>his son Frederick

lurkmoar


 No.137271

>>137266

fuck off newfag retard lol


 No.137273

>>137270

>lurkmoar

I've been here since the first time Hotwheels did a stream on Minecraft. He said he doesn't have a preference for what people call him, so I just use his actual name, Frederick.


 No.137275

>>137273

That's not how I know you're new.


 No.137276

>>137270

>Did you read my posts thoroughly?

Did I read the three pages or assertions backed by nothing? Sure. I am sure that everyone else here also read them line-by-line.


 No.137277

>>137230

>What's the deal with your formatting? Why do you put random shit on a new

>line? The site will make it fit your smartphone screen without you doing that

>and it makes it a pain to respond to you.

I don't own a phone, I'm writing this from w3m.el in emacs and prefer to keep

my documents and programs spaced at 80 columns which has been the standard long

before the this site and even the internet existed.

>I have yet to see them produce posts of the quality I have seen on boards.

Some easy places with superior quality might be the linux kernel mailing list,

the openbsd mailing list or even https://lobste.rs as compared with /tech/ I do

know of some smaller image-boards which would rival these platforms though.

>It's a different kind of quality, you get to know the pseudonyms in a forum

>vs. you get things nobody would ever reveal about themselves online with an

>imageboard.

I don't think that's quality at all, maybe we have different definitions of the

word but while authenticity is very valuable I don't see it as a synonym with

quality in this case.

>I prefer the latter because the former evolved into social media and becaue

>the former eventually squelches quality in favor of the status quo. On a

>board, nobody can be king unless they're the admin, the mods or have a good

>argument or at least one the hivemind agrees with. I'd prefer that to stroking

>the e-dicks of the popufurs all day.

I certainly prefer image-boards to platforms with identification, which is why

I'm here.

>Not really, the noise is just more obviously noise here. On some toilet like

>Reddit or SA, noise is a paragraph or matryoshka doll of quotes and some

>pompous, snide pseudointellectual bullshit next to them, which nobody will

>call out ever because everybody knows the mods play favorites. On a board,

>it's sometimes that kind of response, but sometims it's goatse or benisposting

>or something that doesn't dance around disagreeing with somebody so much,

>because there isn't that fear of social reprocussion.

You can check out the mentioned locations, I wasn't refering to Reddit as a

place with low signal to noise. Reddit is in my hosts.deny (to be fair so is

8ch and it's just off at the moment)

>Use a VPN. Most sites make you enable cookies to post.

This isn't really even relevant to the discussion so I'm sorry I brought it up,

if you use a VPN which doesn't use logs, it's unlikely that anything illegal

you post here would cause a issue.

>…That's how imageboards are now. Fill in a cuckcha once every 24 hours, that's

>it. If I had to do more than that to post here, I wouldn't post here. From your

>formatting and lack of info, can I assume you're new to this place?

Yes, I'm aware. I was saying you could have a image-board with a account system

but without email verification. I'm neither new nor old ~4 years ago is when I

first started posting on /leftypol/ but I haven't posted in ~2 years.


 No.137278

>>137230

>Yes, so if you want to pay an army of bots or Pajeets to astroturf the thread/

>opinion you want, they actually have to do it with bumpspam (which will get

>the thread locked probably) or actual posts (which will get called out because

>their English is shit and it's clear they don't know what they're talking

>about), both of which out them as shills.

I don't know, you don't have to make personalities and profiles for all your

fake posters which has to be pretty helpful. I wouldn't be surprised if

image-boards were worse in this way, but honestly I generally avoid larger

image-boards and boards which would be the target of this type of thing.

>The fact that you seem to think Reddit's system is better.

That's really not at all what I think. Reddit isn't even a conversation

platform it's a link aggregator.

>What do you think is poor about moderation on imageboards in general? What do

>you see that you'd get rid of if you were in charge of this place?

I don't have a specific rule set in mind, but something that would remove most

of the threads on this board honestly.

>That's problem local to 8gag because /pol/ turns everything it touches to a

>pile of shit surrounded by G-men. If we get on a board not banned in half the

>world, we broaden our pool of potential mods.

Okay. even if it wasn't banned in half the world a large board with three to

six moderators isn't much better.

>Jim hates us, the Feds watch this site and anybody using it, the Ruskis,

>Bongs, Cuntlanders and Kiwis block this site because of /pol/tards

>effortposting irl, the other mods don't contain the pizza spam or

>spacedickschan.gov spam. There's some reasons. And not one of them is a reason

>to adopt a rulecucked, surveillancecucked platform like a forum. If we were to

>migrate, it would have to be to another board, ideally something that allowed

>board creation but without 8gag's tainted namebrand and /pol/yp

>infestation. And without pedo, or 50 fucking threads whinging that we should

>have pedo.

Maybe you just want https://bunkerchan.xyz

>If a lot more mods migrate there than people, maybe. Otherwise not really. And

>'reduced mod workload' will never be a selling point for me or the people who

>actually try to qualitypost.

Moderators as community leaders arranged the migration, it's just what

happened.

>Boards may not be the most ideal way of talking online, just the best we know

>of and the best we've got.

My original post was about innovating within the image-board model, in many

ways it is the best we've got.

>doing the best we can =! doing perfect.

We can do better.


 No.137279

>>137230

Feel free to make a rebuttal, but I'm not sure I'll respond, after that's done

most people reading the thread will assume your opinion is correct as it's the

last post. I'm tired and spending this much time on this really doesn't seem

worth it for me.


 No.137281

>>137251

You ought paced me man, I can respond to this much text. Maybe if we were

working towards some common understanding or improving our ideas I could force

myself to because it'd be worth it but I just can't.


 No.137282

>>137281

:s/can/can't/


 No.137289

>>137279

>I don't feel like engaging you so I'll say you're not making an argument


 No.137293

>>137275

And what is? Your own misreading of a post to think it implied I thought Frederick was his son?


 No.137306

>>137019

caucasoids aren't white people but afro-asiatics. the term is a misnomer. indo-europeans and caucasoids are different people, also different language groups.


 No.137309

>>137293

Nice attempt to save fag, took you long enough


 No.137407

Anyone else having trouble with opening images? It's slower than it was using dial-up


 No.137418

>>137306

Except caucasian oroginally reffered to everyone in Europe, the Middle East, and India. Generally, it reffered to people who can trace linguistic, genetic, and/or cultural ancestry to the proto-indo-europeans.


 No.137530

>>137407

Not everyone is a poorfag with shit Internet lmao


 No.137547

>>137530

who did this lmao 😂😂😂😂


 No.137596

File: 62e6a0980768523⋯.jpg (101.35 KB, 599x583, 599:583, 62e6a098076852375df47b985e….jpg)

>>137277

>standard since before the internet

that doesn't make it good, or less-annoying to deal with

>superior as compared to /tech/

But this isn't the same thing as /tech/.

>I don't see authenticity as quality

If it's not authentic, anything based on it will fall apart when reality steps in. I think what we discuss it too important to entrust to the E-peen measuring contests forums and social media are.

>I prefer imageboards to platforms with identification

Cool, more common ground between us.

>check them out

The format on lobsters is kind of a turnoff, and again, I really think namefaggotry and signins are structurally-unsound for stuff like this. It might be nice now (I can't tell from skimming it, one rarely can tell the character of a site in under a few months and I have a life), but the fate of all pseudonymous rather than anonymous formats is to descend into a circlejerk, or at least to do so faster and in a way that I guess annoys me more.

>imageboard with an account system

That defeats the main advantage of it being an imageboard. I'm not looking for another rep to maintain, sorry.

>I haven't posted in 2 years

Out of curiosity, why'd you stop, and why'd you start again? Also I've been on since 2014 and I don't remember any posts with your distinctive formatting.

jim is a faggot


 No.137616

>>137070

>Implying shitposting on a Cambodian Cave Drawing Forum will get us anywhere.


 No.137635

>>137017

The entire sentence.


 No.137636

>>137530

Welcome to r/socialism, enjoy your stay


 No.137801

User count is at a historical low, I actually have to scroll on the board list to find /leftpol/.


 No.137950

>>136673

Anons have been saying this since 7chan's creation.


 No.137952

File: 12a70834171730e⋯.jpg (108.71 KB, 928x356, 232:89, Banned.jpg)

>>136673

>>136671

>>136677

I feel it brothers. I got permabanned from leftypol for shitposting in their Notre Dame thread. Who knew Christians symbols were so important to supposed leftists?

Previous ban I got was for saying that there are more Indians in America than Native Americans, which is an undeniable fact.


 No.137953

File: 259538822e4c0a8⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 20.19 KB, 500x335, 100:67, 3c9d95c11981535d22535d4fd9….jpg)

>>137952

Where's a good place to shitpost about current events and shit anons? I can't do 8/pol/ because they're just too retarded. The race shit is grating. It's not that I'm even sensitive of criticism of "colored peoples," but their shit is just over the top and obsessive. Also I'm permabanned from 4chan site wide for posting this image(well actually not this image. It was a different image of a cat being crushed by a stilletto. I forgot how I even found it. It's not that I was endorsing cat crushing either.) Said I broke the rule of posting no illegal shit.

Strangest shit is I've posted gore photos from Mexican cartels before without even so much as a warning. It's something about the innocent kittays that really enrage them I guess. 4Chan mods are reddit confirmed?


 No.137956

>>137953

>Where's a good place to shitpost about current events and shit anons?

Should I take this as a message to stop wasting my time on image boards? I like them better than sites with usernames and perament posts(and god forbid post rating systems) because they provide no illusion that I'm doing anything besides wasting my time shouting into the wind.


 No.137957

>>137801

Yeah, it had over 150 IPs not even a few weeks ago. But it seems like every board's numbers have sank except /v/ and /pol/ so maybe something is up.


 No.138004

>>137952

Why did you crop your post? Coward.


 No.138017

>>137953

That's a cat? I thought it was a rat!


 No.138033

File: a1231bf84aa8785⋯.jpg (23.51 KB, 501x323, 501:323, 652ca45452b5b63936e28c0070….jpg)

>>138004

> Coward.

Maybe. I did give you the proper context though. I was shitposting in the Notre Dame thread, which is a

>important /leftypol/ topic of conversation

>Why did you crop your post?

Because the beauty of a shitpost on an anonymous message board is never having to explain yourself or maintain a consistent identity. Frankly this shit is already fucked enough that it's basically a regular message board/reddit for the mods where they can see your entire post history. Defeats the purpose.

Also ironic is all the /leftypol/ users admitting they take false positions on /pol/ with the purpose of creating confusion but god forbid you do it on their hugbox. Why take a fucking imageboard so serious? I swear a lot of the Israelis on 4/pol have a better sense of humor and a thicker skin than the faggot /leftypol/ mods.

>>138017

It looked more like a kitten to start with.


 No.138034

File: d7d320a6fdcea00⋯.jpg (34.76 KB, 640x476, 160:119, d7d320a6fdcea00a98b35abe1f….jpg)

>>136648

With the current state of America and constant Fascist nagging crossposting it's hard to stay civil.


 No.138048

>>138033

But I've been making ironic tankie/Dengist/anti-imperialist shitposts on /leftypol/ for years now. You probably aren't being creative enough.


 No.138059

>>138048

>You probably aren't being creative enough.

Probably.

>>138048

>But I've been making ironic tankie/Dengist/anti-imperialist shitposts on /leftypol/ for years now.

They probably think you're being serious and agree with you tho. Oh well, I'm permabanned so I guess I'm a leftpoler now.


 No.138060

>>138059

I still can't get over the fact that some faggot church getting burned down is considered an "important topic of discussion" over at leftypol. /Leftypol/ mods confirmed for unironic Christcoms?


 No.138062

>>138060

<Thousand of threads about genuine concerns of anons get anchored for being off topic.

>Thread about an accidental fire at a faggot church: Important topic of leftist discussion.


 No.138065

File: adfbe5f53088cac⋯.jpeg (92.91 KB, 720x688, 45:43, DzjlVGuWsAE7zUH.jpeg)

>>138048

Irony will never surpass the absurdity of the reality.

>>138062

Last time I was there they anchored a thread asking questions about syndicalism. When a popular socialist strategy is an off limits topic you know something is fucked.


 No.138084

>>138060

Muh rational atheism

Muh God delusion

Mass genocide of atheists when?


 No.138085

>>138034

Muh Americans

Muh Fascists

Go to your dot gay address if you live moderators so much


 No.138089

>>138085

You can be against moderators and not be civil with those you disagree with though, you just have to be against banning them per say, no one has any obligation to be polite.


 No.138092

File: 05117b03360e6a5⋯.jpg (68.98 KB, 544x544, 1:1, WhereMightYouBeFrom.jpg)


 No.138096

>>138084

Muh undialecticall anti-materialism

Muh I understand the secrets of the universe but I can't produce the magic my magic book claims in any tangible form

No mass genocide of religutards because I don't need to kill people who insult my favorite fantasy franchise when?


 No.138103

>>138065

>Last time I was there they anchored a thread asking questions about syndicalism. When a popular socialist strategy is an off limits topic you know something is fucked.

Yeah that's pretty fucked up. Honestly if the mods will only allow their own personal point of view on that board, why do they even allow non-mods to make threads?


 No.138106

>>138033

>/leftypol/ admits to falseflagging /pol/

bullshit

>>138060

ow the edge


 No.138107

File: b0debc5d710816f⋯.jpg (268.77 KB, 942x748, 471:374, LeftyPolShilling.jpg)

>>138106

>/leftypol/ admits to falseflagging /pol/

>bullshit

C'mon dude. Have you ever even browsed leftypol?

>>138106

>ow the edge

Epic maymay.


 No.138108

>>138106

>>138107

Where's my apology faggot?


 No.138112

>>138107

Posting in bad faith is not false flagging you retard. /pol/ is not some national security objective.


 No.138113

File: 4b430a5f25c3e7c⋯.jpg (115.98 KB, 1024x683, 1024:683, faggot.jpg)

>>138112

>Posting in bad faith is not false flagging you retard. /pol/ is not some national security objective.

You introduced the word false flag you zero reading comprehension faggot.

My post:

>>138033

>Also ironic is all the /leftypol/ users admitting they take false positions on /pol/

Your dumb greentext summary of what I said introducing the word you're now objecting to:

>>138106

>>/leftypol/ admits to falseflagging /pol/

>bullshit

Where's my apology faggot?


 No.138132

>>138096

Calling people retards is what got people sent to S-21.

Even /pol/ deep down knows "learn to code" is a one way ticket to the killing fields

Making fun of religion is what got Matthew Hopkins to murder witches. You want that again, you insufferable fedora tipping faggot? I didn't think so.


 No.138133

>>138089

Of course. But I have no obligation to be polite in return ipso facto.


 No.138135

>>138132

Wut?

>>138133

You're not funny bro.


 No.138136

>>138107

since 2014.


 No.138137

>>138132

take

your

meds

reddit


 No.138140

>>138135

that's nice. idc

>>138137

haven't been on there in years. anything to keep a dead meme on life support huh?


 No.138318

>>137801

That is not true, it's just that other boards have surpassed us. Our user count has always averaged around 125-150 and at the time of me posting it is at 136 so it's not like we've reached rock-bottom.


 No.138326

I still check back here periodically, because it is the best image board for social anarchism. However, I don't come on here nearly as much as I used to, and I think there are a few reasons contributing to its decline:

1) Too few people. One of the things that makes image boards so addicting is the rapid response rate. For a while I used /leftypol/ more, just because there are way more people on it, despite despising a lot of the authoritarian bullshit on there. This board moves so slow sometimes that it doesn't always stick as a habit. That's a natural consequence of this board not having /leftypol/'s retards, but it's still a problem.

2) Infiltration. While this is the good anti-authoritarian leftist board, we still get too many retards who believe in "ethno-nationalism" and antisemitic conspiracy theories, and will defend the Khmer Rouge's war crimes just because they're ostensibly on the left. We also get Nazbol retards who completely derail good conversations because they're so fucking stupid that we have to go back to explaining the most basic things to them. For some reason, the Nazbol's can't seem to grasp that they're not actually on the left. They're just Nazi scumbags who are such fucking losers IRL that they want a nanny state.

It's also an issue that we share this site with 8chan's /pol/ board, which at this point is the most toxic wignat board on the internet. That's an inevitable consequence of 8chan being the freest image board site, and that's great. It's also part of why we're here. But it has a bunch of creepy, fucked up would be right wing terrorists on it, and that's a problem.

This is still a great board and I've had a lot of good conversations on it, though. Interestingly, I've also had some decent leftist conversations on 4chan's hipster boards, /mu/ and /lit/.

Also, I'm honestly trying to just waste less time online in general.


 No.141814

We are down again, it feels like nobody posts here anymore.


 No.141817

Having fascists run free and to be completely obsessed with "femnazis" seems to be quite ill-advised for a leftist board.


 No.141822

File: f36424b5d8aaad1⋯.png (316.06 KB, 900x600, 3:2, 29f7869612d7567fdbe7587123….png)

>>141814

I stopped posting as much because it's gotten boring and almost everyone I liked doesn't come here anymore.


 No.141826

>>141822

Who did you like?


 No.141830

>>141814

It feels legitimately dead, it's so uncanny.

What caused it?


 No.141832

File: e103eb4b34430ee⋯.jpg (1.12 MB, 1944x2592, 3:4, JimProfitSexe.jpg)

>>141830

Didn't provide a serious unmoderated alternative to /leftypol/ and just simply reterritorialized itself according to its own ideological biases


 No.141833

File: 7e16f39b035d0fa⋯.jpeg (107.46 KB, 675x908, 675:908, D5lRKFIW4AAGt--.jpeg)

>>141826

Well I've been here since 2014 and being anonymous makes identification difficult so I've probably forgotten a lot of people but OG Marxhead, the 40 year old angry cat, catposter, statueposter, greek groucho, escort anon, that dude with 8 kids, karen, socdem gang anon, and of course the hundreds of anons who weren't so recognizable by flag or posting. The one fella I recognise who is cool is an anarchist who frequently posts cute animoo pics.

>>141830

Not enough people posted, the board got slow and boring, people left because not much was happening and what was happening was just the same shit.


 No.141850

Would help if there was more to talk about lately.


 No.141858

>>141850

There's been strikes recently and we can always talk about literature, but few care about politics beyond elections or management of the state and no one reads anything.


 No.141960

>>136687

Hey now, drawgirl was not cancer. Drawgirl is amazing.


 No.141970

>>138326

>ethno-nationalism

Benis

>Khmer Rouge's war crimes

Benis

>Nazbols

LE EBIN BENIS


 No.141971

>>141817

Not an argument


 No.142037

I wonder where all those realest niggas from 2015-2016 went.

I wish we had a real alternative for this crap know as 8ch, unfortunately leftist.site isn't it, they are already complaining about how this board is triggering and problematic.


 No.142038

>>142037

>leftist.site is triggered by us

imagine my shock


 No.142040

File: 810b0164eb2d77d⋯.png (55.32 KB, 697x871, 697:871, 09b5256f557cd46e3a33bded4e….png)

>>142037

>I wonder where all those realest niggas from 2015-2016 went.

Off the chans, maybe to twitter or even reddit, possibly off political forums. /leftypol/ served its use as radicalization for autists and we're never getting the golden age back. /leftpol/ will die and /leftypol/ is already a mockery of what it was, it's a tragedy and I miss a lot of people but it's not the end of the world.

t. 2014 nigga

>>142037

leftist.site looks dead. I can appreciate, and agree with, the idea of having multiple camps and even dedicated sites for our brand of autistic socialist community, but a five forum ain't it. At this point it was too little too late, and we should learn not to have the community hinge upon the management of unaccountable individuals.




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