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File: ef235be0ba6e744⋯.png (290.01 KB, 600x700, 6:7, e915092a37c1213fb21f597569….png)

 No.132942

ITT: 'liberal pretending to be leftist' dead giveaways

>'oppression' rather than 'exploitation'

>'rich' and 'poor' rather than 'capital' and 'labour'

>putting importance on voting

>'we need a mix of socialism and capitalism'

>using 'democratic socialism' to refer to social democracy

>not seeing immigration in economic terms

>hostility to science and rationality

>never talking about the production process

>vague or non-materialist understanding of 'power'

>believing in abstractions literally; e.g. thinking groups literally do things to other groups

>'Marxist' not interested in economics (except taxation and market regulation)

>'Anarchist' not calling to abolish the state (except border control)

>disdain for (many) workers

Give me your best ones, bois.

 No.132945

>believing in abstractions literally; e.g. thinking groups literally do things to other groups

So the bourgeoisie don't look after their own interests and in the process they don't end up incidentally fucking up the working class?


 No.132947

>>132945

>So the bourgeoisie don't look after their own interests and in the process they don't end up incidentally fucking up the working class?

The groups per se don't. The individuals do, but we express it like this in language. Just like 'Country X legalizes marijuana' means that the government of country X legalized, not the country per se.


 No.132948


 No.132949

>putting importance on voting

Electoral politics can be a legitimate strategy for exposing the system though.


 No.132951

File: 7ebaf16af248606⋯.jpg (54.97 KB, 565x433, 565:433, NoneOfTheAbove.jpg)

>>132949

Only if you do it like Brewster.


 No.132953

>'oppression' rather than 'exploitation'

>'oppression' rather than 'exploitation'

>not seeing immigration in economic terms

>vague or non-materialist understanding of 'power'

These are all vulgarizations, right? Simpler, easier versions of more accurate but slightly unfamiliar concepts.

I want to say you should see these as an opportunity to educate, but I wonder how possible it really is to overcome these sorts of gross simplifications. Almost every progressive vulgarizes feminism, antiracism, etc, too.

I think it might actually be necessary to try to create new gross simplifications that are still basically right but just incomplete, and get people closer to the right idea. The vulgarization of 'the the 1% who own 99% vs the 99% who own 1%' might actually be a good example of that. To create vulgarizations that are still useful and try to push out the harmful ones.

>hostility to science and rationality

These are people who would jump off a bridge if sargon of akkad made a video about why you should not jump off a bridge.

>believing in abstractions literally; e.g. thinking groups literally do things to other groups

These people should be fucking sectioned.


 No.132960

>"Stop Trump!"

>calls everything he doesn't like "fascist"

>eyes glaze whenever someone mentions value

>Black Lives Matter

>keeps Facebook up to date

>opposed to "colonization"

>thinks that guns should be regulated by the police to keep dangerous weapons out of the hands of fascists

>believes in human rights

>wants "justice" for dead people

>"I identify as… "

>against all forms of violence

>does not know what the M-C-M cycle is

>thinks that we must "support" on Facebook puppet states of non-American countries in their fight against American imperialism


 No.132962

File: 90e23e80f44e6c4⋯.png (368.39 KB, 800x800, 1:1, Frogged.png)

>'oppression' rather than 'exploitation'

Exploitation is different than oppression, but the proletariat are oppressed by capitalism, overtly by the state and covertly by artificial scarcity of shelter, food, etc. We have no reason not to acknowledge this in tandem with the exploitation inherent in wage labor.

>'rich' and 'poor' rather than 'capital' and 'labour'

While not perfectly synonymous and it is important to stress we want to abolish social relations as opposed to just distribute wealth evenly, I would be surprised if "capital" did not correlate to "rich" over 90% of the time. Furthermore I'd argue rich proletarians, such as executives and politicians who don't own capital, have interests more aligned with the bourgeoisie than they do with the proletariat, and can be expected to side with reaction.

>using 'democratic socialism' to refer to social democracy

"Democratic Socialism" is completely meaningless and we shouldn't use it at all.

>not seeing immigration in economic terms

Seeing immigration solely in economic terms is liberalism, it treats us only as resources to be used by capital in production.

>hostility to science and rationality

This could mean anything. We should be skeptical against "science" and "rationality" in the sense of not buying into "Ben Shapiro Destroys Leftists With FACTS And LOGIC" shit that gets dressed up as rational or scientific advice to make the proletariat suffer so corps can continue to waste resources.

>disdain for (many) workers

What the fuck does this even mean. If you don't like sports or capeshit films don't be a dick and pretend your enlightened taste makes you superior, but feel free not to enjoy dumb shit.


 No.132963

>>132962

>We should be skeptical against "science" and "rationality" in the sense of not buying into "Ben Shapiro Destroys Leftists With FACTS And LOGIC" shit that gets dressed up as rational or scientific advice to make the proletariat suffer so corps can continue to waste resources.

What hes talking about are radlib tumblr drones who jump straight past the skepticism of ideology being framed as 'rational scientific truth' on to distrust of the concept of scientific rationality, just because certain rightards invoke it as a mask.


 No.132965

All the typical sjw tropes.

>anything and everything is racist

>muh cultural appropriation

>muh nouns

>muh political correctness. If I merely stop saying mean stuff then the stuff itself will magically disappear

Etc…


 No.132996

>>132960

Good ones, although I would amend

>believes in human rights literally

and put it in the abstractions category. I think 'human rights' are a useful framework for thinking about morals, even though rights literally speaking aren't real.


 No.133050

> 'prosperity' rather than 'sustainability'

> 'labour' rather than 'nature'

> 'victimization' rather than 'dealienation'

> 'middle class' rather than 'wage dependents'

> 'parliaments' rahter than 'council democracy'

> 'growth' rather than 'planetary boundaries'

> 'international' or 'transnational' rather than 'cosmopolitical'

> 'taxation' rather than 'dispossession'

> 'development aid through NGOs' rather than 'abolish neocolonialism'

> ignoring antagonisms between urban and rural areas

> 'environmentalists' are hypocrites not interested in common good


 No.133051

>>132942

>ITT: 'liberal pretending to be leftist' dead giveaways

>All races are equal


 No.133052

>>133050

>le democracy meme

Fake anprim detected. Hierarchy is the way of nature. If you don’t want national primitivist anarchism under a system of tribal chieftains you’re doing it wrong


 No.133054

>>133052

>hierarchy

>anarchism

Just come out as an ecofascist already.


 No.133056

>>133052

Green anarchism ≠ anprim. I want libertarian municipalism. Mutual aid is the way of nature. If you don't want democratic confederalism under a system of coordinators with imperative mandates and consensus decision making you're doing it wrong. Also this >>133054


 No.133059

>>133056

I don’t follow Jews like Bookchin who romanticize nature and who do not follow social darwinism. Tribal chieftains in a decentralized Aryan primitive society are the way to go. Everything else is Capitalistd unsustainable Jewish daydreams


 No.133074

>Social Ecologist versus Anprim

Have I been time warped back to 1995 or something


 No.133078

>>133059

go away Ted Kacynzski you're drunk.


 No.133082

>>133078

Ted K isn't a white nationalist


 No.133086

>>133051

>race

>existing

haha good joke anon


 No.133127

>>132960

>thinks that we must "support" on Facebook puppet states of non-American countries in their fight against American imperialism

tankies btfo


 No.133141

>>132942

>any one of these

At this point they're not even pretending to be leftist though. These aren't shitty/fake lefty opinions, they're straight up liberal opinions. Here's some actual liberal pretending to be lefty stuff:

>implying that liberals and left wingers are adjacent in ideology or political praxis

>wanting gun control

>wanting to roll back any of the advancements in civil rights/liberties made under liberalism (e.g. free speech)

>thinks rights are an end in themselves rather than something that should be made unnecessary by abolishing class/hierarchy

>seeing the political opinions of "right wingers" (i.e. conservatives and the far right as opposed to liberals who are also right wing) as insurmountable or impractical obstacles to solidarity, that is, the idealism (dare I say idpol) of thinking that political opinions are more important than class position

>cares about "justice" in the sense of punishment

>their idea of social problems is culture war bullshit like how many black Oscar noms there are

>>132945

The bourgeoisie don't act as a cohesive unit. Some of them coordinate like with the Bilderberg group or Davoss, but how much coordination that involves is pretty little. That one guy talking bout taxes at Davos kind of showed how little class consciousness some billionaires have. They know they have common interests but most of them have too shitty a conception of economics to know what is really in their collective interests. They are in effect just the people who won at capitalism - they are greedy fucks who succeeded at maximizing their income. By the nature of capitalism, any of them who would be actually looking out for long-term billionaire interests would be scrambling to apply band-aids like social democracy, but that would push them out of being at the apex of capitalism because it counteracts the greedy acquisitive behavior. So that means the people who end up with the most wealth/power are exactly the people who are as greedy as possible and as small-minded as possible, unable to see past boosting their net worth higher. This concentration of stupidity is the capitalists' greatest weakness precisely because it frustrates their ability to organize and act as a cohesive unit.

More generally, >>132947 is correct. Individuals in a group may organize together, e.g. the NAACP, but that is not the same thing as the group itself being a subject.

>>132953

>These are all vulgarizations, right?

>I want to say you should see these as an opportunity to educate,

Each of those is so far removed from the original concept that it's hard to see how they could serve as a bridge to the socialist equivalents. Oppression for instance is mostly about overt power making life more difficult (e.g. cops harassing black people), while exploitation is a specific and comparatively technical concept that describes a subtle, hidden violence embedded in the structure of the production process. It's not just more complex, but based on a completely different way of thinking about the situation.

>The vulgarization of 'the the 1% who own 99% vs the 99% who own 1%' might actually be a good example of that.

Probably the closest existing one, yeah. Also it's less a vulgarization and more a generalization. Classical antiquity wasn't capitalist but you still had a tiny minority owning everything. Same principle. It's a succint way to talk about class and you can segue into the actual mechanics of class in capitalism.

>>132960

Pretty good.

>>132962

We should be critical of science as an institution that exists within capitalism and is subject to its material influence. We shouldn't be critical of science as spooky magick invented by white devil westerners to oppress totally not ahistorical wicca and the traditional juju of indigenous peoples.


 No.133203

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>>133059

this even though I'm closer to Nazbol

Nazbol-Anprim alliance when?


 No.133210

>>133059

>social darwinism

darwin did not support the idea of artificial selection. if he was still alive, the farthest he'd go would be abortion for tard babies and sterilization, but not killing.


 No.133215

>>133210

I'd go for the opposite for a dysgenic society.

NTs need roped and gassed.


 No.133216

Cavemen never aborted tards and neither should anyone else.


 No.133217

> We shouldn't be critical of science as spooky magick invented by white devil westerners to oppress totally not ahistorical wicca and the traditional juju of indigenous peoples.

I am.


 No.133221

>>133141

>We shouldn't be critical of science as spooky magick invented by white devil westerners to oppress totally not ahistorical wicca and the traditional juju of indigenous peoples.

Outside of occult circles I haven't heard this.


 No.133227

>>133141

>seeing the political opinions of "right wingers" (i.e. conservatives and the far right as opposed to liberals who are also right wing) as insurmountable or impractical obstacles to solidarity, that is, the idealism (dare I say idpol) of thinking that political opinions are more important than class position

Fucking this.


 No.133228

>>132942

You'll never see the rightists accusing their own moderates. Stop your gatekeeping, do not divide the left, use the moderate supporters to add to our power, take them to speechs and educate them.

Also, stop being a faggot, voting IS important.


 No.133232

>>133210

Yes, but Darwin didn’t coin the term social-Darwinism.

>the farthest he'd go would be abortion for tard babies and sterilization, but not killing.

Abortion for tard babies IS killing, but that doesn’t make it bad. Sterilization and euthanasia of severe tards, the deformed and many others along that line is not just good the cultivation of the a better stock but it is also humane


 No.133243

>>133228

>You'll never see the rightists accusing their own moderates

<alt-lite

<cuckservative

<RINO

<neocon

<etc

>gatekeeping

This isn't so much gatekeeping, as partitioning. When these people just describe themselves as "left of center", sure, even if they hold literally zero positions that aren't Dubya-era GOP-isms with a lick of "woke" IdPol paint , we can at least try to lure them leftward since they already think of themselves as being on "our side". On the other hand, if they actually describe themselves as "socialist", "communist", "anarchist", etc., then we also need to immediately denounce them and disabuse them of this delusion, lest they besmirch our good name even more than the tankies have.

>Also, stop being a faggot, voting IS important.

Agreed, at least that it CAN be important. Even in the worst case, it's not mutually exclusive with any other type of praxis.


 No.133244

>>133243

>ancom

I wasn’t aware that this was a liberal board


 No.133252

>>133251

>only muh dead people from over a century ago who I worship as gods are g-good!

Fuck off tankie idpoler. These are the leftist warriors of our generation


 No.133253

>>133244

A glorified socdem calling anyone a liberal is rich.


 No.133255

>>133253

Fuck off Capitalist, you’re obviously not a leftist and are instead some purity-spiraling jew


 No.133256

File: a31f560a72dc6e6⋯.jpeg (398.75 KB, 1680x1050, 8:5, 3FD8E76E-64F1-4F92-9297-8….jpeg)

>Is a hardcore ‘member’ of AntiFa and tries to kick everyone who isn’t their view out of their group

>Is unwilling to be friends with anyone right of center

>Against free speech

>Incapable of dialogue

>All of their friends are also like them in their views

>HBomberguy fan

>Unironically likes AOC, Trudeau, Bernie, or Corbyn

>Raised by an upper class family that votes Democrats, Liberal, Labour, or SPD

>Anything I don’t like is Fascism

>uses exclusively Leftist terms like “solidarity” and “comrade” in place of “friend” and “I support you”in daily speech

>Has no idea what philosophy is


 No.133257

>>133256

>reposting this shitty post AGAIN

FUCK OFF BACK TO /LEFTYPOL/


 No.133258

>>133257

What are you going on about?


 No.133259

>>133258

What that anon is trying to say is that your posts are destroying the quality of this board and reek of defeatism and fascism. Ergo, kindly head back to /leftypol/


 No.133261

>>133259

> kindly head back to /leftypol/

You first my dude.


 No.133262

>>133261

You’re obviously not in tune with board culture, Jew


 No.133283

>>133256

>free speech

Speaking of liberal tells.


 No.133304

Some more examples:

>Recoils in horror/confusion when they hear "ACAB" or police abolitionism

>Thinks that it's essential to tolerate/accept everyone and to do that you must understand "their struggle"

>Thinks security theater like the TSA is actually about security

>Thinks the current state of the alt right is a "return" of something that's been "gone" and not merely a rising to the surface of what has always been there

>complains about the stars and bars but doesn't bat an eye at the star spangled banner

>sides with a corporation against its workers in any situation whatsoever, e.g. firing someone for being "problematic"

>>133221

The wicca jab was at occultists and the like. The other part is about decolonialism, which has some people saying that former colonies should reject everything that comes from Europe, including science. Here's an example of this retardation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9SiRNibD14


 No.133311

File: 8824ce28e80f8d6⋯.gif (2.5 MB, 540x304, 135:76, Overlord.gif)

>being a humanist

>not realizing that caring about anything is gay

>thinks revolution is still possible

>MUH INCELS

>thinks misanthropy is reactionary

>supports moderators

>dismisses all age of consent criticism offhandedly

>wants to ban shota/lolicon


 No.133316

File: 8914328d0c8c9f2⋯.png (34.68 KB, 625x626, 625:626, 1390947432681.png)


 No.133327

>>133059

>Tribal chieftains in a decentralized Aryan primitive society are the way to go

What place, and period in history, are you taking for your model of Aryan "primitive"?

Or are you just going to hit the road in your VW camper van with a paperback on Charlie Manson and a bong? (Aryan brotherhood maaaaan.)

>Everything else is Capitalistd unsustainable Jewish daydreams

The Hebrews in the Iron Age were a tribal people themselves. (The preceding Bronze Age culture of the Sumerians, who weren't a Semitic people, was the one of massive ziggurats and cities built of clay.)


 No.133441

>>133256

Absolutely based.

I'd say

>doing the performative raised fist

would fit in there quite nicely


 No.133535

>supporting the EU

>having respect for religions

>supporting mass immigration

>thinking that criticizing the spooks of minoriries is racism/imperialism/colonialism

>using leftist terms in a vague, economically illiterate way (no gay marriage = capitalism, gay marriage = socialism)


 No.133544

>>132942

>Dude read some Focult


 No.133581

>>133544

Actually good advice


 No.133635

>>133581

Focult has more in common with Evola than Marx.


 No.133638

>>133581

If you are Nigger, sure.


 No.133674

File: 2885848de57a2c2⋯.png (168.48 KB, 500x285, 100:57, fellow kids.png)

Wow thanks so much for compiling this list of tells and helping us play the part more convincingly!


 No.133714

>>133635

Evola is better than Capitalist Marx anyway


 No.133716

/pol/ officially endorses foucault


 No.133728

>>133716

I am sure that the ancaps do at least, because little boys.


 No.133790

File: be4a6136e6cb235⋯.jpg (143.47 KB, 1007x394, 1007:394, TheHistoryOfSexuality-Mich….jpg)


 No.133792

>>133716

Both Postmodernism and Premodernism reject reason and the Dialectical notion of progress.


 No.133836

>>132942

voting is important you dumb fuck, and its hard not to pretend not to be a hardcore socialist in a world post-cold war and where 10 deputies is a huge success for every self labeled communist party in every single country which is not a one party state capitalist tyrrany. What the hell do you expect, to radical left politics to get ultra-relevant with a snap of a finger? those soccdem even if they are too god damn light have the political power to change the working class for the better, especially in america where workers conditions could be greatly improve by someone like Bernie


 No.133837

>>133716

where the fucking hell did you get that from you illitirate ignorant dunning-kruger monkey


 No.133839

>>133837

Go read your beloved PoMos you defensive baby


 No.133845

File: 050346e0040bf1b⋯.gif (44.94 KB, 700x655, 140:131, reformism.gif)


 No.133850

>>133845

Nice, I liked that one


 No.133918

>EvERyOnE'S lIbERaL BUt mE: the thrread


 No.133919

>>133918

t. liberal


 No.133922

>>133918

That alternating case meme is fucking repugnant.


 No.133923

>>133922

tRiGgErEd mUcH SnOwFlAkE?


 No.133925

>>133923

Return to twitter


 No.133948

>>133918

>EvERyOnE'S lIbERaL*

FTFY


 No.134120

>>133845

fukken saved


 No.134186

"workspace blindspot"

>The “workplace blindspot” is common among wealthy liberals. I can’t tell you how many friends I’ve talked to who have worked at “progressive” nonprofits that mistreated and exploited their employees. The boss at a women’s rights nonprofit does not notice that they are cruelly bullying women every day, or the head of a pro-labor organization demands absurd hours from their workers. This is why “workplace democracy” is such an important left demand. It’s a call to take the values of equality seriously, to actually implement them in every sphere of life.

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2019/03/the-southern-poverty-law-center-is-everything-thats-wrong-with-liberalism?fbclid=IwAR3udt52UQQiYLBrjuMVttlPhvknqhaRrJeAvVCo_UtXrw1Ywwd9Vf-Buv4


 No.134370

>>134186

>it's a "/leftpol/ discovers telescopic philanthropy" episode


 No.135658

>>133311

>>thinks revolution is still possible

So how are you going to achieve the promised land?


 No.135672

File: f2331f7b4f3cb7d⋯.jpg (42.59 KB, 622x319, 622:319, Anime Land.jpg)

>>135658

We wont


 No.135781

>>135672

the why even bother?


 No.135811

>>135658

The promised land isn't a place. It's a direction. You don't strive for the horizon to actually get there, but for what you will find on the way.


 No.135877

Social democrats and liberals got done much more for the workers than commielarpers who time and time again prove to be even worse than fascists and rightwing idiots. Look at every country that ever implemented communism and how the working class got demolished by the government parties. Actual communism without a state regulating won't happen anymore considering how many modern processes in regards to services and production are dependent on state intervention.

>>132960

Groups like black lives matter are needed to voice their opinion in a climate of oppression against them. Trump isn't a fascist, just a conman yelling loudly about issues such as migration and doing nothing to fix them. Gun regulation is absolutely needed for America it's insane how much murders and killing take place due to ease of access. I'm more concerned with the local lunatic shooting up 50 people than I'm with 'fascist' using them.

Human rights have done more to ensure standards for workers than any communist system implemented ever has done. In the contrary, communist states such as China ignoring human rights has lead to disastrous working conditions.

>>133059

go back to pol nazi


 No.135878

>>135877

> Gun regulation is absolutely needed for America it's insane how much murders and killing take place due to ease of access. I'm more concerned with the local lunatic shooting up 50 people than I'm with 'fascist' using them.

You do realize that the Gun Control laws have been used to prevented various Black communities needing to get the weapons to defend themselves with. How there is a racist underpinning to the concept of gun control?

Guns are the very thing the working class needs in order to defend their communities from aggression by the state.


 No.135882

>>135877

Agreed that reformism has its merits, and armchairs/turd-worldists denying its success are tippy-top LARP, but your description of MLs as "communist" is unnecessary, and…

>Groups like black lives matter are needed to voice their opinion in a climate of oppression against them

BLM, except for approximately the first femtosecond of its existence, is mindnumbing SJW cancer eating away at racial and class politics in this country. Up until BLM, I always upheld black activism as the 1960s IdPol activists that got an "A grade" on the test feminists flunked in the 1970s, having successfully rebuked black IdPol like Farrakhan, in favor of pivoting from victories in abolishing explicitly racist laws to still-relevant fights against poverty and ghettoization. BLM got that all wrong, by taking what should've been the nucleus of an all-inclusive movement against police misconduct and the prison-industrial-complex, and turning them into progressive stack oppression olympiads. Beyond the internal politics of BLM itself, there's BLM as an external-facing political campaign, which threw away countless open-and-shut cases of highly sympathetic people being blatantly murdered by the police to focus on divisive cases varying from dubious to clearly justified, and wasted political capital backing pointless riots that destroyed black/poor communities instead of taking the fight where it would've mattered (let alone attempting to create a legitimate political bloc via direct dual power mutual aid and/or electoral politics).

>Gun regulation is absolutely needed for America

There is zero correlation between gun control and violent crime internationally nor historically, whereas crime in the US compared to other places and times is highly correlated to wealth, equality, and social service shortfalls. Speaking of social services, if you're talking about spergouts (serial killers, spree killers, terrorists, etc.), better mental health services would do FAR more to prevent them. This doesn't even touch on the fact that most gun legislation is technologically ignorant about guns to the extent it has little or no impact on the capabilities of legal OR illegal weapons IRL.


 No.135906

all of these language games…

Change your language based on your audience, don't try to attach yourself to a specific dictionary.


 No.135907

Karl Marx was the prophet.


 No.135926

File: 76ed4223bc75c59⋯.png (206.72 KB, 580x499, 580:499, Anti-communistCentipede.png)

>>135877

>Look at every country that ever implemented communism and how the working class got demolished by the government parties.

Kek. Where did you get this hilarious bullshit?


 No.135936

>>135926

He probably thinks the USSR, DPRK, China and Cuba were real socialism.


 No.135950

>>132942

>ITT: Turgid marxist dead giveaways


 No.136044

I honestly used to enjoy leftpol and leftypol to a much lesser extent. But honestly this entire website is pretty fucking cancerous and uesless. Pol still remains the highest tier of butthole cancer but still remains just one thread in a pit full of self-righteous fucks that live to shit on other people’s opinions. I got jumped on in another thread for saying bernie is the next most viable option for america and most likely and able to further us along marx’s stages of development. All i got were generic ass replies like huff puff he’s just a filthy liberal and the only vote worth voting is the guillotine and I should vote Trump because that would accelerate the downfall of American society. Thank fucking god most of you remain in your armchair. Yes, spend more time critiquing blm on your principled ass ideas, edgelord. I’m sure you like myself did the math and came to the conclusion that non-hispanic whites are about 3 times more likely than a white person to be murdered by police. But who the fuck cares. This thread is trash tier for self jerking purposes. I hate you all.


 No.136045

>>136044

Non-hispanic Blacks* (was obvious mistype) but i’m sure someone will be here shortly to call me a jew anyway. “Just call him a jew 4head, it instanlty increases your credibility 4heD”


 No.137035

>believing in abstractions literally; e.g. thinking groups literally do things to other groups

That's the prime giveaway of political illiteracy of our times, not only of liberalism.


 No.137063

>>135877

>go back to pol nazi

Oy gevalt


 No.138810

HAPAS ARE SUPERIOR TO WHITES


 No.138964

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