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File: d50a3d6a65dba60⋯.jpg (590 KB, 2849x4096, 2849:4096, 813246a8acaf8a0c406e793c89….jpg)

 No.130241

Why do people cling so hard to the spook of the family? It's nothing more than the smallest unit of crime, originally formed to deprive others from the fruits of Earth, a birthright of every human, today it is still the scene of most abuse, bullying, exploitation and trauma. There's no reason why would we want to live in families instead of a more humane, communal form. In fact, it is not only obsolete, but outright harmful.

 No.130248

Kill all families


 No.130253

>instead of a more humane, communal form

People don't like to raise other people's offspring, men in particular detest when they marry a single mom and have to raise another man's kids.

With very few exceptions the majority of people would rather adopt a puppy or a kitten than to give a home to a foster child.

A blood bond is vital in order for kids to receive the maximum affection and support they need.


 No.130254

>>130253

>this is what they told me in church so it must be true

Too bad lived experience says otherwise.


 No.130260

It's funny how liberals and reactionaries admire Plato and his Republic even though he advocated for children being raised communally and without segregation of sex.

Are there any interesting Marxist arguments against the family?


 No.130262


 No.130265

>>130241

>middle school football loli

gibs


 No.130267

>>130265

You mean soccer.

Soccer.

サッカー


 No.130268


 No.130269

>>130254

>church

>stating facts

Bitch, please.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/21838575/ns/health-childrens_health/t/children-higher-risk-nontraditional-homes/

>They note an ever-increasing share of America's children grow up in homes without both biological parents, and say the risk of child abuse is markedly higher in the nontraditional family structures


 No.130274

>>130269

> Dysfunctional families are worse than functional families.

What's your point?


 No.130275

>>130274

That nontraditional family structures tend to be dysfunctional.


 No.130279

>>130275

This thread is against family structures, not for "non-traditional" family structures.


 No.130288

>>130279

Not having a family structure would create a dysfunctional environment harmful to children.


 No.130292

>>130267

Go away american


 No.130293


 No.130338

>>130292

>only burgers call it soccer

Wong, and if you argue further I'll post a pic of a petanko sitting on someone's face


 No.130339

>family is a SPOOK lol

Further evidence that stirnertards grew up in abusive homes and project all their hatred for their situation onto everyone else


 No.130351

>>130253

>People don't like to raise other people's offspring

Big unqualified statements about a fixed and immutable human nature are my fetish, make more of them, please.

>>130260

How many liberals (or people, for that matter) do you really think have read Plato's Republic? From what I recall the dissolution of the family and the state censorship are the two aspects of the Republic that get the most flack.

>>130269

Literally the second paragraph

>In each case, as in many others every year, the alleged or convicted perpetrator had been the boyfriend of the child's mother — men thrust into father-like roles which they tragically failed to embrace

These aren't children being communally raised, these are children being raised by single mothers and their boyfriends. They're just shitty imitations of families that of course are gonna be worse than a more stable family. But the point is to get away from the family structure altogether.

>>130339

In defense: there is nothing valuable or sacred about family in itself. Of course families are real, but familial love is just another idea. "Love your family" is just another commandment that only has value insofar as it has practicality. There's nothing absolute about it.


 No.130355

File: 1591a5dd9c967d5⋯.jpg (178.77 KB, 1024x743, 1024:743, new-country-1024x743.jpg)

>>130241

Because social imprinting effects caused by instinctual adaptations that assume family-centric childrearing would make it extremely difficult for stable and healthy communities to persist in the presence of horny teenagers:

https://www.damninteresting.com/too-close-for-comfort/


 No.130356

My partner and I have a child, what is to be done with it?


 No.130359

>>130355

>muh incest

spooky


 No.130370

File: 01906706d0e243a⋯.png (167.79 KB, 1008x1014, 168:169, trough.png)

>>130365

Read the article. It points out two problems stemming from the same cause. First, the Westermarck Effect causes blood unrelated children raised as quasi-siblings to feel sexually repelled from each other on reaching pubescence, which in the case of non-familial utopian communists such as Kibbutzim, caused them to flee the community in search of sex. Second, Genetic Sexual Attraction causes blood relative strangers to subconsciously seek each other out in dynamic cosmopolitan societies, creating either dejection or incest.

These two effects together, among others, act as an engine to demolish such non-familial projects among humans.


 No.130381

>today it is still the scene of most abuse, bullying, exploitation and trauma.

Sorry anon, but most people had happy home lives.


 No.130382

>Anarchist projection his emotional baggage on everyone else episode 23,407,789,324,606.


 No.130383

>>130241

Yeah communal raising of children works. In the same way that free sex does, it works, but should you do it?

Now I grew up in in an abusive family too but that doesn't mean I don't want to have kids of my own to raise out of fear I'll end up doing the same. First off most conditions that lead to an abusive childhood are from capitalism. 2nd the one's that aren't wouldn't be able to be helped anyway. A commune may not be able to calculate what a nutrition for a male child should be as opposed to a female child, and if you fail to convince all the members, then you get a whole generation of twinks. There's also nothing stopping a commune from deciding spanking is an acceptable form of punishment, or a child feeling that they are his parents and when he see's his two dad's arguing for him to feel uncomfortable. I'd argue being raised in a commune would only really lead someone to look different and maybe act more isolated.

>>130370

There's such a thing as dividing communities you see, they can always just divide them between the guys and gals.


 No.130390

>>130381

The two propositions aren't mutually exclusive though.


 No.130399

>>130351

I don't even know if you guys are baiting or if you really are this fucking stupid.

The article shows how men don't like to raise another man's sperm, it isn't that they are dysfunctional because they are a family or trying to emulate a family it's that they are dysfunctional because human nature and it is correct to assume that it would be even worse in a commune since the men wouldn't few any obligation to the children at all.


 No.130400

>>130267

Fucking burgers lol, they can't even play it and pretend to name it.


 No.130403


 No.130405

>>130399

>wouldn't feel

>fix'd


 No.130406

>>130241

Your mom must be proud of you, kid.


 No.130410

>In fact, it is not only obsolete, but outright harmful.

Everything is obsolete and harmful in the land of transient trailer park codeine communes, everything except that notion that its people havent driven themselves deep enough into the void.


 No.130419

>>130399

BUT WHAT ABOUT MUH HOOMAN NATURE???


 No.130420

>>130370

Neither of those would be a problem in a free society.


 No.130433

>>130419

Yes, human nature is actually a thing.

Only a fool would think that billions of years of evolutionary development wouldn't have an influence in behavior.


 No.130450

>>130433

Curious how men spent billions of years evolving to only raise up "their own sperm" yet until very recently humans lived in matriarchies precisely because everyone fucked everyone else and the mother was the only biological parent that could be actually identified. Don't talk about evolution if everything you know about from the history of families is from church.


 No.130454

>>130450

>until very recently humans lived in matriarchies precisely because everyone fucked everyone else

Yeah, nah, that's not how it used to be. Maybe in some few isolated native tribes in america and other far away places but for the majority of humanity that's not how the society was arranged.

Don't talk about evolution if everything you know about from the history of families comes from tumblr university.


 No.130456

>>130450

>until very recently humans lived in matriarchies precisely because everyone fucked everyone else and the mother was the only biological parent that could be actually identified

But then Yakub created white people…


 No.130457

>>130454

>>130450

Different groups of people often had quite different social structures if we take modern(Read: post-neolithic) hunter-gathers to be representative.

Hunter-gatherers provide more support for the argument that human culture depends more on mutable, learned factors than on human nature.

Thats not to argue that human nature does not exist, but that its a smaller contribution to behavior than learned culture.


 No.130458

>>130400

>muh burgers are ignorant, it's not like I could possibly be…


 No.130464

The delusion that people are entitled to have as many kids as they want and to also raise them is one of the most dangerous and persisting delusions in our society. Similarly, the delusion that every fetus has a right to life and that every embryo is perfect in and of itself is pushing immense amounts of preventable suffering on the world.

Picking designated breeders to produce a generation's offspring and then picking designated child-rearers to oversee their growth and development would be a great way to abolish classism and banish the spook of tradition from our world. Then we could raise the next generation of children to not obsess about becoming fathers or mothers or raising their own little clans of mini me's. If you look at the fundamentalist Christian cults and the Mormons it is entirely a death cult based around paternity/maternity. People think they can cheat death and stave off breakoffs by creating a bunch of tiny semi-clones that they can brainwash.

Too bad that stupid anarkiddies, let alone liberals, can't see this.


 No.130466

>>130450

Curious that the penis head has the shape it has to scoop out other men's sperm


 No.130478

File: 4c1fb1404c461ce⋯.png (989.5 KB, 960x720, 4:3, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 0e4ac2d36d2a0c0⋯.png (323.23 KB, 678x640, 339:320, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 42ed12eb1bf986c⋯.png (1001.3 KB, 960x720, 4:3, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 416a523d21a237d⋯.png (1.02 MB, 960x720, 4:3, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 3d44007b13ba8ee⋯.png (604.46 KB, 768x576, 4:3, ClipboardImage.png)

Natalism is a far-right ideology and it makes sense why when you think about it


 No.130479

File: 636ebc8f5511b41⋯.jpg (109.4 KB, 1000x605, 200:121, ne4NCaj.jpg)

>>130366

By this he means send the kid innawoods and play hide the sausage with a semiautomatic


 No.130480

>>130478

I guess a lot of Eastern Bloc countries it wasn't real communism because they had birth programs. Might as well throw Gaddafi under a bus too


 No.130481

>>130466

Dubs of Bataille weirdness


 No.130483

>>130464

>tl;Dr post of sjw nonsense. You need to leave.


 No.130487

>>130410

>transient trailer park codeine communes

its funny and sad when champagne socialists project their hatred across country lines and into America's backyard. you're not helping.


 No.130488

>>130262

I ghostread that thing and it looks like modern cuntzi bullshit.


 No.130518

>>130241

>promote destruction of the family unit

>everything I don't like is a spook

Don't you realize that the family unit, to an extent, is basically a small commune?

In China, families huddle together in farming communes. Some have been doing this sense ancient times.


 No.130519

>>130356

>partner

Go to Laogai.


 No.130527

File: 652a3aebfa5e994⋯.png (880.36 KB, 3840x2160, 16:9, whowouldwinfreelove.png)

>>130262

Read history.


 No.130529

>>130399

>The article shows how men don't like to raise another man's sperm

No, it does not show that. It does not even come close to making a sweeping statement about what men like and don't like, nor does it assert that the observed behavior has always been so and always will be so. You are reading your personal beliefs into it.

>because human nature

If you can show me your evidence for this immutable and unchangeable human nature I'll buy it. Until then just spouting more metaphysical quackery that only reveals your worldview.


 No.130538

File: 3cf63387ffcd0b5⋯.jpg (92.75 KB, 400x399, 400:399, frodo.jpg)

>>130478

Why don't anti-natalists just kill themselves and spare the rest of us their nihilistic whining?


 No.130541

>>130538

Anti-natalists claim that it is better not to be born, not that it is cool to kill yourself once you have been already born. If you can't tell the difference between the two positions it is you who needs to kill themselves.


 No.130542

File: 2464ace4b54453d⋯.jpg (514.93 KB, 1920x1200, 8:5, 1478370213519.jpg)

>>130529

>If you can show me your evidence for this immutable and unchangeable human nature I'll buy it.

This is just dumbass feminist roastie talk. Raising a child and entering parenthood is the biggest decision anyone will make in their lives. Since your a feminist you see men and their labor as being at your disposable, so it doesn't occur to you how gross the idea that anyone should be okay with some else determining the time and circumstances of the most expensive and life changing endeavor they'll ever under take.

Men aren't going to want to raise other people's children for this very reason. And yes having your body validated by having off spring is another. It's hilarious how feminists will go around accusing men that want their own children of being misogynistic when what they are advocating will lead to a human genetic monoculture, except most women's genes will be passed on while most men's won't. We have a wide variety of genes for a reason, it's built in robustness to overcome unforeseen environmental changes in the future. Having everyone have children that mirror what was fashionably attractive at the time is beyond stupid.


 No.130543


 No.130576

>>130400

>>130458

>If Japaneses call it soccer because of american imperialism that's the true name.

Burger genocide when?


 No.130578

>>130576

>because of american imperialism

Let's be honest. If anyone deserved to get imperialized by the Americans, they were the Japanese.


 No.130582

>>130580

<what are pedophiles?

Another good reason to not raise children communally as having more males looking for the kids also increases the chances that one or more of them will be a pedo putting all the children in the commune at risk.


 No.130590

>>130576

Kill all Americans for the left is just kill all jews dog whistle for the right.


 No.130591

>>130582

Someone is spooked by age of consent. Besides the only ones I despise are fag pedos. At least young supple women can make mothers.


 No.130593

>>130527

Feminists deserve to for in their cat poop infested hell for all eternity.

Besides even Roo is spooked by essentialism.


 No.130602


 No.130633

>>130241

Cause I want to raise my children, and not someone else’s children. I don’t want someone else raising my children.

>>130464

>>130478

Fuck you, I want to have Kids and you can’t stop me. Their’s nothing wrong with people having kids. The Reproduction of society is an inherently good thing.


 No.130634

>>130633

You can't own people you fascist piece of shit


 No.130635

>>130634

>Having a family is fascist

wtf is wrong with anarkiddies and why do they project their hatred of family onto everyone else?


 No.130637

>>130635

What's up with normies thinking somebody belongs to them just because they pushed it out of their wombs?


 No.130656

>>130637

What's up with normalfags telling me the community owns me because they're older. Fuck off fascist old man I can do whatever I want from birth and you can't tell me I can't.


 No.130662

>>130399

>>130542

This is really embarrassing even for /left

Are you completely unaware that anxieties about being the "raising" "fathering" or "paying for" non-genetic offspring are entirely and fully constructed from private ownership of the means of production?

In a communist society where work is structured from each according to their ability to each according to their need there would be no additional labor cost on the individual father for taking care of a child genetically theirs or otherwise because the resources would be distributed to the child according to his need as it is for all citizens.

The whole point of imagining a communal family society is that the freedom not to work for an employer according to his direction for profit would allow for the abundance of resources and free time that children would be provided for regardless of their familial connections and could be voluntarily raised by those who enjoy it and spend their days being taught the world by people whose interest it is to do so as freely chosen by each child.


 No.130665

>>130662

>Dude under communism being a CUCK won't be financially damaging anymore so it's ok XDDDDD

Fuck off retard some of us like a little loyalty in our marriages.


 No.130673

>>130665

I don't understand?

How does your child being able to freely associate with teachers and being fed, clothes and sheltered by the community make your wife fuck other people while you watch?

If you find another consenting adult who wants to remain in a monogamous christian marriage and have kids under a communist social living whats stopping you?

Or are you saying that you are such an unappealing partner that the social structure that enforces monogomy is your only hope of keeping anyone around? or you don't want your children to freely associate with others in the community because you want them to learn only what you teach them? because those are problems that you have to work out with yourself. You cant just control other people.


 No.130677

>>130673

You said:

>anxieties about being the "raising" "fathering" or "paying for" non-genetic offspring

fuck off it's not my responsibility to help kids from a cheating partner. Advocating for the state to just blindly turn an eye to casual hookups and pay millions of tax dollars to take care of them because so many abandoned kids will come about is enforcing moral d.egeneracy and I have zero tolerance for that whether under capitalism or socialism or communism.


 No.130681

File: 4f88b7039623549⋯.pdf (723.55 KB, Origin of the Family.pdf)

File: 22eb206e52da91a⋯.jpg (183.23 KB, 963x682, 963:682, stfuliberalstalin.jpg)

>>130677

>my responsibility

>kids from a cheating partner

what the fuck? If you have a consenting monogamous partner why would they cheat on you? you think so little of your hypothetical partner that they would lie to you? or that they would be persuaded by policy or peer pressure?

>enforcing moral d.egeneracy

freedom from is not enforcement of

>the state

>millions of tax dollars

>under capitalism or socialism or communism

do you even know what those words mean

Is it your responsibility under communism to contribute to society according to your ability? Because then your "paying" for kids(and adults!) that aren't yours or your partners? Kids and adults you might never meet.

>so many abandoned kids will come about is enforcing moral d.egeneracy

hooboy

READ

ENGELS


 No.130683

One day Jesus will come down on earth and demand that we will kill our parents. We must all trust or we will remain mortal and weak.


 No.130686

>>130662

>and could be voluntarily raised by those who enjoy it and spend their days being taught the world by people whose interest it is to do so

LMAO.

I really love this utopic idea about socialism/communism that somehow there will always be people interested in a particular job and they will be competent in doing it.

What if nobody in the commune is interested in teaching children or if the only people whose interest is to do so are actually loons who believe in flat earth level dumbassery and they teach only a bunch of crazy bullshit to the kids?

Oh, I know, just offer some incentives so people take the job, well then you would have a problem where people would start only doing anything if you offer some more and more and sooner than later the whole system would collapse and revert back to capitalism LMAO.

>>130681

That book is retarded. Engels simply concluded that because some dumb injuns lived in a communal matriarchy then everybody else would be able to live like them even tho other peoples are not dumb injuns.


 No.130689

>>130635

The nuclear family and the concept of parents owning their children like property is unironically fascistic


 No.130701

>>130697

>it's OK if nobody do the vital jobs, society will continue functioning just fine


 No.130741

>>130686

nice racism bro


 No.130788

>>130689

No one owns their children. It’s just that they are responsible for their children two different concepts.


 No.130790

These people actually think familial bonds are spooks. Men are not happy out of family. They are destructive. Look around around you, self harm or harm to society, that's what you get. Don't give me the 'my sister raised a bastard and that means we all should' nonsense. We are talking millions of people not your gay aunt Sally's kid winning the piano competition.


 No.130791

Also sexuality is going to fly towards child fucking in these environments.


 No.130792

>>130351

>These aren't children being communally raised, these are children being raised by single mothers and their boyfriends. They're just shitty imitations of families that of course are gonna be worse than a more stable family. But the point is to get away from the family structure altogether.

It would be worse in communally raised situations, more access to children, like the Church, like grooming gangs. Men without stable relationships and sexual frustrations with no father figure to obsess over their kid not getting fucked, is utter retardation. Not to mention females fucking kids already like it's going out of style. It would be an absolute shit show.


 No.130793

>>130791

>Implying capitalism doesn't already.


 No.130796

>>130793

Unless woman are going to start fucking ugly men in socialist states, then these kids are going to be used as fleshlights without fathers on the prowl.


 No.130797

>>130796

>Unless woman are going to start fucking ugly men in communist states (Ftfy)

I mean presumably not, only under anarchism is such a thing viable, but what makes you think pedophilia will increase?


 No.130824

File: dc26e45071ac077⋯.jpg (25.34 KB, 624x620, 156:155, s-l1000.jpg)

>>130790

>unmarried men are like violent lone wolfs or solo chimpanzees

>its not the scarcity of resources in the environment that causes aggression but magic feelings of essential essence

>not spooked


 No.130832

>>130788

Talk to parents about that. They seem to believe that their kids are little else than pets.


 No.130836

>>130832

ok experienced parent.


 No.130853

>>130824

Scarcity does not cause crime or violence. Poor people have existed for the longest time. Scarcity relative to your neighbour does. And that means men with no access to maturation causing problems which is something seen in everywhere. I said Family by the way, you said marriage,


 No.130859

>>130797

>what makes you think pedophilia will increase?

Well, there is the plain fact that baby fuck is awww-rightttt.


 No.130861

File: a0e99e8db8d7b71⋯.jpg (46.78 KB, 625x500, 5:4, enhanced-9296-1453399083-1….jpg)

>>130853

>Scarcity does not cause crime or violence. Poor people have existed for the longest time. Scarcity relative to your neighbour does.

>muh genie coefficients

okay Jordan


 No.130873

>>130853

>scarcity does not cause crime or violence

read basic economics nigga


 No.130923

File: 3ea0fa5c8488f82⋯.png (86.23 KB, 736x416, 23:13, BasicVsAdvanced.png)

>>130873

Read advanced economics.


 No.130932

>>130741

irrelevant. you must be new here


 No.130933

>>130665

I agree with ChristComms even though I'm closer to Nazbol.

>>130673

women are naturally hypergamous. so its necessary for the state to supress that by dissolution of currency.


 No.130934

>>130662

this has nothing to do with private enterprise. people are not businesses, this is life we're dealing with here. biological living things are not companies.


 No.130962

>>130853

>Poor people have existed for the longest time.

As long as there was private property to create an environment where 'scarcity relative to your neighbour' is possible, there have been thieves and criminals.

Can't 'steal' anything when no one 'owns' anything. Using someone else's possessions used to be called 'sharing'.


 No.130989

>>130590

Hi Adolf, Burgers are rootless cosmopolitans exactly like Kurds, K!k€$ and Gypsies. There's no place for them in the Angkar, you shall perish in the Revolutionary Holocaust.


 No.130992

>>130683

This. True christians hate their parents and never they would think to become one.


 No.130993

File: 4c667f1bd55e33b⋯.jpg (18.54 KB, 350x350, 1:1, R3FjqckZ_400x400.jpg)

>>130989

That's nice we're all gonna die anyways. The world will not a bang, but a whimper. Which is fine by me. Death to existence.


 No.130994

And you're thinking about white liberals anyways, the heartland has nothing to do with that but enjoy being a delusional faggot.


 No.131000

>>130994

The why aren't you living in Ireland? Who's the delusional faggot?


 No.131041

File: a5eeac6132d96ca⋯.jpg (59.8 KB, 800x679, 800:679, qmm.jpg)

>>130962

>Can't 'steal' anything when no one 'owns' anything.

Please my son, go learn about the difference between private and personal property.

In socialism/communism people still get to own stuff.


 No.131044

>>130253

>men in particular detest when they marry a single mom and have to raise another man's kids.

You have that backwards. Women HATE having to raise another woman's kids. Cliches about wicked stepmoms exist for a reason

A lot of men take pride in being good stepdads


 No.131114

>>130932

It's not irrelevant you piece of shit. If injus can do it so can anyone else. That's materialism you spooked imbecile,


 No.131120

>>131114

On this current nightmare goggles version of /leftpol/ apparently its spooked to not be spooked.


 No.131130

>>131114

Injuns, much like your mom and your dad, because I'm less spooked on you about sexuality, oh and throw in your nieces and nephews and pet dog because fuck it, I need to get my fuck

fuck your whole family, both literally and figuratively

AIDS.


 No.131131

>>131000

delusional faggots don't exist in my created gnosis.


 No.131132

also, I'm poor. travel is for rich people with 401k portfolios, which I don't have.


 No.131168

File: 335ca10801b71be⋯.png (406.47 KB, 750x834, 125:139, ClipboardImage.png)


 No.131174

File: 943046896457215⋯.jpg (13.05 KB, 207x194, 207:194, 38729385982347598346793846….jpg)

>>131168

I fail to understand that picture


 No.131177

>>131174

The US Gov under Regan created aids. Although technically they had created it before then.


 No.131184

>>130701

>society would collapse without people being forced to work

Yeah, everyone would just play video games all day. Isn't that what communism is all about, sticking it to your dad, I mean man.


 No.131376

family unit: reproduction = good for economy

communal living: reduced spending on rent, taxes, food, appliances etc = bad for economy


 No.131378

>>131376

>communal living=reduced cost of living

Wait what.


 No.131398

>>131177

They created them before, but those experiments on prisoners happened during Reagan's term iirc


 No.132300

>>131177

Pretty sure it was homos engaging in raging hyperbuttsex but go on…


 No.133151

>>131044

T. Typical "muh wimin are evul"

Stepdads can be just as shitty but according your reality, men are incapable of fun. Only women do that right?


 No.133185

>oh this should be a decent thread

<WOMEN HATE THIS, NO ACTUALLY MEN HATE THIS WOMEN ARE LIKE THIS AND MEN ARE LIKE THIS DONT U GET IT ITS BASIC BIOLOGY

*crie*


 No.133187

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>>132300

>aids was created by homo buttsex


 No.133937

>>133151

*"…men are incapable of evil"


 No.135181

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i mean if we lived in a socialist world id think alot of this what i sense to be in the op is a yearning for a more accepting and supportive world for them to more freely pursue there interests. id want kids to be born into that world and i intend to die trying to make it a reality.


 No.135417

Yeah bro let all kids be raised by single mothers that's top tier


 No.135421

>>135417

Unless you are sexist this should be no problem


 No.135424

>>135421

Who were you raised by?


 No.135425

>>135421

Also, why is it that being raised by a single mother is associated with almost every negative life outcome there is?


 No.135431

>>135425

>trusting capitalist statistics

Capitalists have an interest in enforcing patriarchal anti-woman attitudes


 No.135435

>>135431

you had me, good shitposting


 No.135438

>>135417

>let all kids be raised by the entire fucking neighbourhood

ftfy


 No.135458

>>135438

as a sexual predator, a drug dealer, a drug addict and a petty criminal that hangs out at skate parks I see no problem with this at all, this benefits me hugely.


 No.135460

>>135435

>anything that shatters my fragile brosocialist worldview is shitposting

uh, no


 No.135470

>>135458

literally all of those things go to gulag


 No.135504

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>>130241 >>Why do people cling so hard to the spook of the family? It's nothing more than the smallest unit of crime, originally formed to deprive others from the fruits of Earth, a birthright of every human, today it is still the scene of most abuse, bullying, exploitation and trauma. There's no reason why would we want to live in families instead of a more humane, communal form. In fact, it is not only obsolete, but outright harmful.

this argument takes about the same mental capacity that climate change deniers use in their refutation of global warming.

"its unseasanoably warm were i live there fore climate change isnt real" is par for the course with

"i had a bad experiance with family and therefore it is a bad."

is really petty argument imo anoyn


 No.135558

>>135504

I did not have an family issues though.


 No.135579

Family is just a group of strangers that share a bloodline. Not to say family is detrimental but religious right folks romanticize it to death.

Thr bigger spook? Marriage.


 No.135580

>>135579

um sweaty did your wife leave you? is that why you're soooo butthurt lmao?


 No.135587

>>135579

Nobody takes marriage seriously anymore.


 No.135592

>>135579

>biological connections are spooks. the absolute state of [insert board here]


 No.135595

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>>135421

considering most single mothers tend to raise generations of murderers, petty criminals and flagrant drug abusers, not to mention faggots, I guess statistics are sexist.


 No.135598

>>133937

stepmothers are bad but I can't speak from experience. its more common in this day and age for men to resent raising another man's kids, because its easier for a woman to get pregnant than for a man to get his dick, ipso facto.

>>133185

bioessentialism triggers red liberals. more at 10.


 No.135600

>>135579

>WAHHHH MY FAMILY WAS MEAN TO ME: the post


 No.135602

>>135460

women are more purveyors of capitalism than detrimental to it and consistently vote in liberal neocohen politicians who do jack fucking shit to help any sort of financial crisis and base an entire man's value on his paycheck. Hillary and Trump were last elections' lame ducks, and I'm not shilling for Bernie but he could've actually pushed that economy leftward if he wasn't a coward. I bet if Kamala Harris gets a nom nom nomination women will just vote for her based on her genitals and not what she actually stands for which is more of the same crap.


 No.135605

>>135602

Exactly. Once we have economic democracy women should be kicked out of the workplace so they can't vote.


 No.135606

>>135600

not the same poster but I had a shit mother but I ain't gonna be a dick to other people because some families are more successful than mine. that's just penis envy.


 No.135607

>>135605

not sure if you're being sarcastic here…


 No.135610

I wonder how many of these posters who despise family and marriage are mentally ill trannies.

I've seen this correlation before.


 No.135612

>>135595

>the cause of negative life outcomes entirely rests on the individual choices of single mothers

Wow what a dialectal takedown bro u are so marx!


 No.135668

>>135612

because that's the only factor. surely you jest?


 No.135669

>>135610

could very well be.


 No.135670

>>135470

t. moralfag


 No.135671

>>135610

Those things don't benefit most men at all though.


 No.135685

>>135671

Yeah, except it does.

A wife and kids literally give meaning to a man's life.


 No.135692


 No.135699

>>135685

They don't though. Stop making things up.


 No.135771

>>135750

>the poor

Nope.

The poor need family for support and they are also more prone to fall for the religious spook which implies family fetish.


 No.135772

>>135750

not the poor, just the others


 No.135773

>>135692

no argument found, just redirects.

that's why I'm hesitant to call myself "left" considering most of what I share with them is just their economics.


 No.135775

>>135771

SHUT UP DAD READ DAWKINS!!


 No.135785

>>135773

I didn't know you were arguing I thought it was a shit post.

First correlation is not causation, and second there are many factors that cause women to be single parents and nearly all of them are completely out of their control.

You saying that its their personal choice to become single mothers is literally pick yourself up by your bootstraps and just work harder to become rich mentality and not left at all, and completely ignorant of how statistics work and what they represent.

Just getting married or having a man in the house doesn't fix all the social and economic problems that crime actually stems from; capitalism and relative wealth inequality. Poor people without resources and education are less likely to be able to maintain a stable relationship and thats before jackboot thugs come in and throw poor men in jail or shoot them in the street.

If your going to stick to your guns on this go ahead and do us a favor: DONT call yourself 'left', youre not.


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>>135776

>im literally a meme

okay


 No.135795

Hi, /pol/ here. This thread gave me a hell of a chuckle. I can't believe you people are real and actually believe this marxist garbage. Humanity will survive. The best race will dominate. Traditional white nuclear families will continue to be the most successful and raise the supermen of tomorrow. The silly flirtations with communism and other claptrap will be looked upon as quaint quirks of the 20th and early 21st century. There is nothing but the eternal fascism of nature. dealwithit.jpg


 No.135801

File: 7e2601be2002784⋯.gif (172.81 KB, 112x112, 1:1, kumaPls.gif)

>>135610

the only real spook is idpol


 No.135802

>>135795

>muh nature

lol ur going extinct

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/pdf/origin_family.pdf

Historical materialism is a science. Communism will win.

Sorry sweaty


 No.135803

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>>135795

>The best race will dominate.

The race that rules everything?


 No.135810

>>130241

>Why do people cling so hard to the spook of the family?

Because without families people would just be orphans

>>130241

>It's nothing more than the smallest unit of crime, originally formed to deprive others from the fruits of Earth, a birthright of every human, today it is still the scene of most abuse, bullying, exploitation and trauma.

prove it


 No.135815

>>135810

wtf I agree with a 4th Internationale.


 No.135817

>>135802

everyone is going extinct, except mental defectives and freakshow people

>tfw you listen to Foucault and Nick Land at the same time.


 No.135818

WE WUZ MUTANTS


 No.135819

>>135790

meme or not, the ideology sticks to working class and rural classes in the US of all places. also OG Nazbol is German, not Russian/Soviet.


 No.135836

>>135817

>critical support for nick land

The dudes clearly suicidal so you have to kind of adjust his views to be not death-culty but he has a lot of good stuff. I think more people should read him because a lot of right-accelerationists are full retard where hes mostly internally consistant.


 No.135847

>Why do people cling so hard to the spook of the family?

Why do you cling so hard to the spook of bourgeoisie individualism.

>It's nothing more than the smallest unit of crime, originally formed to deprive others from the fruits of Earth,

No that'd be capitalism.

>a birthright of every human,

I guess you've never heard of orphans.

>today it is still the scene of most abuse, bullying, exploitation and trauma.

citation needed

>There's no reason why would we want to live in families instead of a more humane, communal form.

Single mom detected. Raise your own kids, no man wants to raise another man's orgasm. Also once a woman has kids her downstairs are about as tight as a gunny sack. I'm sorry your feminists sisters tricked you into believing men would want to fuck your rekt'd pussy after you had someone else's kid.


 No.135856

>Keeping the wealth of my labor and spending my limited time on myself is spooked.

Why don't all these single mothers just raise each other's kids now? Many of them don't have jobs, they could start this communal child rearing now.


 No.135859

>>135836

I like him but I love Foucault too…that's a weird combo


 No.135860

>>135847

hardcore ownage


 No.135861

>>135847

>No that'd be capitalism.

Bullshit. It's private property.


 No.135863

>>135785

you can't tell me what I am you're not my real dad.

tbqh, seriously, that's why I'm left econ, orderly societies aren't produced by capitalism.


 No.135874

>>135863

>tbqh, seriously, that's why I'm left econ, orderly societies aren't produced by capitalism.

for real its laughably inefficient they cause all these fucked up feed back loops and bottlenecks and then go 'lol y do malnourished undeveloped humans do a violence must be choose to be bad' as if real life is a cartoon


 No.135916

>>135874

Nigger what?


 No.135917

>>135861

Your mom is personal property


 No.135920

>>130241

>Why do people cling so hard to the spook of the family?

Why do you cling so hard to the spook of 8chan?

Because we are your family. Admit it.


 No.138559

>>135920

Not gonna lie this is by far the strongest argument against families in this thread


 No.138632

>>135795

>This thread gave me a hell of a chuckle

this is an yikes


 No.141166

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/humanaesfera-against-the-new-and-old-familism-down-with-the-family

Whoever is DEPRIVED of the means to satisfy his needs is faced with private property. He is coerced, if he does not want to die (socially and physically), to submit to the whims, arbitrariness and volubility of those who have the power to provide for his needs: in the case of the children, the parents.

Not coincidentally, the word ´family´ derives from the Latin ´famulus´, "slave, servant". In this word, the Latin radical ´fames´ means "hunger", according to Roman popular etymology. For the ancient Romans, the ´familia´ is primarily constituted by the power to punish (by starving) and reward (by ending the hunger) the slaves / servants (which included the wife, children, and the acquired ´famuli´).

Today, many criticize the patriarchal family defending one modern, postmodern, libertarian, matriarchal, queer, polygynic, polyandric, tribal, zoogamic, communal, digital, neo-hippie family and so on. They wish to add to the family a plurality of new adjectives, perpetuating the bondage to which the new generations are subjected for millennia.

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/humanaesfera-against-the-new-and-old-familism-down-with-the-family


 No.141188

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We don't have the technology yet


 No.141224

>>141166

Nice pasta. Didn't read


 No.141256

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>>141166

>muh patriarchy


 No.141261

>>141256

Next time I will put a trigger warning in for you.


 No.141262

>>141261

>anybody sick of my cointel idpol cancer is triggered


 No.141266

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 No.141537

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>>141224

From its inception, UNESCO had adopted a very precise scientific definition of the illiteracy that it strove to combat in backward countries. When the same phenomenon was unexpectedly seen to be returning, but this time in the so-called advanced nations, rather in the way that the one who was waiting for Grouchy instead saw Blucher join the battle[21], it sufficed to bring on the Guard of experts; they carried the day with a single, irresistable assault, replacing the term illiteracy [analphabetisme] by illettrisme [unlettered-ism]: just as a 'false patriot' can opportunely appear to support a good national cause. And to ensure that the pertinence of this neologism was, among pedagogues, carved in stone, a new definition was quickly passed – as if it had always been accepted – according to which, while the illiterate was, one knew, someone who had never learned to read, the unlettered in the modern sense is, on the contrary, someone who had learned to read (and had even learned better than before, the more gifted official theorists and historians of pedagogy coolly testified), but who had by chance immediately forgotten. This surprising explanation might have risked being more disturbing than reassuring, if, by ignoring the fact that it was deliberately missing the point, it didn't have the cleverness to avoid the first consequence that would have come to anyone's mind in more scientific eras: the recognition that this new phenomenon merited being explained and combated, since it had never been observed, nor even imagined, anywhere, before the recent progress of damaged thought, where explanatory and practical decadence go hand in hand.


 No.141593

>>130923

Muh keynesianism


 No.141617

>>141593

It's shit.


 No.142300

>>132300

Nothing like an ungreased, backdoor, hammertime love making session.


 No.142326

>>141617

a mix of Keynes and Marx is ideal.


 No.142329

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>>142326

That's not even possible.


 No.142334

>>142329

for you.


 No.143694

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>>130478

>nietzsche

>nihilism

stop posting cringe


 No.143729

>>130241

You sound like I did after I read Brave New World when I was 15

Anyway, family is only a spook because society is a spook. Scale down communities to be a natural size of a few hundred people max, and you will find that the village naturally raises children communally.


 No.143755

>>143729

You have too much faith in mob rule


 No.143966

>>143755

I'm not an anarchist, I just think smaller communities create happier people and easier economic planning


 No.143969

>>143729

Lol no, raise your own goddamn kids Chad.


 No.143976

>>143966

Sure but communities with intact families living off the grid


 No.143977

>>130241

What's wrong with crime families? You get raped by your nigger stepfather as a child so you resort to projection


 No.144101

>>143729

>Scale down communities to be a natural size of a few hundred people max, and you will find that the village naturally raises children communally.

Just pop out children and let the trailer park raise them while you're busy doing meth, the natural way.

>>143966

Unless you don't fit in, then you're fucked.


 No.144119


 No.144434

>>130241

The question is not whether or not family is a spook.

The question is, WHY DO PEOPLE CLING TO THE SPOOK CALLED CHILDHOOD?

I wish I was a kid again….

So I can show adults how much childhoos SUCKS!!!


 No.144443

people throw around "spook" without actually knowing what stirner meant. a spook is an abstract concept that someone takes to be of such importance as to render it an end in itself to be strived for above one's own self interest. there is no reason why a family unit needs to be a spook unless one prostrates his own ego before the concept as though it were something greater than himself.


 No.144476

To do otherwise would require us to resist an urge that appears to be universal in nature: procreate and ensure the survival of our own offspring. That will likely be difficult for the vast majority of people because it is antithetical to their biological instincts. When people overcome their instincts for self preservation we call it heroism and appreciate the difficulty of that endeavor. You are basically surprised that not everyone is a hero.


 No.144494

>>144434

Nostalgia


 No.144495

File: f342ed6a832c472⋯.png (3.1 KB, 215x215, 1:1, ClipboardImage.png)

There was not one thing in Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri/Alien Crossfire that was debunked by modern science yet, since it was released, so pic related may replace families entirely in the near future.


 No.144601

>>144443

Yeah but most people hold it as a spook so I don't really see the point of your post.


 No.144694

>>144601

Who? Never met a single person that did this. Go outside.


 No.144699

>>144694

If the constant reinforcement from media is not enough proof, just try questioning it and you will see how strong their reaction is. The only reason it is not rubbed in constantly is because it is thought to be universally held and unquestionable, since "muh human nature"




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