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File: 5ec47e93bcbaf46⋯.jpg (110.34 KB, 651x410, 651:410, ok then.jpg)

 No.135337

I've been wanting to deradicalize a bit from the far right and spend some time on the other side of the creek, but then I come over here and you faggots post like once every 3 hours. Christ on a bike this shit is slow.

Anyway, caught myself saying nigger out loud spontaneously in a crowded place (I was at fucking MEPS of all places). Don't think anyone noticed but it made me realize I need to cool off before I potentially ruin my life and career from my /pol/ speaking habits. Though there are aspects of civic and ethnonationalism that I can't really shake and that I haven't found really addressed in the limited leftist youtubers I've been exposed to in my efforts to balance out.

The main thing is European culture, identifying with that history and heritage, and the desire to preserve it, at least the good parts. Capitalism is dogshit in soooooo many fucking ways, but there are huge portions of western culture that I think are good and not invulnerable to change or regression. In their attempts to debunk replacement migration in western countries, the two tubers I've seen (shaun and three arrows) largely just shrug off any sense of western culture or identity, as if it's not at risk at all and never could be ever. And yet such people are perfectly capable of seeing how it is endangered through some sort of fascist uprising by far right people, but a country's population becoming predominantly another ethnicity or cultural background they just don't even seem to consider that that could be the same kind of threat. The whole notion of national identity, or really any identity past the individual, seems to be almost comical to the left. Shaun shows a picture of a group of muslim girls waving the german flag and is just like, "a bunch of children waving the german flag, don't see what's so scary" or something. BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT FUCKING GERMAN. Connection to and reverence for a culture and country goes deeper than waving a fucking flag or speaking the language. This kind of ignorance and seeming contempt for people identifying with their culture, nation, or ethnicity is one of the major obstacles for me in coming back towards the left in any way.

How should I work around this or move forward? My identity with my culture and ancestry is not something I can shrug off. It's like that old zen saying, "glimpsed once and forever." I can't fucking unsee it. And yet it just creates huge pain and anxiety for me because, NO SHIT, things change, and are changing, and that can not be stopped.

 No.135338

Cool blog post faget


 No.135339

>>135338

thanks shit fuck


 No.135340

File: ce66959b275aec9⋯.jpg (228.33 KB, 1584x864, 11:6, 1510715032908.jpg)

>>135337

From my experience, the rights' ideas of "national identity" are always so romanticized. I'm from a scandinavian country, and I couldn't tell you five distinguishing features of my culture that the "native" population would agree are inherent to our culture. Our "medieval culture" was eroded by capitalism long before any muslims set foot in the country (as anything but thralls), and at this point there's no difference between American, British, German and Scandinavian culture. We all watch dumb fuck hollywood movies, we engage in the same dumb fuck consumer culture that they do, and it has nothing to do with immigration. The immigrants quickly learn to become the cultureless consumers that we are. This is the trend of global capitalism, and the only way to start building a new and better proletarian culture is through communism.


 No.135341

>>135337

Also, go to >>>/leftypol/ or >>>/marx/, this board is trash.


 No.135342

File: 441a88f6d69df98⋯.jpg (5.31 KB, 149x200, 149:200, Black_Hitler.jpg)

>I've been wanting to deradicalize a bit from the far right and spend some time on the other side of the creek

I don't want to move you away but if you want to deradicalize why would you do it by spending time with the opposite radicals?

>Anyway, caught myself saying nigger out loud spontaneously in a crowded place (I was at fucking MEPS of all places). Don't think anyone noticed but it made me realize I need to cool off before I potentially ruin my life and career from my /pol/ speaking habits.

Get yourself tested for tourette's syndrome.

Secondly if you can't live with those beliefs openly stop believing in them.

>The main thing is European culture, identifying with that history and heritage, and the desire to preserve it, at least the good parts. Capitalism is dogshit in soooooo many fucking ways, but there are huge portions of western culture that I think are good and not invulnerable to change or regression. In their attempts to debunk replacement migration in western countries, the two tubers I've seen (shaun and three arrows) largely just shrug off any sense of western culture or identity, as if it's not at risk at all and never could be ever. And yet such people are perfectly capable of seeing how it is endangered through some sort of fascist uprising by far right people, but a country's population becoming predominantly another ethnicity or cultural background they just don't even seem to consider that that could be the same kind of threat. The whole notion of national identity, or really any identity past the individual, seems to be almost comical to the left. Shaun shows a picture of a group of muslim girls waving the german flag and is just like, "a bunch of children waving the german flag, don't see what's so scary" or something. BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT FUCKING GERMAN. Connection to and reverence for a culture and country goes deeper than waving a fucking flag or speaking the language. This kind of ignorance and seeming contempt for people identifying with their culture, nation, or ethnicity is one of the major obstacles for me in coming back towards the left in any way.

You see this whole part of your post?

Absolutely meaningless no one here gives two shits about western culture enough to bother abolishing, I haven't seen a single person on this whole board who ever said anything slightly related to that, lurk more.

Other than that admit capitalism is a terrible system and I guess do something.

For what it's worth I think you're nowhere near as autistically right wing as you think you are, certainly not on Nazi's level you sound like /pol/ boomers. There's really nothing here anyone can help you with I fully agree with >>135341

Go to /leftypol/, you're better off there, make sure you bring the Tankie with you as a favor for us.


 No.135343

File: ef2517dd2efa152⋯.webm (2.21 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, you have autism.webm)

>>135337

>Anyway, caught myself saying nigger out loud spontaneously in a crowded place


 No.135344

File: 3cfb882048502e7⋯.jpg (313.03 KB, 2023x1717, 119:101, basic math.jpg)

>>135342

here was my take away from christchurch


 No.135346

>>135344

Hold on now before I read anything else.

>Cuckchan /pol/

No really listen what the tankie said before and make your way to >>>/leftypol/ quick, you're in critical condition.


 No.135347

>>135346

is there a board that isn't dead as fuck here?


 No.135351

>>135347

Once you get over your facebook/youtube conditioned need for constantly refreshing newsfeeds, you'll learn to appreciate the slower moving boards.


 No.135354

>>135351

>cope

nigger this place is a fucking ghost town.


 No.135355

>>135344

After reading wow that was really fucking autistic.

Good news, you're the type of /pol/ tard who doesn't have any clue what the subtext of his idea's are beyond white nationalist but not national socialist ideas. Simply put your one of the common "Anti immigration" people which really are easily knocked down because of that being your one and only stance.

If you wish to deradicalize yourself, you only really have a few options, /leftypol/ and /r/socialism, you're going to need to go to a place where the majority of people find the importance of getting rid of anti immigration hysteria important and they can work together to fully desensitize you to rejecting your ideas.

As I see it /leftpol/ is a place where people who have already decided their beliefs go to discuss matters, if you come to us with a request to change your mind because you feel trapped in your own ideology, we won't be able to help you as much as seeking help from a much larger group that all has one goal. Even dismantling your idea's won't help since it's not done to change your perception of the world rather than to force you to admit you're wrong. The fact that you use memes like "Right wing death squads and muh birthrates" screams this outloud. The way you view this idea is very Middle Class Eurocentric which is a major problem to anyone looking to take it seriously but even worse it clearly dumbs you down and causes you to do retarded shit like yell nigger in public without realizing the n word in itself is a symbol of a time when whites and blacks were forced together and perpetuating it only hurts whites as much as blacks if anything.

So I agree with you assuming your stance is you finally realized this and only wish to be "Normal" instead of finding your own beliefs or evolving which for you sounds like the best path instead of anything else you can do. So for this you must go to a place like /leftypol/, or even actual help workers to get despooked properly and live a normal life.

>>135347

No send your thanks to Jim and the staff at 8chan. This place had boards updating regularly with 20 pph for the lowest 30 boards before everything crashed and burned and we became 2010 Cuckchan 2.0.

>>135354

>Cope

Nigger stop it with the buzzwords you're only ousting yourself even more.


 No.135356

>>135354

Well, >>>/leftypol/ is significantly faster, but still nothing compared to /pol/.


 No.135358

>>135355

thanks i'll check 'em out


 No.135360

Because you're as autistic as you are and because you recognise everything good is being destroyed by assholes at the top, "deradicalising" yourself by spending time on leftypol will just turn you into an unironic nazbol. If you really want to be deradicalised go force yourself to watch contrapoints until you finally enjoy the tranny antics.

You recognise something isn't right and feel the urge to jump between ends of a very arbitrarily set up left-right political spectrum. If you want to know why you feel the way you do and why everything seems as fucked as it is in such a vague way, read a short, easy-to-digest book (if you can call it that) called Industrial Society and its Future

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/unabomber/manifesto.text.htm

You can read it here on a completely milquetoast non-sketchy site (WaPo for crying out loud) if you don't feel like going to /pdfs/. It's not written by WaPo but was published by them after the author sent it to them.


 No.135362

>>135360

>"deradicalising" yourself by spending time on leftypol will just turn you into an unironic nazbol

There are no nazbols on leftypol, they were all banned and came here, which is exactly why I want him off this board.


 No.135363

>>135360

It's a long trip down the rabbit hole before you ever reach peace with your beliefs and fully understand what everything is, where you stand, and when you finally have the self confirmation of knowing your idea's are correct and will help people. I feel it would be best for OP to become a semi apolitical socialist who keeps his head out of anti immigration issue's for his own good.

But that aside

>>135362

Is right.

/leftypol/ at this point is like everywhere else in the internet, just ML's with varying opinions but never nazbol and the occasional hebephile syndicalist. It's probably op's best bet, that or /r/socialism at this point otherwise he'll need actual help from a social worker.

Fortunately for the tank like I said before no one on this board is trying to convince op they're right and should join them, we're just pointing him in the right direction.


 No.135365

>>135362

He will get banned on leftypol very quickly and come here again briefly before returning to /pol/ because the board is too slow for him.


 No.135367

>>135360

Also

>Unabomber memeifesto

This thread sunk lower than I thought it would in much shorter time than expected.


 No.135368

>>135365

This is probably going to be the end result knowing the mods at /leftypol/ unless the tank and enough people vouch for trying to help him and not perma banning him every time he accidentally say "Nigger" on instinct while typing.


 No.135369

>>135365

So long as he behaves and argues in good faith, he wont get banned, no.


 No.135371

File: 8836bf268770dd1⋯.jpg (79.48 KB, 600x572, 150:143, CEOHRvtW0AAapCM.jpg)

>>135337

>Capitalism is dogshit in soooooo many fucking ways

Chances are you can't even deliver a good definition of that. I mean, that applies to >90% of the modern left too, but still the problem of people screeching about capitalism without even knowing what it is and what are its implications.

>How should I work around this or move forward? My identity with my culture and ancestry is not something I can shrug off. It's like that old zen saying, "glimpsed once and forever." I can't fucking unsee it. And yet it just creates huge pain and anxiety for me because, NO SHIT, things change, and are changing, and that can not be stopped.

One of those implications is how national identities arose and destroyed local identities(as it has historically happened) and how pan-national/cosmopolitan identities slowly arise and rot away national identities(in progress). Perhaps knowing this, or rather knowing how this process happens and what makes it more-or-less inevitable, would make you have another moment of enlightenment?

>>135360

>le Unabomber meme

It's becoming next Stirner


 No.135372

>>135369

lol

OP, just read the unabomber manifesto and realise that in the extreme long term all of these systems are really terrible. Everything is fucked and that's why change and the way things are make you so uncomfortable. At the same time, realise you can't do anything about them so you don't pointlessly go ideology shopping.


 No.135373

>>135371

Na, Stirner already has a established reputation even though he declined, Unabomber never answered enough about society to properly make a good political ideology. He's like Calum Von Moger to Arnold, he'll never be as big as him even though everyone says he will, deep down though they know he won't.


 No.135374

>>135372

>hey op, don't worry about it, you can't do anything about anything, just go jerk off in the corner

The absolute state


 No.135375

>>135374

this but unironically


 No.135377

File: b958b00195dbad5⋯.jpg (43.49 KB, 526x473, 526:473, b958b00195dbad52c6a7c1af7c….jpg)

>>135337

Maybe learn to not be a spaz and control yourself? Jesus it's not hard unless your autistic or retarded.

>>135355

>advocating for someone to go to a board ran by a disgusting tranny and Reddit

This is why nobody takes you guys seriously.


 No.135379

>>135377

was on /r/socialism for all of 20 seconds. it's just a bunch of faggot neolibs that want to suck off black people and larp about socialism.

>>135371

definition of what capitalism or the problems inherent in it?

I would probably describe capitalism as ANY system that creates class struggle and sets workers in competition with one another. There's more basic definitions about free markets and profit motives and such but that misses out on the more subtle and central aspects, which has to do with the utopianism of personal success. Capitalism sets up success as an individualistic thing, and the social benefits are merely a byproduct.

The problems with this are countless.


 No.135381

Your best bet would probably be to kill yourself, you stupid nigger. That, or just get off the Chan’s all together for a bit.

The most retarded thing you could do is ask leftypol how to deradicalize, cause these faggots will just try to make you a dirty commie. So, given that you’ve already done the full retard bit it’d do the whole world a favor if you just necked yourself.


 No.135382

>>135377

>>135379

If your biggest issue was about race then learning to suck off black people why you'd need to go there. That's why you need to go to /leftypol/ too. If you want use that or hire a social worker like I said.


 No.135383

Your real problem is being a massive autist, if you became a socislist you'd just embarrass yourself in a different way.

>>135377

>This is why nobody takes you guys seriously

he's trying to get OP to leave

>>135379

>I would probably describe capitalism as ANY system that creates class struggle and sets workers in competition with one another.

All class systems create class struggle and pits the underclass(es) against each other fam. Here is an alright reader on capitalism http://libcom.org/library/capitalism-introduction


 No.135384

File: 217a4902658bddf⋯.gif (1.9 MB, 400x267, 400:267, come at me.gif)

>>135381

nah, dose of communism would probably balance me out nicely. having my identity around class rather than race sounds like it would be a decent antidote.

also you're a fucking faggot


 No.135385

>>135337

>How do I deradicalize?

If you're on the left and you are deradicalizing that just makes you sargon of akkad.

The eternal centrist who is never wrong because he doesnt have an opinion on anything.


 No.135386

File: 3724bac2c6ff182⋯.png (61.98 KB, 201x224, 201:224, 9c26821c09c583e9f38850a7b7….png)

>>135384

Based.


 No.135388

>>135382

the thing is it's so artificial. I don't give a fuck about minorities. I'm not a minority (yet) and so any empathy or feelings of solidarity would be a fucking lie. literally all of that shit coming from the left stinks of just bougie white liberals patting themselves on the back as they commodify the struggles of blacks for their own consumption. It's fucking token integration and solidarity. like black panther: "oh look honey, this movie has ALL black super heroes!! what a victory!!"

I don't do that shit


 No.135389

>>135385

I'm far right accelerationist you fucking retard. read the op before you respond.

here's a nice little number so you can see what page I'm on >>135344


 No.135391

File: 5e0f7c7657bdac4⋯.mp4 (6.4 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Der Heimliche Aufmarch.mp4)

>>135388

>literally all of that shit coming from the left stinks of just bougie white liberals patting themselves on the back as they commodify the struggles of blacks for their own consumption

Based and redpilled.


 No.135392

>when you’ve gone too deep down the rabbit-hole and want to put the blinders on

You can’t go back without willingly deceiving yourself. I’ve tried it too but I can’t stop myself from believing in racial differences, the Jewish question and that Hitler did nothing wrong. Looking into leftist made me more cynical on capitalism but beyond that I’m still pretty fashy. Just embrace it


 No.135394

>>135389

Ah you are one of those people who can only be extreme left or extreme right?

I dont think this entire website is a healthy place for you to be.


 No.135395

>>135394

I don't think in terms of left and right. I'm a grab bag of different policies from all across the political spectrum. I don't subscribe to ideology. But there are certain views and aspects of identity that treat as more central and when those are infringed upon I suffer. The problem is that my identity as a European is actually incredibly narrow, and so gets infringed upon a lot. I'm here not to go extreme left, but to switch chambers to see if I can pick up on a way of self-identifying that is a bit bigger and not constantly under existential threat.


 No.135396

File: 07045f0b0287665⋯.jpg (62.34 KB, 975x567, 325:189, truth.jpg)

>>135395

>>135395

>I don't think in terms of left and right

That is great for you but I was talking to the guy who called himself a far right accelerationist.


 No.135397

File: 47fede9eb6762f9⋯.jpg (22.8 KB, 500x318, 250:159, political compas.jpg)

>>135396

>that pic

Uhm sweaty, this is the real political spectrum


 No.135398

>>135396

Yeah, that was me. A large aspect of me is a far right accelerationist. Another large aspect of me economically anticapitalist. Another large aspect of me is a technocratic futurist. Again I'm not here to explore an ideology, but to find a broader central identity than an ethnic European.


 No.135400

File: 97c2499537fd51e⋯.jpg (27.7 KB, 596x283, 596:283, danney-willlliams-clinton.jpg)

>>135398

I think you may have something called multiple personality disorder.


 No.135401

>>135396

also

>fucking neoliberalism next to libertarianism

sweet fucking christ why are you talking?


 No.135404

>>135400

It's called intelligence. being able to hold and reconcile multiple viewpoints.

Go back to /r/againsthatesubreddits and take your fucking left-right myopia with you you fucking faggot


 No.135405

File: 852e93e491eb8a8⋯.jpg (59.47 KB, 542x810, 271:405, landedonsatan.jpg)

>>135401

Would it blow your mind if I told you I didnt actually make that image?


 No.135406

>>135398

> technocratic futurist

holy shit

read ted k you absolute nigger

technophilia is not a good thing


 No.135408

>>135405

would it blow your mind that you posting it is indicative of your agreement with it?


 No.135410

>>135337

>I've been wanting to deradicalize

Boy, are you ever in the wrong place.

>I was at fucking MEPS of all places

Don't fucking do it. There is no explaining what it is like to be owned by someone who does not give two shits for you.

>Connection to and reverence for a culture and country goes deeper than waving a fucking flag or speaking the language.

No, it really doesn't when you get right down to it. The Americans are living proof of that. Hell, so are the Europeans when you actually think about it. What are "Germans" if not a nineteenth century invention cobbled together from the remains of various Prussian, Bavarian, and other peoples? There is absolutely nothing there that is any deeper than a patriotic song and some fairy tales.

>identifying with that history and heritage

It is a mental exercise that is unique to the individual. History is not a shared experience, contrary to what pomo "historians" will tell you. It is merely a chronicle of things that have happened.

>>135388

>I'm not a minority (yet) and so any empathy or feelings of solidarity would be a fucking lie.

That is fine. Feelings do not matter, and class is not an identity that needs to be accepted into your heart like Jesus. Solidarity is acting along with other people who go through the same shit that you do in order put an end to said shit. The only reason that believing in imaginary shit like race is bad for you is that it keeps you from working with people who are the same kind of cogs as you are in the very same machine.


 No.135411

>>135404

Multiple personality disorder correlates with high premorbid intelligence.

IE before your disorder kicks in and redcuces your Autism Level you would have been one of the more intelligent people in society.


 No.135414

>>135410

> Prussian peoples

Get a load of you


 No.135415

>>135411

>.

I Meant to say lQ there but the word filter is retarded.


 No.135416

>>135408

I agree with the images I posted here

>>135405

>>135400

but not here

>>135396


 No.135418

>>135410

>That is fine. Feelings do not matter, and class is not an identity that needs to be accepted into your heart like Jesus. Solidarity is acting along with other people who go through the same shit that you do in order put an end to said shit. The only reason that believing in imaginary shit like race is bad for you is that it keeps you from working with people who are the same kind of cogs as you are in the very same machine.

This so much.


 No.135419

>>135406

> technocratic futurist

That just means he listens to vaporwave.


 No.135420

>>135410

>No, it really doesn't when you get right down to it

>same kind of cogs as you are in the very same machine.

You see? this is the kind of talking to I need.


 No.135422

>>135419

Nah I just think we should be mining asteroids and troubleshooting gene editing. I don't think technology is a be all end all for social issues, and is a huge cause of them a lot of the time. But I do think that technology is a frontier and humans need frontiers for their mental health, and so going balls out on that frontier would be good for us.


 No.135423

>>135382

You won't ever catch me dead knowingly browsing a board ran by a tranny. >>135383

If that is the case, it's retarded. You won't get anywhere with someone if you just try to chase them off and stick with anons with similar political views. It's why I love seeing discussions between libertarians and natsocs, it's nice. Currently /pol/ is nothing but cuckchan shitposting and spam at this point. Sometimes it has ok threads, SiG generals being one of them, especially if you're a newfags or want to improve yourself as an individual.


 No.135427

>>135422

>Nah I just think we should be mining asteroids and troubleshooting gene editing.

What has to be considdered here is who benefits under the current class system from these increases in technology and resource extraction. Communists are not by any stretch against technology, but we are against technology being developed and used by the current rulling class to keep their stranglehold on society.

>You won't ever catch me dead knowingly browsing a board ran by a tranny.

Well first, it's just a /pol/ meme they developed because their tranny porn got deleted, so they assumed it must be because they hit a nerve

And second, why the fuck does it matter even if leftypol was run by a tranny?


 No.135428

>>135379

>I would probably describe capitalism as ANY system that creates class struggle

Nope, for example feudalism isn't capitalism

>and sets workers in competition with one another

>There's more basic definitions about free markets and profit motives

Almost there, but not quite

>more subtle and central aspects, which has to do with the utopianism of personal success. Capitalism sets up success as an individualistic thing, and the social benefits are merely a byproduct.

The individualistic mindset IS a byproduct of economic forms.


 No.135429

>>135427

> why the fuck does it matter even if leftypol was run by a tranny?

Trannies are mentally ill attention whores. Since you’re a tankie you’re probably a tranny anyway. Only neurotypicals can understand the scourge for how it truly is


 No.135430

>>135427

>who benefits under the current class system from these increases in technology and resource extraction.

absolutely. ideally the resources would be used for manufacturing in space and trying to set up life off of earth for the survival of the society. and no matter whether the resources remained in space for the creation of starships or colonies, or made it back to earth, they would still be publicly owned


 No.135432

File: 0fe1ab634fac51c⋯.png (152.53 KB, 550x516, 275:258, 0fe1ab634fac51cf8e38e666ac….png)

>>135427

It's been confirmed multiple times, even before the video sprang up. And if you want evidence, just ask anyone in the QtDDtOT threads. Maybe you will get a response if they care enough.

>Who cares if they're a tranny

>Letting the mentally ill run and moderate your group

Yeah that always goes well doesn't it.


 No.135433

>>135429

>hurr if u dont hate trannies ur probably a tranny

/pol/ tier.


 No.135434

>cant stand slow board traffic

>concerned with various peoples identity on an anonymous forum

>browses boards concerned with IRL drama to the point it influences their speaking habits

Spot the cancer.


 No.135436

>>135432

>i have proof but just do ur own research

/pol/ tier.


 No.135437

>>135428

feudalism still had markets as well as competition between skilled laborers (knights, artists, jewellers etc). Ownership was not as varied as in capitalism, but it wasn't just monarchs and serfs.


 No.135443

File: 7580a9ed57671c1⋯.jpg (79.84 KB, 500x498, 250:249, 7580a9ed57671c1e005ae25b04….jpg)

>>135436

>I am not even going bother doing the research myself

Lazy-tier, especially since you are browsing a site where people contain it. Why don't you make an effort? Especially when I am pointing you to the right direction.


 No.135444

>>135433

>>135436

>everything is /pol/

Hello tranny, did you forget to dilate this morning? Your crotch wound may be closing up?


 No.135449

>>135448

Leftism = political Jewry, multikulti and globalization. You’ll never find anything different from the left


 No.135450

>>135443

>I'm not even going to bother posting the evidence that I have but ur lazy lmao ecks dee.

I went to the QTDDTOT and there is nothing that supports your claim.


 No.135451

>>135448

Yang? Although could be a half assed attempt. I would trust a Chinese politician, especially when he is basically China-lite.


 No.135452

>>135451

Wouldn't trust*

God damn.


 No.135454

>>135448

Zizek


 No.135456

>>135448

they don't look at YOU as an oppressor. no one gives a shit about you. they look at you as a benefactor of a system that for almost all of its history had preferences formed from stereotypes around race and gender.


 No.135457

>>135451

Racism now? Back to /pol/


 No.135463


 No.135465

>>135448

Some guys ancestors said that your ancestors did something bad so you have to be punished for it.


 No.135467

>>135465

t. whiteboi who’s scared to be held accountable for his settler crimes


 No.135468

>>135465

>>135448

Christians call it original sin. Leftpol calls it white privilege.

A common concept in a cult or religion to impose some sort of guilt on to people which isnt based on anything they have done personally. And then you can manipulate them in to doing what you want in order to absolve themselves of that guilt.


 No.135469

File: 6d83a0ee4e59f2f⋯.jpg (247.12 KB, 1371x914, 3:2, picrelateditsmeandmyhomies.jpg)

>>135467

Actually im fourth from the left in the back row of this pic.


 No.135472

>>135457

>ignoring race

Ok, let's pretend it doesn't exist for a moment.

>especially when the Chinese have a culture where stabbing people in the back is perfectly acceptable as long as you succeed

Asking for trouble.

>>135459

What are you going on about, did I miss something?Is this something he said?


 No.135476

>>135472

Never vote for chinks. They are like insectoids and will descend about the West like locusts and strip it dry


 No.135477

>>135465

again, bro. this isn't about punishment. it's about correcting for history that has produced insane inequality in terms of representation, power, and opportunity. and they're not trying to take power or money FROM YOU. they're trying to set it up so that IN THE FUTURE people won't just kneejerk into choosing the white male because they're conditioned into believing that they are the best.

as things even out it will calm down. chill.


 No.135478

>>135469

post hand with timestamp nigger


 No.135480

>>135477

Throughout history, representation, power, opportunity in Europe has always belonged to the Europeans.

Giving those things to non Europeans is not correcting history.

Im not blind. I can see that Nigeria isnt multicultural. Or any non white country.

The Ottoman empire was one of the most brutal imperial regimes. But nobody is replacing the Arabs in the middle east with Kenyans.


 No.135481

>>135437

>feudalism still had markets

There is however a qualitative difference between the markets and exchange of pre-capitalist period and capitalist markets.

>We recall these well-known facts in order to be able to define the characteristics of capitalism: with money one can buy land in any form; with money, individuals can buy masses of instruments and machines as they are invented and, in the same way, masses of raw materials or semi-finished products. Finally, masses of labor power or of labor time can be bought with money. In order for this to be possible, it is necessary for the workers to be free and therefore for the feudal lords to be dispossessed of their privileges; for the small-scale peasant farmers to be dispossessed of their lands and chattels; and for the artisans to be dispossessed of their workshops, of the instruments of labor and raw materials. In these conditions, money becomes a productive force because it can assume not just the form of commercial or bank capital, but that of real estate or industrial capital, depending on whether it is invested in land, buildings, tools, machinery, etc.

It is under capitalism that money and markets at last assume leading role and the cycle of accumulating capital(M-C-M') has begins. Additionally skilled laborers(and unskilled peasant serfs too!) are all crushed by market competition and become wagies. So you were actually right with that profit motive and market, but that's because everyone becomes slave to the very market economy itself, the "individual" simply becomes a post-hoc justification.

As implied above, another important point of capitalism is socialization of labor.

>The nature of capitalism, on the other hand, is distinguished by the concentration of property in the means of production, the masses of products, and economic management. The capitalist state assures the bourgeois class of its disposition and monopoly over the products; this is what is essential and what determines the social and historical dispute over the control of the mass of products.

Whereas previously the vast majority of population were peasants living of small plots of land, as well as small urbanite shopkeepers, manufacturers and artisans, ie. small producers. But under capitalism labour becomes socialised, with big companies and labour unified in bigger productive units.

The beginning of this process of socialization was also when national consciousness entered the stage. The 19th century nationalism was not merely championing nations, but also unified national markets. Before that peasant mass identified with the immediate locality(eg. in Eastern Europe some people self-identified as "tutejszy", ie. "from here"), with feudal ruler and so on. But the market forces threw them from their village into a bigger world, which was a significant factor in the uprooted peasants becoming "nationals" as they now operated and thought on a national scale. And I think you are already aware that the march of the globalizing market forces continues, rotting away smaller national identities in favour of more global ones which mentally correspond better to the current material reality of people.


 No.135483

>>135479

The truth hurts. Whites live with the burden of the millions they’ve genocided. Those days are over


 No.135484

The idea that conservatism is “punk rock” or edge lord is pathetic. You are fighting for a system that holds back everyone but the elite. While pretending you are fighting some sort of “liberal power”

It actuality conservatism is the ultimate cozy up to the rich elite. You are fighting for the man to control you while complaining about control. Don’t let them trick you with buzz words. Progressive stances are always the right side of history.

Conservatism has always tried to project it self as cool and against the system. Yet it is the definition of the system that you rail against.


 No.135485

>>135480

I'm talking about America you butt fucking faggot. Don't know the last time you checked statistics but Europe is 85% European


 No.135488

All the words like faggot and homo and nigger are just pathetic attempts to sound edgy. It’s like saying fuck you to your mom when you are a teenager. You think you are rebelling against authority when you are only hurting yourself and you character.


 No.135489

>>135480

Solid

>>135485

>Missing the point

Hot damn, it still applies, especially when America throughout most of it's history was European.


 No.135490

>>135488

Who are you quoting?

>It's for the edge

Not at all, I say those words because I like them. It's retards like you that make these words a big deal in the first place.


 No.135492

>>135486

>You are like trying to recruit black man in to the KKK, give up.

<le oppressed is the REAL oppressor meme

White supremacist detected. This is the settler mentality.

>People like you are the cancer of the left, trying to use some kind of false 'justice fight' as your excuse for being bitter and hateful towards people who you never met and who never did nothing wrong to you.

This is the real left, you’re gonna be left behind. This is racial and social justice of the melinated versus the whites, who enslaved, cleansed and genocided all else in pursuit of profit. You LIVE OF THE FRUITS OF WHITE SUPREMACY TO THIS VERY DAY AND SO YOU CARRY THE SAME GUILT

>Lets say you were correct, you expect me to just accept being discriminated against?

Yes. Reactionaries would fight back

> Ally with people who even go so far as to call for my death based on race? idiotic… and dangerous.

“Dangerous” You sound like a liberal


 No.135493

>>135485

> Don't know the last time you checked statistics but Europe is 85% European

I just checked the stats on your behalf and Nigeria is 99.9% Nigerian. Poltards would kill for an ethnostate that pure.

Me, I just think that people should remain in their own countries and most of these problems wouldnt exist. From what we constantly hear in the news, none native people are pretty unhappy here.

It always makes me sad when people say that certain migrant groups are moving to the west for 'revenge' over something that happened a hundred years ago. You shouldnt be using your life to fuck up someone elses country based on something that may or may not have happened years before you were born.


 No.135495

>>135481

>has begins

I should finally learn to read before I post.


 No.135496

File: c079621cbe9ccf9⋯.png (1.31 MB, 981x1453, 981:1453, 1_F9KJojz-HOjl-0fcfLN0eQ.png)

>>135337

>The main thing is European culture, identifying with that history and heritage, and the desire to preserve it, at least the good parts

Well I wouldn't bother with the far right, then. Sharper minds than mine have observed how they fuck cultural matters up:

[analysis of image attached]

This is a good place to start analyzing symbolism; there’s a lot to unpack in this image. Iconographically, thematically, spatially, visually, this is the crystallization of the warrior self that these men aspire to.

The dark mob of summarizes a laundry list of alleged threats to the Western world: Jewish people (depicted as a spider, orchestrating the mob), gay people (represented by the rainbow flag), feminists and transgender women (beneath the ‘female symbol’), Black Lives Matter activists, Communists (the hammer and sickle sweater and Marx-looking man) and, in the lead, what can only be Donald Trump’s mental image of MS-13 — a caricature of a gang-affiliated Black man.

Personifying the viewer are the two warriors at the bottom, representing two popular sources for white nationalist identity — Nordic (the Viking, bottom left), and English/Italian (the Crusader, bottom right).

Of course, those ancestries are definitionally not white nationalists; they are ethnic identities predating the invention of race. This strik as ironic — the white nationalists are the primary perpetrators of “white genocide” or “white erasure.” In constructing their universally superior “White Race,” they’ve ground the unique cultures of so many different national identities into a fine, White powder.

The iconography of the alt-right is an amalgam of peoples with varying religious beliefs, at time serious sectarian divides, and military histories of literally being at each others’ throats for lengthy periods of ethnically defined war, verging on genocide. All this seems to escape these consumers of history; they are only white.

The Black Sun (Sonnenrad)

The Sonnenrad, a recurrent symbol of white nationalism, epitomizes this ahistorical process of pastiche-self creation. This is a Sonnenrad, or Black Sun — originally a symbol of the occult, but later appropriated by Nazi Germany. It appears in the upper right hand corner of the battle image above — look carefully at the sun that shines light on the host of dark beasts approaching the two warriors at the bottom. If you’re curious about its history, you can read about at least one instance of its use — in the halls of the German SS forces here. You’ll see more of this symbol later.

https://medium.com/@notcolloquial/a-network-analysis-of-white-nationalism-the-recruitment-pipeline-from-alt-lite-to-alt-right-part-66ae33f101bf

There's nothing wrong with postmodern bricolage in itself, imho, as long as you're aware that is what your doing. As long as you don't think you're being "authentic" to anything.

Are you near a university? Many run short night courses. Just sign up for one on whatever parts of European culture interest you.(who knows… , you might meet the girl of your dreams there too… It's easy to chat people up when you have unusual interests in common.)

Or if you're broke, don't have the course fee, or are nowhere near a uni, have a look online

. If, you're interested in the runes, for example , there's a free online course in Old Norse:

https://notendur.hi.is/~haukurth/norse/

And a group you can join:

www.rune-gild.org (with probably some shady right wingers in it, but that's not going to be their main business.)

>>135341

Also, go to >>>/leftypol/ or >>>/marx/, this board is trash

Good advice.

There's no one here but NazBols, brocialists, and low lifes.

>>135340

>this point there's no difference between American, British, German and Scandinavian culture. We all watch dumb fuck hollywood movies, we engage in the same dumb fuck consumer culture that they do, and it has nothing to do with immigration

I love American culture.

Blues and jazz.

Hitchcock movies.

William S. Burroughs novels.


 No.135497

>>135494

>My question to all the whites who read this and go along, is why?

Because we know that's a troll


 No.135498

>>135340

Or not socialism.


 No.135499

>>135340

Scandinavians watching hollywood amerimutt movies is the reason their countries are all overrun with non scandinavians.


 No.135500

>>135486

this is the most boomer fearpost i've ever seen.

white men are over-represented in positions of power, wealth and influence. and evening things out isn't going to lead to some crazy fucking genocide. you need to stop going on /pol/ dude, most of your fears are just from consuming the same shit over and over and over again.

>>135493

>should remain in their own countries

someone should have told your ancestors that, or your presidents as they smash all through the middle east making it unlivable. go read about colonialism. AND NOT ON /POL/ you fucking idiot. it wasn't rainbows and railroads. it was insanely destructive and destablizing to the entire continent of Africa. Not saying it would be wakanda without, but they sure as shit would be more stable than they are today.

These things happening isn't revenge, they're consequences. do you know the difference between those two things?


 No.135502

>>135498

Nation AL socialism

Gay ass word filter. It is socialism, with a racial component.


 No.135503

>>135494

They realize the crimes of their ancestors and accept what has been done, because they actually have a soul. You think guilt goes away as soon as the original people are gone? The Germans know the truth of their crimes, as should all whites


 No.135505

>>135501

>It's not

It is, this board isn't woke twitter.

Also I'm sorry for that anon, I spoiled his fun.


 No.135506

>>135414

Do you actually think that Prussians were one coherent and unified people? Hell no. Each region of old Prussia even has its own dialect. My grandmother used to, with great disdain, call the German spoken by people in Berlin "Low German."


 No.135508

>>135501

You are a reactionary. Everyone is in agreement with the need to destroy white supremacy and forcing the reactionary race to make amends to

our brown brothers and sisters. Only crypto-reactionary caucasians like you think there is something that needs to be stopped. You’re white privilege clouds your mind. You CAN’T FACE THE GUILT.

YOUR HANDS DRIP WITH BLOOD


 No.135509

>>135502

There was nothing socialist about nazi germany, it was purely an aesthetic move to trick the Marxist working class.


 No.135510

File: 6be4ec18745c314⋯.jpg (16.57 KB, 630x354, 105:59, USAT20703647_640x480_1.jpg)

>>135496

>I love American culture.

>Blues and jazz.

>Hitchcock movies.

> William S. Burroughs novels.

OMG YOU RACIST I AM FIGURATIVELY, LITERALLY AND METAPHORICALLY SHAKING


 No.135511

>>135496

you're preaching to the choir retard. I am far right.


 No.135512

>>135509

>le workers are dumb drones

FUCK THIS BOARD IS CRYPTO FASCIST


 No.135513

>>135502

>It is socialism

Nigga please, "privatization" was first used to describe economic policies of Nazi Germany.

>>135507

I'm not an ameriburger, so we don't have those radlib retards here.


 No.135514

>>135496

>a super obvious image is explained super obviously

Was this supposed to be smart?


 No.135516

>>135509

They did come up with the worlds first welfare system and de facto government ownership of the means of production. As well as government control over the market with policies like price and wage fixing, controling the supply of certain goods.

Also programs like socialised car buying. Socialised holidays. Public health schemes. Anti animal cruelty stuff.

But apart from that they werent socialists.


 No.135517

>>135493

Nothing wrong with that, I would even agree for the most part.

>>135500

>white men are over-represented in positions of power, wealth and influence

Wow who would of guessed the most successful group in this category would be overrepresented? Especially when alot of them are Jews larping as whites nearly half the time.

>smash all through the middle east making it unlivable

I'll agree we should have fucked off from the middle East and let them worry about their own issues. Some would argue though that if the Soviets successfully invaded Afghanistan radical Islam may have never gotten has big as it has today.

go read about colonialism. AND NOT ON /POL/ you fucking idiot. it wasn't rainbows and railroads. it was insanely destructive and destablizing to the entire continent of Africa. Not saying it would be wakanda without, but they sure as shit would be more stable than they are today.

Africa is shit either way, but back in the day under the colonists they had much better lifes than whatever little civilization they had. They got to enjoy a decent amount of first world luxuries they wood of never imagined. Go look up videos on YouTube about Africans talking about how much nicer it was with the colonists around. The Chinese even talk shit to them about how they couldn't even maintain what was left for them, and the guy annoyingly stays silent because he knows it's true.


 No.135518

>>135514

DiD yOu KnOw HiTlEr WaS a NaZi!?!?


 No.135519

File: 75b22c104e6e279⋯.jpg (2.61 MB, 3256x2808, 407:351, 75b22c104e6e2794c3ff242101….jpg)

>>135516

>They did come up with the worlds first welfare system and de facto government ownership of the means of production.

Yeah, nah.


 No.135520

File: 75e80b259ad6cb7⋯.jpeg (55.94 KB, 666x803, 666:803, Dq2fjdhWwAENM9G.jpeg)

>>135516

>welfare and nationalization is socialism


 No.135521

>>135519

You could just as easily find socialist parties today doing and saything the exact same thing.

One of the main things about implementing socialism is that you have to lie about it. Or people will just reject you outright.

Germany HAD to implement socialism to rebuild their country. The free market was never going to do that.


 No.135522

>>135517

Holy shit I fucked up the greentext, I really need to proof read

>go read about colonialism. AND NOT ON /POL/ you fucking idiot. it wasn't rainbows and railroads. it was insanely destructive and destablizing to the entire continent of Africa. Not saying it would be wakanda without, but they sure as shit would be more stable than they are today.

Africa is shit either way, but back in the day under the colonists they had much better lifes than whatever little civilization they had. They got to enjoy a decent amount of first world luxuries they wood of never imagined. Go look up videos on YouTube about Africans talking about how much nicer it was with the colonists around. The Chinese even talk shit to them about how they couldn't even maintain what was left for them, and the guy annoyingly stays silent because he knows it's true.

Fixed to make it easier to read.


 No.135523

>>135520

>>welfare and nationalization is socialism

Those concepts have been fundamental to modern socialism ever since the nazis invented it.

You could argue that all modern socialist parties are closer to the nationaI socialists than anything that came before.


 No.135524

>>135521

>You could just as easily find socialist parties today doing and saything the exact same thing.

Then they clearly aren't socialist.

>One of the main things about implementing socialism is that you have to lie about it. Or people will just reject you outright.

What does this even mean?

>Germany HAD to implement socialism to rebuild their country.

Then why didn't they?


 No.135525


 No.135526

>>135492

Hey, /pol/, what'cha doing?


 No.135527

File: 86fbe08378411b0⋯.jpg (161.07 KB, 2160x1215, 16:9, 1497295749994.jpg)

>>135523

>nazis r da weal soshalists


 No.135528

>>135516

>They did come up with the worlds first welfare system and de facto government ownership of the means of production. As well as government control over the market with policies like price and wage fixing, controling the supply of certain goods.

>Also programs like socialised car buying. Socialised holidays. Public health schemes. Anti animal cruelty stuff.

Welfare statism and interventionism in the economy s not socialism unless you're retarded enough to buy into screeching that free college is literally Stalin.

>>135523

>since the nazis invented it.

This shit has been in the programme of reformist socdems for many years before anyone gave a shit about Hitler.


 No.135529

What if I educated you with the knowledge that the NationaI socialists were socialists but they werent nationalists?


 No.135530

>>135528

> unless you're retarded enough to buy into screeching that free college is literally Stalin.

I think we have established beyond question that Hitler iwas the most recognizable socialist.

So I would say free college is literally Hitler.


 No.135531

>>135530

I think we have established that Hitler was by no means a socialist.


 No.135532

>>135531

He was a socialist allright. But by no means a nationalist.


 No.135533

>>135519

>le meme image

Funny how you can’t argue against it with your own words


 No.135534

>>135532

Okay I thought you were serious untill now.


 No.135535

>>135534

Nationalists don’t invade other people’s countries, fascist


 No.135536


 No.135537

>>135511

>you're preaching to the choir retard. I am far right.

You weren't telling the truth then, were you?:

>I've been wanting to deradicalize a bit from the far right

Fuck off and stop wasting everyone's time.

>>135510

>OMG YOU RACIST I AM FIGURATIVELY, LITERALLY AND METAPHORICALLY SHAKING

Did you just see the image and read the end piece? The important bit is the C. V. quote which is a critical of the( racist) image.

>>135514

>135496 (You)

>a super obvious image is explained super obviously

Was this supposed to be smart

You can fuck off as well.


 No.135538

File: 4bbea9fe0dd9b8b⋯.png (6.97 KB, 201x199, 201:199, 1404460279621.png)

>this thread


 No.135539

>>135537

>You can fuck off as well.

You’re just a pseud who explained the most OBVIOUS image in the world and gets ABSOLUTELY ASSBLASTED when he pointed out that anyone with a brain can figure out what it means. Was this your best analysis ever? Did you use all of your brainpower on it?

I never would have figured out what a spiderlike Jew lording over a horde of niggers, homosexuals and feminists would mean. WOW


 No.135540

>>135534

>Okay I thought you were serious untill now.

I was just demonstrating how silly it is to say that the nationaI socialists were not nationalist or socialist.


 No.135542

>>135540

No one is saying they weren't nationalists, but they clearly weren't socialists.


 No.135543

>>135542

I was saying they clearly werent nationalists.


 No.135545

>>135543

And you're clearly retarded.


 No.135546

>>135540

Your demonstration failed. Words have definitions.


 No.135547

>>135539

>You’re just a pseud who explained the most OBVIOUS image blah

My post, incl. the piece I quoted, wasn't just explanation of what the image meant only (which *is *obvious.)

It was an analysis of the cobbled together nature of white identity. - I think that's what you don't like about it, but can't /don't want to address.

>>people unlike 135539 i. e. who aren't disingenuous cunts

read it for yourself >>135496 earlier in the thread


 No.135550

File: 3659f8be2a39605⋯.png (689.14 KB, 800x807, 800:807, 1510834767.png)

I'm too late and sure OP doesn't care anymore but I could not stop thinking about this thread when taking a shower.

Yes, for leftists any identity beyond the individual is frivolous but those radlibs you've seen fail to explain why. National identity just like any other identity is something you don't choose and we should not be happy about that, capitalism is burying that tragedy by selling you stuff that contents you about it when the solution will be to choose one that fits you better but that's impossible and unless we admit it's a tragedy then we will only perpetuate the spooks/ideology that torments at the moment.

National identity is particularly perverse because it's always made up to fit an agenda. You nationality has nothing to do with the countries history and current material conditions, the national image you've been sold it's a fantasy of what will it be if you completely submit to the bourgeois but that will never happen because such thing will only destroy you and you country.

Beside that if western culture concerns you should know the soviet union were the biggest defenders of it. the soviet wanted every one to have access to art, they build museums and concert halls and with state patronage they filled them with art that was respectful to the western tradition. Nazis on the other end knew shit about art and for them it was just a badge to show off how smart they were without understanding any substance behind it and at the end art would had been a thing for rich assholes leaving the common people defranchised from western culture.


 No.135551

>>135547

Dumb nigger


 No.135552

>>135546

Correct. Allow me to provide the definitions for you;

National

>adjective

>adjective: national

> relating to or characteristic of a nation; common to a whole nation.

>noun

>noun: national; plural noun: nationals

> a citizen of a particular country.

Socialism

>noun

>a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.


 No.135553

>>135337

MEPS huh?….cant wait to put my NCO boot in your ass. see you in the AOR boot.


 No.135554

>>135552

>a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

Hence NutSac is not socialism.


 No.135556

>>135554

You're thinking of social nationalism.

Which beyond question is nationalist. It even has nationalist in the name duhh.


 No.135557

>>135556

You have brain damage.


 No.135560

>>135557

Its OK I know how you feel.

I resorted to insults when I lost an argument yesterday.


 No.135561

>>135557

>Marxist intellectualism


 No.135563

Reminder that the Left is and always has been the true inheritor of Western Enlightenment ideas and virtues.


 No.135564

>>135563

How come they hate western enlightenment ideas and virtues so much then?


 No.135565

>>135563

>>135564

>they

I mean we… Fellow leftist.


 No.135568

>>135560

No, he clearly bested you. He is insulting you, because you appear to be too stupid to construct a coherent argument.


 No.135571

>>135568

Wat?

He didnt even realize that national in national sociaIism just means the whole country and doesnt even referr to nationalism.


 No.135574

this whole nationalist thing is being pushed onto people to force them fight themselves instead of the upper class. /pol/ keeps talking about how they understand the big plan but are failling straight into the divide and conquer tactic like a bunch of retards. akk because they are too afraid of leaving their eco chamber


 No.135576

>>135574

purge the faggots and niggerspics from your group and we can talk about the upper class.

(what else)

 No.135577

faggot


 No.135578

>>135571

From Mein Kampf

>I developed very rapidly in the nationalist direction, and by the time I was 15 years old I had come to understand the distinction between dynastic patriotism and nationalism based on the concept of folk, or people, my inclination being entirely in favour of the latter.

>The spirit of nationalism and a feeling for social justice must be fused into one sentiment in the hearts of the youth. (lol at Hitler being the OG social justice warrior)


 No.135581

>>135337

>Christ on a bike this shit is slow.

We are smaller than pol, and leftpol is even smaller than leftypol

>Anyway, caught myself saying nigger out loud spontaneously in a crowded place

wew lad

>The main thing is European culture, identifying with that history and heritage, and the desire to preserve it, at least the good parts.

There is nothing wrong with wanting to preserve things of your culture that are dear to your heart and you view as positive. You think communists are any different? I want to preserve the good parts of my culture as well (and get rid of the shit parts)

>(shaun and three arrows) largely just shrug off any sense of western culture or identity

There isnt a real pan-european identity though. Most europeans dont really like other europeans, and even within countries in europe there are cultural differences and dislikes of each other. There are some general trends, not really universally held cultural beliefs or customs.

>The whole notion of national identity, or really any identity past the individual, seems to be almost comical to the left.

I think youre really overestimating the impact of immigration on a culture. Hell, americanization has had much larger (and much more negative) impact on our culture than the immigrants since 1900, and no americans moved here, its just cultural imperialism.

>Connection to and reverence for a culture and country goes deeper than waving a fucking flag or speaking the language

Growing up in a nation, if well integrated, is much more impactful on someone than their parents ethnicity. A chinese kid who grew up here is much more part of my culture than the child of people who emigrated away from my country, they share my language, they share my values, etc. But the problem of cultural segregation in modern western society is a huge issue, and creates societies within societies.

>How should I work around this or move forward? My identity with my culture and ancestry is not something I can shrug off.

You shouldnt shrug off your beliefs, your language, your identity. Though realise that even though you might be american, german, dutch, chinese, indian, romanian, russian, japanese, bantu or zulu, we are all workers and we live in this world together. Even if those other groups might not share all of our values, we can still easily get along, work together, and be friends.

It is perfectly normal to prefer hanging out with people who share your culture, who you have an understanding with of what is and is not normal to you, to share inside jokes and references, to know the same places and same stories and ideas. It makes you feel safer. There are some people who say "after i lived abroad i became a citizen of the world", I do not ascribe to that. After having lived in china I have only become more conscious of what makes my culture unique, and what I like about it. It also made me realize better what aspects of it are not that good though, and despite me preferring people from my own country, and specifically people from my own city and demographic, I still got along fine with the chinese, and had lots of fun. There were things I found unusual about their culture, and things I thought were absolutely retarded, but there were also aspects that were good. Its not really objectively worse or better than my own, though since I am human, the negatives weigh stronger emotionally.

You need to relax. Almost nobody here advocates mass migrations. Your culture will not disappear because of immigrants. Raise your friends, the youth you meet and your children in the way that is emphasises what you hold as important. And remember, you feel like some aspects of your culture are good, and dislike other parts. Another person claiming the same may like and dislike the opposite things that you do. Your children will not hold the exact same values as you do, and that is okay, no child in history ever had. Culture is a collaborative, organic thing. Contribute your part, but stop thinking it is some kind of unchanging monolith that is perfect and should be unchangeable, as you yourself already want it to change to get rid of the parts you dislike.


 No.135582

Calling hitler a socialist only shows what little understanding you have of politics or history. Just cause it says “socialist” does not make it so. The idea of “social justice” from hitler is killing people you don’t like in the name of society. That is not socialism. I know it is confusing. Like the earth is flat because when I look at the horizon it looks flat. Things are not always what they appear from your narrow understanding of existence.


 No.135583

Culture is fake. We all designate the things that are in “our culture” and the things we don’t like are from somewhere else.

Religion is fake, culture is fake. Wake up to the fact that we build these things to lift ourselves up from those around us.

If you want a real “red pill” to wake up from the matrix… there it is.


 No.135584

>>135578

Are you trying to say that Hitler was a Social Nationalist?


 No.135586

>>135584

If you don't know what I'm trying to say at this point, I'm afraid I wont be able to communicate it to you.


 No.135588

>>135586

I can only to apologize to you and all the other hitler experts itt.


 No.135589

>>135588

Thank you, and take this as a lesson to never talk about anything ever again.


 No.135590

>>135337

lol, i wonder if you blerted out faggot by accident if you'd go and take a dick up the ass as a way to deradicalize.

seriously, no one here has anything for you if you actually give a shit about your people and your nation, if you want to chill out a bit log off the chans and concentrate on your life, if you spend too much time in places like this, left or right you're gonna come across as a radical to the normies….go live real life for a bit,both sides have a spectrum you're surrounding yourself with a far end of one side of the spectrum,in short you can mellow out without having to go suck a nigger dick to do it.

i'm a lot like you, i care a whole lot less about all of this other retarded bullshit than i do about protecting my country and my people, the tards here are trying to tell you that you have no people, no culture, country doesn't matter, ect…you know this isn't for you….log off the chans, get your head right in the real world, come here in small doses so you don't lose grasp on the larger reality that most people live in….this goes for the faggots on the left as well, everyone does this shit, spends too much time on boards circle jerking each other off in some crazy spiral to the far end of the spectrum to the point that they have a hard time operating in the real world without looking like a complete idiot…problem is due to society it's much more dangerous to tip your hand if you're on the right than if you're on the left….you've been on the chans to long, log the fuck off, go live IRL for a bit and come back to check in on things, nothing here matters in the real world anyways, we're all a bunch of ineffectual retards that are incapable of actually doing anything….you're not going to miss shit.


 No.135594

contrapoints contrapoints contrapoints!


 No.135597

>>135588

Checked.

>>135589

>never talk about anything ever again.

I have a few subjects I am good at. Believe it or not.

What if I just stop talking about Hitler and leave that to the true scholars of Hitler such as your good self? I can always learn by osmosis.


 No.135603

>>135578

Mein Kampf was fabricated by the kik.es


 No.135609

>>135594

https://youtu.be/9bbINLWtMKI

yes, this is exactly the sort of faggotory you should start supporting now OP. lol…like i said, you don't got to start sucking cock just because you let a n-bomb slip out. that's retarded. just off the chans for a bit and spend some time in the real world so you get used to CULTURAL norms again…lol, remember if there was no such thing as culture you wouldn't be ostracized for saying nigger in the first place….online forums are echo chamber circle jerks by their very nature, too much time on here, one way or another, left or right is going to end up with you making a fool of yourself in normie land…


 No.135614

>>135459

watch perverts guide to ideology


 No.135615

>Addressing his own party, the NSDAP, in Munich in August 1920, Hitler pledged his faith in socialist-racialism: "If we are socialists, then we must definitely be anti-semites - and the opposite, in that case, is Materialism and Mammonism, which we seek to oppose." There was loud applause. Hitler went on: "How, as a socialist, can you not be an anti-semite?"


 No.135708

>>135337

>faggots

>>135388

> bougie white liberals patting themselves on the back as they blah blah

>>135476

>chinks. They are like insectoids and will descend about the West like locusts an

>>135485

>butt fucking faggot

>>135576

>faggots and niggerspics

Ahhh the joy of well reasoned debate.

Is there anyone, white, black, brown , I wouldn't type " yellow" as that would indicate jaundice, but sort of a creamy colour, who could put forward a leftist position, and have it taken on its merits?

FWIW here is a wholesome-looking blond haired white man saying basically the same as what's already been posted about right wing postmodernism masquerading as the natural or obvious.

https://youtu.be/72arH1CznSY

>>135590

>go live real life for a bit,both sides have a spectrum you're surrounding yourself with a far end of one side of the spectrum,

Not bad advice,

>spend some time in the real world so you get used to CULTURAL norms again…lol, remember if there was no such thing as culture you wouldn't be ostracized for saying nigger in the first place

but I wouldn't try this bit in the East End https://youtu.be/Q3jKKeDrOuU


 No.135711

File: 4b837f37f28d21d⋯.jpg (92.42 KB, 623x1024, 623:1024, lesbian masturbation.jpg)

>>135708

what the fuck are you babbling about?

>waaaah bad words

>anyway, here's some fat retard talking about something that has nothing to do with right wing thought

identifying with one's history, ancestry, and culture, and seeking its preservation, didn't come about as a reaction to post-modernity. tribalism is one of the oldest qualities in human civilization. post-modernism and the deconstruction of identity is what is new. right wing thought, which is inherently collectivist and tribalistic, is old as dirt.

fucking kill yourself.


 No.135716

>>135711

>tribalism is one of the oldest qualities in human civilization

It might have been pre-historic, but not in human *civilization* it wasn't.

The Bronze Age was the period of cities, and the invention of writing. but it was organised in a hierarchical system run by priests, then later kings. not in tribes.

The Iron Age, after the Bronze Age collapse. was when societies were tribal.

>fucking kill yourself

Why do people say this?

No one's going to kill themself because some stray right wing nutjob on the Internet tells them to.


 No.135717

>>135708

==NIGGERLOVERS GO BACK TO /LEFTYPOL/


 No.135719

>>135615

>>135615

So basically Hitlers racism was inspired by socialism?


 No.135732

>>135719

Hitler's racism was inspired by his motherfucking a jew. Peak Oedipal Comlex.


 No.135735

>>135337

>I've been wanting to deradicalize a bit from the far right and spend some time on the other side of the creek, but then I come over here and you faggots post like once every 3 hours. Christ on a bike this shit is slow.

you are asking for instructions on how to brainwash yourself, lol


 No.135736

>>135735

Some people just arent comfortable with reality.


 No.135780

>>135738

I learned from the yellow vest movent that they are called 'les juifs'.

For some reason that is funny to me.


 No.135782

>>135716

>not in human civilization it wasn't

>the iron age was when societies were tribal

so you flat out contradict yourself and then the rest is just plain ignorance. every single empire and kingdom was tribalistic, and there was also clear ethnic lines and allegiance. read the old testament for fuck's sake, there was clear racial consciousness and tribalism, as well as in the history of ethiopians, persians, egyptians etc. ideas such as egalitarianism and universal brotherhood have been the mainstream culture for a vanishingly small amount of time, and even then are only partial. reality is not down for the count. people identify with their race, culture, and history today just as they always have.

>why do people say this

they say it because you're a faggot and the world would be better if you were dead, so they encourage you to just skip to the end and stop wasting everyone's time.

>>135735

>>135736

>>135738

it's not that I want to be brainwashed, I'm just getting absolutely crushed by the blackpill and need to be able to operate in the normie sphere without accidentally revealing my power level, whether subtly or obviously. this is mostly for professional reasons, but also a little bit personal because we're absolutely fucked as a race and culture. either bluepills or clownpills.


 No.135784

File: 28a00d9f322af29⋯.jpg (63.87 KB, 720x568, 90:71, fb_img_1466789664323.jpg)

>>135782

>so you flat out contradict yourself and then the rest is just plain ignorance. every single empire and kingdom was tribalistic, and there was also clear ethnic lines and allegiance. read the old testament for fuck's sake, there was clear racial consciousness and tribalism, as well as in the history of ethiopians, persians, egyptians etc. ideas such as egalitarianism and universal brotherhood have been the mainstream culture for a vanishingly small amount of time, and even then are only partial. reality is not down for the count. people identify with their race, culture, and history today just as they always have.

Yeah these tribes may have had a "racial consciousness" but that doesn't imply that these pre-modern societies wanted to anschluss one another. Plenty of these ethnic groups stayed put and didn't intervene in one another's affairs.

Ideological stuff such as pan-european fascism is modernist civilizational construction, there's no historical relevancy for modern idpol ideologies like pan-africanism, pan-eurasianism etc. If you believe such things like Richard Spencer does you are a modernist lmao.


 No.135786

>>135782

also none of the civs you just listed were "tribes" they were all empires or city-states or both.

>Egyptians are a fucking agricultural multi-ethnic empire

>Ethiopia another city-state not a "tribe"

>Persians are another multi-ethnic empire

You need to read.


 No.135787

File: 3074fd0ea631dc1⋯.gif (117.88 KB, 311x210, 311:210, good christ.gif)

>>135784

>didn't intervene in others affairs

and if you don't think most of history is kingdoms and empires with clear ethnicities slaughtering, conquering, and enslaving eachother then you're a post-modernist who seems to think history is just whatever happy fantasy you need to feel all warm inside.


 No.135788

>>135784

>>135782

Tribe and concepts of ethnicity related to tribe are not similar to "race" at all. Different groups of people who're almost genetically identical can be different tribes or different ethnicities that consider themselves miles apart.


 No.135789

>>135786

you're fixated on this word "tribe"

TRIBALISM is in group preference and out group suspicion or antagonism based on shared identity, though often it is ethnicity. this can be manifest in a group, a city state, a kingdom, an empire, a nation, a continent, you fucking name it.

you're arguing semantics for fuck's sake


 No.135791

>>135786

egyptian empire ruled over multiple ethnicities, that doesn't change the fact the kingdom was in the north and was populated largely by those of the levant. nubians were in the south, or are you some we wuz kangz revisionist?

Ethiopia was largely abyssinian.

Persian IS A FUCKING ETHNICITY YOU RETARD


 No.135792

>>135782

I don't think you can compare kingdoms/nations to tribes in this way. A tribe is by nature a group where you know every single member with whom you form a cohesive bond, where loyalty to a kingdom or nation is something that has to be ideologically imposed upon you.


 No.135793

Realize that east asians are the true master race. They've had high civilization for the longest time because of their high iq, creativity, and discipline. They're basically white people but whiter.


 No.135794


 No.135796

>>135794

So it's pure ideology with no actual basis and we should mock anyone who talks about it?


 No.135798

>>135796

no, it's a natural phenomena that arises from shared identity and collectivism. you have an in group and an out group. if you feel disdain for capitalists and solidarity with socialists you're being tribalistic. it has to do with group relations based on shared identity around something, be it ethnicity, culture, religion, or ideology. and it's as old as identity itself


 No.135799

>>135789

You overstate the importance of tribalism through history then. Yeah, us-vs them as related to ethnicity or city or whatnot has existed and has been an important force at various points and in various places, but theres been just as many times and places where it was wholly irrelevant compared to other notions with relatively little connection to 'muh ingroup' shit. Like rank, authority, power, faith, etc.

Some village of farmers didn't fear the mongol hordes because they were foreign invaders, they feared them because they didnt want their fields burned and their wives raped.


 No.135800

>>135799

that's a valid point, I'll think about what you've said


 No.135804

>>135782

>>>135716 (You)

>not in human civilization it wasn't

>the iron age was when societies were tribal

>so you flat out contradict yourself and then the rest is just plain ignorance. every single empire and kingdom was tribalistic, and there was also clear ethnic lines and allegiance. read the old testament for fuck's sake, there

Earliest estimates of when the Old Testament was written put parts of it in the 10th century BCE.

https://www.livescience.com/8008-bible-possibly-written-centuries-earlier-text-suggests.html

This puts it in the I r on. Age, which started around the 12th century BCE

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Age

So, at the risk of stating the obvious, the example of the Old Testament backs up what I posted.


 No.135806

>>135337

my man, the only thing you need is to get some info going onto your politically undeveloped mind. This place, this shitty ass imageboards and all imageboards for that matter is full of autistic motherfockers unable to concern themselves with anything and which are on the left just for fun. What you need is to read, but i understand that you may be too uncontextualized to do that. Watch ContraPoint's videos on the far right, we'll start from that (obbligatory contrapoints is a liberal piece of shit which is universally bad will follow).


 No.135809

>>135337

Autistic right-wing bootlicking for the nation state is not the same as patriotism. You can be patriotic and concerned about the people around you, and like your culture. Right-wing nationalism is not about that though, right-wing nationalism is just an excuse to suck up to whatever elites rule in your nation-state, or (if you are one of the elites) something to sell to the rubes while you sell out your own population. (Take, for example, the whole Trump phenomenon, where Retard-Man Trump talks about building a big wall and all the nasty brown people being rapists, but has not presented a single coherent solution and obviously has no interest in stopping the use of cheap foreign labor legal or no).

The immigration thing is honestly blown out of proportion to what it means for the people native to Western countries. It's just something offered to distract the people while the real culprit is proletarianization of much of the workforce which used to enjoy middle-class perks and a chance at education that has been either taken away from them, or turned into a total lie that does nothing but run up debt. The so-called meritocracy lies, cheats, and steals, and those left in the dust are conditioned to kick the people beneath them in order to keep themselves afloat. The reasons why this has happened as more complex than "durrr capitalism", but capitalism is a large part of what has happened.


 No.135813

>>135809

I hate this attempted distinction between patriotism and nationalism. It's just "Oh I'm a nationalist, but not like the nationalists, more like the good kind, ya know?"

>You can be patriotic and concerned about the people around you, and like your culture.

The people in your country is not the people around you, and I bet you don't give a flying fuck about that guy living 3 blocks down who, I bet 90% of the people living in your vicinity could be replaced strangers and you'd never even know.

And the only reason you like your culture is because it's familiar to you, not because it's actually a good culture. And also, liking your culture means you like capitalist culture, which means you're a bootlicking piece of shit.

If I lived in a socialist society, then I'd probably grow fund of my culture and I'd develop a kind of patriotism/nationalism, but as it stands, my country and my culture could vanish from the face of the earth and I wouldn't give a shit because it doesn't affect me in any meaningful way.

Rant over.


 No.135816

>>135782

I'll just repeat it, shall I?

">>135711

>tribalism is one of the oldest qualities in human civilization

It might have been pre-historic, but not in human *civilization* it wasn't.

The Bronze Age was the period of cities, and the invention of writing. but it was organised in a hierarchical system run by priests, then later kings. not in tribes.

The Iron Age, after the Bronze Age collapse. was when societies were tribal. "

–For those who missed this bit of primary school when they were age ten when it was explained:

The Bronze Age was when civilisation started, and it was followed by the Iron Age.


 No.135822

>>135340

the eternal Tank


 No.135823

>>135816

those were the best of times. no consent laws.


 No.135826

>>135813

I don't like my culture, but I can understand why for example China plays up national pride given its history and what colonialism did. Same with the other national liberation movements. That's something different from the race-autism of your typical NEETsoc which is almost entirely oriented around sucking up to whatever power structure is in place, whether it be a nation-state or a king. For what it's worth, these NEETsocs are quick to sell out their own supposed "people" when their masters tell them to do so.

I'm not some racial pride retard, far from it (I really don't give a shit either way). It's just worth pointing out that the right-wing autism regarding race is a placeholder for sucking up to power, rather than any coherently thought out understanding. That was the point I was trying to get across, not that there's some reason we ought to respect culture or race or nation-states, but that the right-wing conception of these issues is purely a matter of sucking up to whatever authority structure or power structure is in place. These right-wingers, in turn, are happy to sell out their own ostensible people when they praise capitalism and social Darwinism, as the behavior of your average /polack demonstrates.


 No.135831

File: 45a1de0b49b193f⋯.jpg (29.07 KB, 855x480, 57:32, Shika.jpg)

>>135432

>Letting the mentally ill run and moderate your group

>letting anyone moderate your group


 No.135832

File: 605326e884583b4⋯.jpg (9.25 KB, 220x255, 44:51, steben bolynu.jpg)


 No.135851

File: 69192c7d3f93dc5⋯.jpg (24.17 KB, 550x543, 550:543, brainlet.jpg)

>>135499

>shitty hollywood movies are the reason muh "shitskins" invade europe, not because of neoliberal policies of the eu that mirrors that of the US

Brainlet detected


 No.135865

Daily reminder for all you tankie faggots: You'll be the first to go when the revolution comes.


 No.135866

>>135865

t. anarkiddie who will be Kronstadt'd


 No.135867

>>135865

If history is anything to go by, it will be the other way around.


 No.135872

>>135865

>i kill u XD


 No.135899

File: d719318ff1127e3⋯.png (1.71 MB, 988x1264, 247:316, 1521299476048.png)

File: edcac5814b01c05⋯.jpg (823.08 KB, 2676x2024, 669:506, filthy degenerates.jpg)

File: 7226d8db533e607⋯.jpg (84.19 KB, 750x570, 25:19, 1523085279361.jpg)

>>135337

Read a book


 No.135918

>>135368

Moderators should ban themselves


 No.135919

File: a1b6d381cc9ade9⋯.png (35.56 KB, 1200x800, 3:2, 1200px-Black_Front_flag.sv….png)

File: 0f562cae424d497⋯.jpg (82.09 KB, 1000x1000, 1:1, Gregor-Strasser-1930.jpg)

You realize class politics > racial politics. That's it. It can even be done within the context of German not socialism.

"deradicalizing" isn't hard, because you've already gotten over the hump of realizing the normal left/right political scale is not reflective of reality. It's just picking capital flows over genetics.


 No.135946

>>135782

>it's not that I want to be brainwashed, I'm just getting absolutely crushed by the blackpill and need to be able to operate in the normie sphere without accidentally revealing my power level,

Again, you are looking for the world view that corresponds with reality, rather one that lets you cope. You are a stupid loser who wants to be brainwashed into believing a comfortable lie


 No.135951

>>135360

>Autism shaming

Read Foucault


 No.135953

>>135736

Reality is constructed and not objective


 No.135983

>>135410

>No, it really doesn't when you get right down to it. The Americans are living proof of that. Hell, so are the Europeans when you actually think about it.

When your thinking is confined to a hollow economism, it doesn't. That's the problem with people like you, there's nothing there with them, so there can't be anything there with anyone else.

>The only reason that believing in imaginary shit like race is bad for you is that it keeps you from working with people who are the same kind of cogs as you are in the very same machine.

Believing that there is some kind of machine that will collapse into a big pile of free stuff if only everyone pretended very hard that the nature of the world is as simplistic as this kind of thinking needs it to be doesn't do you good, it just means you'll be left empty handed by people not enthralled to such delusions.


 No.135998

>>135983

>When your thinking is confined to a hollow economism, it doesn't. That's the problem with people like you, there's nothing there with them, so there can't be anything there with anyone else

<the things I make up in my head are real, you doodiehead!

>Believing that there is some kind of machine that will collapse into a big pile of free stuff if only everyone pretended very hard that the nature of the world is as simplistic as this

…is a weak-ass strawman created by stupid people to explain the stuff that those smart people that they don't like talk about.


 No.136003

>>135998

<the things I make up in my head are real, you doodiehead!

Reality doesn't stop where you do.

>…is a weak-ass strawman created by stupid people to explain the stuff that those smart people that they don't like talk about.

If the intelligent people can give me a date when their national self-immolation gives them the socialism, I'll admit they're smarter than me.


 No.136006

>>135951

Autists need euthanasia. Drain on the resources of society and are a waste of life


 No.136104

>>136006

>People who have the personality fault of speaking the truth too much need to be killed

But why?


 No.136106

>>136003

Just going by this thread, what you will admit to is a poor reflection of reality.


 No.136107

File: e9a22ad0bcb0202⋯.jpg (179.01 KB, 1032x774, 4:3, Chris.jpg)

>>136104

If autists have a problem it is not "speaking the truth too much."


 No.136115

>>136107

All the shit that guy did is totally mainstream normie now. It just came off weird back then because he was a decade ahead of his time.


 No.143693


 No.143696

>>135371

>Chances are you can't even deliver a good definition of that.

it's the same issue with all anti-capitalist fascist movements, they identify capitalism as the issue, but will not address private property as the source.

>One of those implications is how national identities arose and destroyed local identities(as it has historically happened) and how pan-national/cosmopolitan identities slowly arise and rot away national identities(in progress)

An actual argument against fascism appears. good poast.


 No.143699

File: 7b0e0b7f0b50f92⋯.jpg (51.82 KB, 640x640, 1:1, 221375-Never-Get-High-On-Y….jpg)

>>135499

>>135340

Christ on a stick, why don't your faggot countries just make your own god damn movies. You're acting like people are forcing you to watch them at gun point. I bet you watch more Hollywood films than a good portion of America.

On that note when I was in highschool in LA we used to have industry people come to our class to give a talk and do a Q&A and of course the questions the retards asked everytime was:

>What moovies didju like dis year?

Most common response from these directors and producers and what not was:

(Scratches head for a minute)

>I don't really watch that many movies. Uhhh…. What movies came out this year?


 No.143701

>>136006

surely you jest, if it weren't for capitalist alienation they would work just fine. most are just people that would be considered normal several centuries ago. queers and trannies are literal products of capitalism pushing transgressive depictions of sexuality through various corporate channels. I digress though its 50% nature and 50% nurture though businesses promote this as a way to appear welcoming to the current year. I don't see the same thing for autism, which is 100% nature but the worst symptoms come out because, esp. with males (the largest demographic of spergs) have to deal with a society that values money over knowledge and the reason many are either "incel" or start engaging in gross tranny shit like Chris Chan does is because women in today's world are petit bourgeoise incarnate. they either don't get laid or use cheat codes to escape this. or alcoholism and alienate themselves further. and forget friends, the world in which we live is based on oversocialization. you come to us, we talk. you don't, we move on. simple as that. at least autistics (the ones who don't engage in queer crap or tranny crap, which most don't) can actually make kids. gays are a dead end, society just needs a transformation for autistics to be accepted. tbqh, I think a lot of leaders in the past whether monarchist, socialist, fascist, etc. were likely spergs. historically speaking.

>>136115

pretty much, those that pick the hard road and "path of most resistance" have a harder time adapting.


 No.143706

File: 4e404352829babe⋯.jpg (36.84 KB, 271x386, 271:386, Men_Who_Hate_Women.jpg)

File: 4c8f24c200f49f8⋯.jpg (105.27 KB, 220x323, 220:323, TrollHunter.jpg)

>>135983

>Believing that there is some kind of machine that will collapse into a big pile of free stuff if only everyone pretended very hard that the nature of the world is as simplistic as this kind of thinking needs it to be doesn't do you good

Just because we socialists believe capitalism is a harmful and inherently defective system doomed by its own internal contradictions, doesn't mean aside from the most armchair of leftcoms, perhaps that we believe socialism will naturally arise as a result of its collapse, but that socialist agitation is historically necessary for the preservation of civilization itself. In the words of Kautsky:

>As things stand today capitalist civilization cannot continue; we must either move forward into socialism or fall back into barbarism.

>>143699

Not a Scandi m'self, but their output seems more extreme than burgerstan, varying from cartoonish feminazi SJW self-caricature (1st pic, Sweden Yes!) to weird and genuine fun (2nd pic, Norwegian, natch).


 No.143708

>>143706

Why not Barbaric Socialism.


 No.143709

File: e7f569a8807e08f⋯.jpg (23.12 KB, 540x405, 4:3, vr-addict.jpg)

>>143708

Muh vidya


 No.143711

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>>143706

>Not a Scandi m'self, but their output seems more extreme than burgerstan, varying from cartoonish feminazi SJW self-caricature (1st pic, Sweden Yes!) to weird and genuine fun (2nd pic, Norwegian, natch).

America makes a lot of movies anon. We already remade that Girl With The Dragon Tattoo one. Torture porn is a big genre over here. Do they not bring those ones to Europe?


 No.143722

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>>143709

Ok….


 No.143732

>>135355

autism as perjorative is used by people who can't think in Cartesian abstraction and project envy on to those that can.


 No.143743

>>135538

honestly


 No.143746

>>135851

It would be much harder if not impossible to apply those neoliberal policies if the people weren't culturally contaminated with american cancer.

Thanks to murrican imperialism all murrican crap gets to insidiously infect the whole planet, watch tv anywhere on the west and it's entirely murrican cancer even the local programing mirrors the murrican cancer, go to youtube of any scandi nation and you'll always see a bunch of american crap trending.

Thanks to dumbfuckistan the whole world gets infected with non-sense idpol ideas, feminazism, faggotry and negro fetishism 24/7.


 No.143747

>>143699

>Christ on a stick, why don't your faggot countries just make your own god damn movies.

It ain't so simple. American cancer being omnipresent everywhere thanks to imperialism made it so that shit got so insidious that people consume it without realizing that they are consuming foreign poison.

It has gotten to the point where even if those faggot countries made their own movies they would probably just mirror the exact same cancer as the murrican cancer because people don't even recognize what is part of an foreign culture and what is actually part of their own culture anymore.


 No.143762

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>>143747

>It ain't so simple. American cancer being omnipresent everywhere thanks to imperialism made it so that shit got so insidious that people consume it without realizing that they are consuming foreign poison..

>>143746

>Thanks to dumbfuckistan the whole world gets infected with non-sense idpol ideas, feminazism, faggotry and negro fetishism 24/7.

That's a very nice and convenient reality you Euros live in. No responsibility for anything ever.


 No.143876

>>143747

Hollywood is a foreign country as far as I'm concerned.


 No.143877

>>143762

Lol, owned


 No.143879

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>>135337

YOU MUST READ HEGEL

To answer the national question, start with reading Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel. This relates to how French nationalism was so important for setting Europe in the true path. Don't even bother trying to read Marx without Hegel.

What you come across is the concept of "WeltGeist". Nations and great men can embody the spirit of entire eras, e.g. Caesar, Charlemagne, Frederick the Great, Napoleon, Bismarck, Hitler, Stalin. These people embody the truest truths of their time and nations may share this Truth with them, France, Germany Rome, America etc.

Now, entertain for a moment that a nation carries this Weltgeist fails or that a nation must once again carry the Weltgeist, this Truest Truth, the Absolute. What do you do?

IF YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO SACRIFICE YOUR NATION TO THE ALTAR TO SUMMON THE WELTGEIST, YOU CAN NEVER BE A LEFTIST

Look at what Lenin did to Russia. Lenin did nothing wrong. Lenin might've been a Marxist, but he was a Hegelian before a Marxist.


 No.143880

>>143762

you must be very ingenous to think that USA doesnt has virtually every other country grabbed by the balls, especially the EU. youre talking about all the NATO shit has if Europe is the one who's more benefited from it, when it actually benefits USA much more, so that it has military control it. And they are right about Hollywood, is not like people in Europe one day woke up and collectively decided that they would watch mostly american cinema. Starting from the fact that european cinema was really big in the early 20th century, there clearly was an acculturation process that took place after WW2, most probably because of the economic hegemony of USA (archieved through imperialism), which culminated in the 80s, with the rise of neoliberalism. It is true that nobody is pointing europeans at gun point to watch american cinema, but that is a reduction of the issue at hand. And in a lot of countries they did use violence, I'm talking about Latin America with the NUMEROUS US backed dictatorships which took down democratically elected left-leaning leaders (they tried to nationalize shit, taking it away from US companies), which then proceeded to liberalize the markets for the US to prey upon. This was done not specifically with the objective of making the foreign population watch Hollywood, but it still made the entrance for american capital and consequently, culture.


 No.143881

>>143879

i belived he despised idealists, not in the traditional meaning of the term, but refering to those who belive the history of humanity is a history of ideas, a meanign he himself popularized.


 No.143882

>>143881

i mean, talking about Lenin


 No.143892

>>143880

We're not deluded. You seem to forget the British empire Existed, and I've been seeing posts like "Israel dindu nuffin". This board is beyond fucked. Face it, soon you will come to a conclusion all humans are by nature, evil, and there's nothing you can do about that. It's predetermined.

Here, have some Tears For Fears and soak up that nihilism

https://youtu.be/U4zA0xnBEJU


 No.143894

>>143880

Yeah but it's kind of your fault for being little punk ass souless bitches. If your "culture" is dying out, it's because whatever you had that was lost now obviously wasn't worth saving. On the "we can't do anything to stop the boot of American Imperialism thing!" How is it that a bunch of rice farmers in Vietnam can kick America out, and Latin America mostly to for that matter, vs the industrialized and militarized Europe? No, you bitches are exactly where you want to be. You ain't a victim anymore than a mob wife.


 No.143898

>>143894

Deep. No, for real.


 No.143900

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>>143892

>I've been seeing posts like "Israel dindu nuffin"

I think I know what you're referring to, and if so, that's not an accurate characterization of what I said.


 No.143901

>>143894

>Militarized

>Industrialized

Europe's entire industry was scrapped. Most European militaries are reduced to small professional forces. Western Europe is one of the least militarized areas on the planet besides Switzerland.

Also, there was a war between America and a European power. It was called WW2. American took over Europe by military force.


 No.143902

>>143901

The EU has, in terms of budget, by far the 2nd biggest military in the world behind the burgs, and by active personnel are #1 just ahead of the chinks.


 No.143904

>>143894

Funny that you mention Vietnam kek.

The place have become very capitalistic and american friendly, those rice farmers all drink coca-cola and go to the theaters to watch Tony Stark wreck Thanos.

So even if they've managed to physically remove the eternal amerimutt in the end they still got dominated anyway.


 No.143906

>>143901

>It was called WW2. American took over Europe by military force.

Maybe if Euros didn't blow each other up every other decade you wouldn't be in the situstion you're in.>>143904

> those rice farmers all drink coca-cola and go to the theaters to watch Tony Stark wreck Thanos.

Oh noes branded sugar water and muh moving pictures again. If we're going to play this game why don't i flip it and bitch avout European firearms and Euro luxury brands displacing our traditional American Colt and Levis. Hate the game not the pkayer salty Euros.


 No.143915

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>>143894

This really. Furthermore, the only way to survive in this environment is, rightfully, to much the same way America has: By ruthlessly, shamelessly, chewing up and spitting out others' culture in their faces. In this fashion, others such as Britain, Japan, and Canada have managed to persist and thrive, even infiltrating and subverting American culture.


 No.144100

>>135594

Not OP, but people have told me that contra would cpnvince me, nope, just made me more right wing. Contrapoints; aptly named because he often makes points that aptly contradict reality.


 No.144135

>>135360

>>144100

>>135594

Contrapoints is just a liberal faggot, people recommending it are either /pol/ falseflagging or leggit leddit SJW retards.

Watch professor Wolff instead to get a grasp on why things are the way they are.

https://www.youtube.com/user/democracyatwrk


 No.144137

>>143706

>varying from cartoonish feminazi SJW self-caricature

Not sure how you came to the conclusion that Stieg Larsson is a femnazi. Read the books, they're pretty good.


 No.144139

>>144137

>sweden is secretly controlled by shadowy cells of fundamentalist nazi incest rapist serial killers

>heroine is a strong independent womyn who don't need no man and knows kung fu and a sooper dooper h@x0r who can steal a gazillion krona ez pz

>she grew up in foster care being raped to sleep every night (except when she btfo the last one epic styl) abloo abloo

I mean, the detective story is well written enough, but the author is kegstanding the same Kool-Aid as ROKS, who are fucking insane:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gender_War


 No.144164

>>144139

Grasping for straws here. Saying "abloobloo kungfu ninja h4x0r XD" doesn't prove your point that Stieg is a femnazi.


 No.144605

>>143701

nigga you cant die your shoelaces it's not capitalism


 No.144695

>>143900

Isn't everything just subjective to you guys?


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