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 No.121216

LGBT is not left. It's that simple. Their fight for (seemingly) equal rights (while homosexualists and heterosexuals have had equal rights for a long time) is a fight with an imaginary enemy, which is profitable for… Who? Right, the bourgeoisie. In short, LGBT is a tool in the hands of the bourgeoisie. THEIR STRUGGLE is a sex one, a gender one, doesn't matter, but it's not CLASS STRUGGLE. I personally have not seen demands to improve worker conditions and worker solidarity on LGBT events. No, they fucking want the equal rights that they already have. As for me, I don't care whether a person is gay or not. If he fights for worker rights and his struggle is a CLASS one, I will respect him regardless of sexual orientation

 No.121218

>homosexualists and heterosexuals have had equal rights for a long time

“no”


 No.121219

Kill yourself


 No.121221

We need a sex politics containment thread now.


 No.121222

>>121221

Kill yourself


 No.121226

>>121216

>while homosexualists and heterosexuals have had equal rights for a long time

I mean, in the US, the right to have sex for about 18-19 years, and the right to marry since like some time under Obama. It hasn't been that long.

But I generally agree to an extent. I'm burned tf out on gay shit. I used to love pride parades, but now they kind of piss me off. I don't know if they were any less corporate in 2012, but they at least felt like there was more to them… in my eyes at least. The last one I went to was so much boring corporate shit and so much of the fucking DNC monopolizing the political message… I used to see socialists and greens and the like. If they were at the last one I went to, I missed them.


 No.121227

>>121226

Kill yourself


 No.121229

File: 728c2ae4b238da5⋯.jpg (23.59 KB, 240x239, 240:239, nigga-is-you-serious.jpg)

>>121222

>bumps thread

>tells someone who saged to kill himself


 No.121236

File: a4c60376389e1ef⋯.png (74.84 KB, 251x251, 1:1, 1394219536353.png)

>LGBT is not left. It's that simple.

Ok? Not everything is about political economy.

>Their fight for (seemingly) equal rights (while homosexualists and heterosexuals have had equal rights for a long time) is a fight with an imaginary enemy,

nigga you high

>which is profitable for… Who? Right, the bourgeoisie.

How in the fuck? At most it's one more thing to virtue signal about for woke points.

>In short, LGBT is a tool in the hands of the bourgeoisie.

When you say "in short" it's supposed to be because you are summarizing a point you made, but you just stated your thesis twice.

>THEIR STRUGGLE is a sex one, a gender one, doesn't matter, but it's not CLASS STRUGGLE.

Again, not everything has to be about class.

>I personally have not seen demands to improve worker conditions and worker solidarity on LGBT events.

Because like you said social change to accept gays isn't really related to class struggle. Why would they be advocating for something different than the purpose of an event? Demanding LGBT parades be about class is as dumb as demanding for a union to be about LGBT people.

>No, they fucking want the equal rights that they already have.

Being gay is still a capital crime in a lot of places.

>As for me, I don't care whether a person is gay or not.

Why you mad then?

>If he fights for worker rights and his struggle is a CLASS one, I will respect him regardless of sexual orientation

But apparently if s/he also does pride parades at other times it chaps your ass?


 No.121237

>>121236

Good post. OP is a closet faggot.


 No.121238

LGBT is not just the gays though, just saying.

Also in many parts (most) of the world, gay people do not have equal rights in law.

>Da gays are secretly bourgoies tools

I thought we ditched this stupid idea 30+ years ago when all tankie countries legalized gays and pardoned+apologised to all the gays they imprisoned? They were ahead of almost every western state on this front.


 No.121239

That's an obnoxious and misleading way to put it, but read to the letter you're right.

To clarify one could say that being super pro-gay is as unleftist as being super anti-gay


 No.121240

>Shitpost as tankie

>get 40+ (You)'s

Every time.


 No.121249

This

LGBT faggots go the gulag too


 No.121263

>"THEY ALREADY HAVE EQUAL RIGHTS!!!!!!"

False Over he vast majority of our worlds landmass they still face discrimination

Most religions on earth openly call for their persecution

And even in first world states where seemingly equal rights have been granted to them institutionalised discrimination and cultural backlash DOES continue

I don't think any harm exists in a socialist movement saying "LGBT Workers are still workers and do not deserve Euro be mistreated for personal choices / Immutable characteristics"

That's not IdPol it's just common sense


 No.121268

>>121216

Being gay is cool and ok as long as its not the only thing that makes up your entire personality, there's a difference between normal people who happen to be gay and people who are like "LOOK AT ME IM RAINBOW REEE"


 No.121271

trannies are literal capitalism. victims of the pharma and plastic surgery industries. disgusting.


 No.121277

File: 1f08a98a869a65c⋯.png (453.59 KB, 470x569, 470:569, x3.png)

I have many faggot friends all the best faggots, everwhere I go faggots and you know what they tell me? They say anon, I'm glad you gave me the choice to be gay and that you respect my lifestyle choice so I respect your straight white cisgender male superior status and I never talk about, promote, or heaven forbid publicly go on a date with another person of the same sex. In the spirit of MLK JR day I recognize what happens to minorities when they get too uppity about being considered humans with basic dignity. These are the type of friends I like, as a leftist. Only the best gays that no they're place. Fuck shemales though that shit is hella gross.


 No.121318

>>121216

Yay, more idpol bitching.

Back to /leftypol/ with all of you, faggots.


 No.121319

File: befc4e93dbe6fc1⋯.jpg (130.11 KB, 640x635, 128:127, YEA2KCX.jpg)

>>121318

>idenpidy doesnt realllll


 No.121445

It's a DNC tactic yes, one that is quickly losing relevance though since even right wingers are much more accepting of it than in the past. So if you can't use it for political DNC it has no relevance.

Their struggle is one of acceptance and how people perceive them. But I think people will naturally be opinionated about it, I also don't see how it's super relevant to have a sexuality.


 No.122711

File: 77b8904c4483eca⋯.png (65.49 KB, 500x514, 250:257, ba6966ee1b518e0a4ed902e33a….png)

>>121318

Go to r/socialism, niggerretard


 No.122712

>>121218

Yes, they have.


 No.122714

>>121216

Remember that LGBT does not represent all homosexual and trans people.


 No.122717

File: a3432df80b654f1⋯.jpg (1.44 MB, 2036x2100, 509:525, 7a3927fdba517c226b525a688f….jpg)

>>121263

He is talking about western countries.

>institutional discrimination, cultural backlash does continue

Oh yeah, corporations celebrate "Pride days", their pride parades in every city, TV shows litterally propagating that "being gay is OK". Say faggot and you can also say goodbye to your career.

Oh yeah, such discrimination.


 No.122722

File: 4b7b8b69ce7f2e2⋯.jpg (233.47 KB, 640x853, 640:853, F0wOdhE.jpg)

>>121236

>Being gay is still capital crime in some places

So, maybe, the western faggots should support their rights and not islam as they usually do.


 No.122739

>>121216

kys homophobe


 No.122743

>>122722

Where in the West do gays "support Islam"?


 No.122751

File: 01e78ca4c8c4375⋯.jpg (103.56 KB, 623x667, 623:667, popcorn time.jpg)

>>121216

> LGBT is not left.

True.

> LGBT is a tool in the hands of the bourgeoisie.

Not exactly. LGBT is no different from any other concern that is not directly related to the class struggle. I.e. it can be used as a tool.

> I personally have not seen demands to improve worker conditions and worker solidarity on LGBT events.

And you will not see such demands in reading clubs, or historical re-enactment fairs.

> As for me, I don't care whether a person is gay or not. If he fights for worker rights and his struggle is a CLASS one, I will respect him regardless of sexual orientation

Which is a correct position.

>>121236

> How in the fuck? At most it's one more thing to virtue signal about for woke points.

What rock were you living under? LGBT (well, IdPol in general) is often used to hijack and/or destroy Left movements. Once people start mixing in Liberal matters (rights of minorities) actually radical questions swiftly get phased out.


 No.122757

File: 283c7a959e9262f⋯.jpg (157.03 KB, 688x1024, 43:64, SCN061017-Capital-Pride-Pa….jpg)

File: 2f1d16e801a3ae1⋯.jpg (1.04 MB, 1000x1000, 1:1, 3eyxb1w5hbb11.jpg)

File: ac8d34864feee7e⋯.jpg (99.51 KB, 600x399, 200:133, lgbt_brum_web.jpg)

File: b9fe81a00e9637f⋯.png (107.33 KB, 500x326, 250:163, refugees-welcome-here-refu….png)


 No.122772

>>122751

Fuck off scapegoating wrecker


 No.122779


 No.122790

>>122717

Commercials and Libs getting people kicked of twitter for saying faggot does not invalidate that LGBT people still do genuinely face discrimination in some of these backwater de-industrialised shitholes like the worst parts of the coal and rust belt / Midwest


 No.122800

File: 7c41bd47857c784⋯.jpg (126.07 KB, 640x759, 640:759, idpol.jpg)

when you say that idpol is used by the ruling class to divide the left you are right but not in the way they think you are

you are the one doing the dividing


 No.122801

File: 9a9e316ffc7a36d⋯.mp4 (863.66 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, Hahaha This Sucks Man The ….mp4)

>>122800

>working together with woke multinationalis is a blow against the bourgeoisie


 No.122802

File: e7ba2a5cac1c175⋯.jpg (94.91 KB, 450x783, 50:87, Bob__Agent_of_Hydra_3_by_R….jpg)

>>122800

That is some damn fine bait you have there.


 No.122885

>>122790

> genuinely face discrimination

There are plenty of people who face discrimination. This alone doesn't make them revolutionary or even anti-bourgeois.

>>122800

> you are the one doing the dividing

Sure. Substituting movement against Bourgeois order with the defence of minority rights means that Bourgeoisie wins. Top tier logic.


 No.122895

first our revolution. class is the biggest division

"first labor then gays" is my motto tbh


 No.122897

>>122895S

So MY revolution has to wait for YOURS? Nice homophobia you got there asshole.


 No.122903

>>122901

Don't take the bait.


 No.122905

>>122903

Too late for that.


 No.122929

>>122903

It's not even bait. It's satire. We really have lost the ability to laugh, haven't we?


 No.122986

>>122897

Nice bait. Now fuck off to /pol/


 No.123003

File: 19f4b0f040a91b2⋯.jpeg (71.18 KB, 1000x670, 100:67, white copy.jpeg)

>>121226

It’s because LGBT interest groups are no longer in opposition, but in the government. Pride Marches re no longer edgy, but no opposing them is.

>>121238

>I thought we ditched this stupid idea 30+ years ago when all tankie countries legalized gays and pardoned+apologised to all the gays they imprisoned? They were ahead of almost every western state on this front.

In Russia being one of “the gays” was illegal tell 1993. CPRF and KKE are actively against “the gays.”

>>121263

>institutionalised discrimination

Institutional Discriminations is illegal.

>cultural backlash

rightfully so

>>122790

>face discrimination in some of these backwater de-industrialised shitholes like the worst parts of the coal and rust belt / Midwest

Because gays are used by corporations to glorify the urban cosmopolitan heart of capital and look down on their region.

>>122800

>hating cultural conservatives builds solidarity

lol

>>122897

Yeah because your revolution is shit, it promotes lifestyles that doesn’t reproduce the human species, and attempts to marginalize those who do. Not doing reproductive labor is exploitation read Cockshott.


 No.123128

>>123003

>Institutional Discriminations is illegal.

No it isn't.


 No.123216


 No.123217

>>123216

Can you point me to the section that shows that institutional discrimination is never legal?

For instance denying black people loans because they're black or refusing to make a gay wedding cake?


 No.123223


 No.123226

>>123223

>In recent years, the Supreme Court recognized that discrimination against LGBTQ individuals violates our constitutional principles. In the 2015 Obergefell v. Hodges decision establishing full marriage equality in America, Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote the following words about the same-sex couples who brought the lawsuit: "Their hope is not to be condemned to live in loneliness, excluded from one of civilization's oldest institutions. They ask for equal dignity in the eyes of the law. The Constitution grants them that right."

>And yet our nation falls short of fully realizing that right. And because of those who insist on challenging equality for LGBTQ people, the Supreme Court in the Masterpiece Cakeshop case was once again faced with the question of whether the law of the land recognizes equal dignity for same-sex couples.

Imagine citing an opinion piece that says the opposite of what you're saying because you didn't read it.


 No.123228

>>123226

I never claimed that their isn’t people who want to discriminate against LGBT, I just said that it is illegal.


 No.123230

>>123228

How is it illegal if the baker that discriminated won the case and faced no legal penalty?


 No.123232

File: 1bc1f7cd6dc1e06⋯.png (45.38 KB, 1136x183, 1136:183, Screen Shot 2019-01-29 at ….png)

>>123230

Nigga, do you read?


 No.123234

Homosexuals and transexuals are fine and scientifically valid. "Queers" and "transgenders" is just humoring mental illness.


 No.123236

>>123232

>The Supreme Court issued a narrow ruling Monday in favor of Masterpiece Cakeshop bakery owner Jack Phillips, who refused to make a wedding cake for a same-sex couple due to the shop owner's religious beliefs.

Can you?


 No.123340

"Equal rights" for faggots is leftist.

There are different factions of egalitarianism. Theirs (and mainline leftism) has decided to focus primarily on 'equal rights' for identity, because it works.

It works because it builds a confederation to use against white men, who are opposed to egalitarianism instinctively, because they are genetically, intellectually, aesthetically, and physically superior to all other identity groups and it's unnatural for the weak to bully the strong as they do now under this leftist globo-homo hegemony.

Your orthodox marxist shit is a LARP. If you actually read Kapital, you'd see that socialism is predicted as an *inevitable* consequence of capitalism. Dialectical materialism produces more and more and more towards post scarcity, and eventually it just becomes more efficient to socialize everything, and efficiency will win out in the end.

The socialist revolution happened decades ago. News media is a propaganda mouthpiece for the ruling class, there is a progressive income tax and national bank in every country and if any country dares to not have one they get bombed to oblivion or the means of communication owned by the state labels them as pariah states and agitates endlessly for wars against them. The government is eternally in the business of providing subsidies and stimulus and tax breaks and bailouts to industry and ☘️finance☘️. The socialization of schools for politically correct education of children.

The socialist dream was realized long ago. But there's a problem: white men still exist.


 No.123345

File: c97afff24e92431⋯.jpg (352.84 KB, 2560x998, 1280:499, intersectionality.jpg)

>>123340

>identitarianism

>rights

>redistribution

>banks

>regulation

>having anything to do with socialism whatsoever

If capitalists exist, it's capitalism. If capitalists don't exist, it may be socialism.


 No.123357

>>123345

This is just context denial of history.

Privilege, or private + law, is a law that applies only to one person (or, now, a group of people), with the implication that is an advantageous law or exception granted to them.

Privilege referred broadly to the nobility and aristocrats, not the bourgeoisie merchant class. Both sides of your picrel is bullshit, because there is not a single law that advantages young people, attractive people, able bodied people, or any of the other things on the left side. And, on the right side, Arnold Schwartzenegger is a bourgeoisie and powerful ruling elite who was brought down by an illegal immigrant ugly maid. That ugly illegal immigrant working class maid had enough power to take down a billionaire sitting politician despite him not committing a single crime, because he stuck his pee pee in her. His crime was being male (and race mixing but no body mentioned that).


 No.123372

>>123357

>Privilege referred broadly to the nobility and aristocrats, not the bourgeoisie merchant class

Which, of course, changed when the capitalists deposed them to create government, and with it the institution of private property (the government/thug protection of MoP capitalists "own" against the workers who must use it, so that capitalists can exploit them for profits), which privileges them above the only other class that still exists, that of labor.

Until private property is abolished, and with it the capitalists that depend on it, the system in question is capitalism.

>Arnold Schwartzenegger

>brought down

Leaving aside the fact that he wasn't a "billionaire", the guy is still worth hundreds of millions of dollars solely as the result of his divorce. Speaking of which, he wasn't humiliated by his maid, but by his wife, the daughter of a wealthy and powerful old industrial/political dynasty into which he very much married up, and a humiliation that only happened after he'd left office and declined a presidential run. Not to mention he's still getting film roles as fast as he cares to sign them.

Even pointing out what a pathetic slap on the wrist he got, the entire ordeal was strictly porky vs. porky.


 No.123434

>>123340

>socialist revolution happened a years ago

>orthodox marxist shit is a LARP

>muh white men

>muh political correct education

>muh taxes are socialism

>muh goberment

Nice try, mr. Peterson, now fuck off to PragerU


 No.123437

>>123357

>muh black maid sued Schwarznegger and won=socialism

Did you thought about the role of media in that process? And interest of bourgs standing behind them? Can you imagine what could happen if Schwarznegger won? The medial companies are litteraly making money on these #MeToo, LGBT etc. craps.


 No.123441

File: 793244497316e6f⋯.jpg (51.87 KB, 668x690, 334:345, 177.jpg)

>>123340

>The socialist dream was realized long ago. But there's a problem: white men still exist


 No.123442

File: f298b9b1e3dd096⋯.jpg (261.72 KB, 492x847, 492:847, 20190130_200216.jpg)

LGBT is left


 No.123459

File: 1683de1a980f337⋯.jpg (48.4 KB, 750x563, 750:563, 1683de1a980f337ffce078bcfe….jpg)

>>123442

LGBTs get universal free reeducation under communism.


 No.123460

>>123434

Jordan Peterson is anti white you dipshit


 No.123481

>>123372

Wew. Did you really just [sic] me like a pretentious faggot journo?

>He wasn't a billionaire

Okay. Was he rich and powerful and bourgie though? We're not getting chased off into the weeds on this. He was a sitting politician and a very very wealthy man with business interests.

>He was only rich because of his divorce

An outright lie, moving right along.

>He wasn't taken down by his maid but by his wife / It was porky vs porky

Okay so after all that bullshit you admit that Schwartzenegger was indeed a porky after all. Thanks for wasting our time with your s0ylent pettiness. Now we can get to the actual issue.

How come this kind of porky vs porky didn't happen in the past, in those good old days of patriarchy? If it's porky vs porky it should have been happening as long as there have been porkys. But powerful rich men being taken down for non-crimes of sleeping with the help is a very new development. Powerful rich men didn't only just recently start sleeping with the help. The only thing that has changed has been the anti-male culture of crucifying a man for being a man. His wealth and power did not protect him. It was his maid's power, relative to his, which destroyed him. His wife didn't call in favors to destroy him. It was all handled in the court of public opinion and the legal courts, where he was disadvantaged and discriminated against due to his sex, and received no benefit from his power and money (other than what kind of lawyers he could get, I guess). Clearly his advantages weren't enough – all this despite him doing nothing wrong and having commited no crime.

>imagine using [sic] on an internet forum.


 No.123484

>>123460

Nice LARP, /pol/


 No.123489

>>123481

He was accused of sexual assaults in 2003. But he became a governor.

And what he has lost after the scandal with maid? Yes, his wife has divorced. But his wealth, power and popularity he hasn't lost.

It was just classical celebrity scandal.

Wow.

That's your proof of socialism in America?

"Crucifying men for being men" is just narrative of corporations, the white liberal billionares are pushing and lobbying for these "new" "liberal" ideas and values. Where is that socialism?


 No.123525


 No.123546

>>123003

> In Russia being one of “the gays” was illegal tell 1993. CPRF and KKE are actively against “the gays.”

Stop inventing things.

In Soviet Union only specific sexual act of male homosexuality was outlawed (and even it only nominally). As for KKE, it is not "actively against “the gays."" - that's Right-wing propaganda. KKE simply voted against the multiple reforms that also included introduction of gay marriage. Vote had nothing to do with the gay marriage and everything with reforming regular marriage (that would increase rights of the wealthy partners).

> read Cockshott.

Kill yourself.


 No.123547

>>121218

They dont actually.

At least here in the UK you can create a job opening that is only for LBTQP+s.

Where as you cant create a job opening thats only for normal people.


 No.123548

>>123340

> If you actually read Kapital, you'd see that socialism is predicted as an *inevitable* consequence of capitalism

Try reading it yourself. It is communism that is inevitable, and it is historically inevitable (not actually).

> Dialectical materialism produces more and more and more towards post scarcity

Just stop.


 No.123549

>>123548

So how come we always get fascism instead?


 No.123550

>>121216

homosexuality is a bourgeois disease.

It stems from idleness and drug use, typical of the improductive parasites living at the expense of the worker.

That's why faggots were sent in gulags.

>i don't care whether a person is gay or not

but you should.

because they sure do, to the point of defining themselves as homosexuals first and foremost.

and as such it will allways be the center point of any of their decisions.


 No.123580

>>123481

>Did you really just [sic] me like a pretentious faggot journo?

>We're not getting chased off into the weeds on this

Just goes to show you neither know nor care about the facts, and are content to regurgitate gibberish based on muh feefees and muh spooks.

>An outright lie

That wasn't what I was >implying. Rather, my point was that even after his divorce, he's still worth hundreds of millions.

>was indeed a porky after all

Due to his business ventures, his investments, and his alliances, yes.

>But powerful rich men being taken down for non-crimes of sleeping with the help is a very new development.

Oh, ohohoho, oh my. That's the oldest porky-vs-porky powerplay in the book:

https://www.theatlantic.com/sexes/archive/2012/11/american-political-sex-scandals-the-early-years/265483/


 No.124111

>>123550 Gays being sent in gulags is due to their deviant sexual behavior, not because of them simply being gays (USSR penal code defined the punishable offense as the sexual act between two men)

In general, there are gays (normal dudes who keep their sexuality private and are in class struggle) and faggots (rainbow-flag obsessed, liberal idpolers)


 No.129094

based thread


 No.129117

LGBTs are just one of the many special interest groups that real political movements need to include in some way. Everyone needs their interests represented in some way.

Only problem is that stupid close-minded people, whether conservative, progressive, christian, muslim, atheist, whatever , tend to hate being on the same side.

Noone actually likes greedy people or groups. "Everyone" in total is for the most part against disproportionally represented or otherwise powerful entities.

And of course, individuals want their own freedoms protected too, so on that side of the fence it is also beneficial to be for a system where everyone holds a similar amount of power.


 No.129118

>>124111

Gays = faggots

Stop with the arbitrary line. All to the camps


 No.129123

>>129118

How much shitposting are you from 1/10, because sometimes it gets too hard to tell here.


 No.129131

>>129123

Fuck off fag


 No.129175

The gay thing is yet another front in sexual politics to assert idealist, ideologically rightist aims on society in spite of all evidence and the flow of nature and human history. It is an assertion of sex-positivity when the reality of the world should push many men and women towards sex-negativity and a rejection of sexualist mores. (And it is doing exactly this; a good 1/3rd of men basically don't participate in sexual relations any more, or if they do it is only as a vice to be managed rather than anything positive.) By promulgating a gay lifestyle as an alternative, and more importantly removing all discussion of the reality of sexual life as a depressing nightmare best avoided, it pushes those on the fringes of society out of polite discussion entirely, and leaves people alone and terrified of everything around them, and when they themselves will be accused of having the incorrect sexual opinions. It is, in short, part of the invasive, totalizing movement necessary to late capitalism, where your sex life is no longer merely restricted but what you are allowed to feel and think is carefully regulated by powerful interests. It's an insult, and intended to be such.

The obvious answer to "gay rights" was simply to stop killing or institutionalizing people for homosexual behavior, and to stop with the obsessive search for homosexuals which has obviously been a failure and the interest of a few maniacs. The average person didn't really care that much about homosexuals, outside of perhaps disgust and a belief inherited from religion that such excesses were sinful and degrading. The drive tp hunt down and stamp out homosexuals was purely an interest of the upper classes and of a few obsessives, and that's why eventually there was a backlash and homosexuality was decriminalized, which was the right thing to do. Since that failed, the new strategy of the elites has been to push a deliberately noxious "gay lifestyle" and identity politics to continue the same aims as criminalization under a new guise, and most importantly to preserve the privilege of elite homosexuals (who were largely immune to persecution under the old laws), while keeping low-class homosexuals in a perpetually low social status and segregated (in order to function as a stable for elites to engage in sordid acts). If you want to see the true nature of the gay movement displayed, just watch a liberal erupt when you mention the idea that a homosexual-acting man would take a wife and sire children, and you get the idea that this "permissive" environment is all about segregation, quarantine, and retaining class-based privileges, rather than even liberal civil rights.

As for marriage, who the fuck cares? The state shouldn't have a say in marriage at all. There is no such thing as a meaningful marriage without the function of reproduction and family implied, so a gay union is just a legal fiction enjoyed so that same-sex couples can acquire legal benefits from the state, rather than something morally equivalent to a straight marriage. It is quite insulting that as we're celebrating "gay marriage", the rest of us are saddled with new restrictions, eugenics laws, forced family planning, "marriage counseling", and other invasive procedures. Far from the stated goal of the gay movement to abolish state marriage, the actual effects of the gay marriage legislation is to solidify the state's role in marriage and turn it from a statement of union between man and woman to a legal status requiring state approval, a process which has been ongoing ever since eugenics became the ruling ideology.


 No.129184

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>>129175

Absolutely this. Identity politics is a blunt instrument to crush genuineness.


 No.134561

>>129175

Wait, what's wrong with marriage counseling? Do you beat your wife?


 No.134567

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>>121216

TIme to dump this useless thread already. Also, tankies get the bullet too. The only true communism is anarchist.


 No.134568

>>134567

nigga how you gonna give the workers the means of production if not through the power of the state like nigga hahaha nonono nigga what the fuck this nigga


 No.134720

> I personally have not seen demands to improve worker conditions and worker solidarity on LGBT events.

What about this event? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesbians_and_Gays_Support_the_Miners

Shouldn't we encourage more of this?


 No.134726

>>134567

>bumps ancient thread from dregs of the catalog by requesting a bumplock

Kek


 No.134727

What a shit thread.

>>134720

>Shouldn't we encourage more of this?

Honestly? I wouldn't say so, render unto LGBT movement the things that are LGBT, and unto workers' movement the things that are related to labour.


 No.134736

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>>134735

>abloo bloo bloo its all da joos


 No.134737

>>134735

don't you ever get tired of the same bait?


 No.134738

this thread needs to die already


 No.134739


 No.134747

>>121216

I'm not gonna tell you to read a fucking book because you're visibly allergic to them.

Just go back to /pol/, hitlerboi.

Try harder next time.


 No.134753

>>134739

Because homosexuality and so on are not inherently opposed to commodity production, which is why LGBT movement has been recuperated so easily and pink capitalism is now a thing. I don't see a problem if a homosexual is indeed an anticapitalist(since I'm speaking as one), but let us not pretend it'd be because such person has been granted higher insight into the inner workings of capitalism because of buttsex or scissoring.


 No.135151

the modern popular gay rights movement is class collaborationist at best and hates poor people at worst so who cares ?


 No.135155

>>135151

>bumping this


 No.140732

>>121277

The brocialists on this board will take this post serious


 No.144928

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>>121216

Speaking as someone on the right, or as you guys would say "bourgeoisie". I would say that most of us hate/dislike the LGBTQP.

Many of them advocate for a policing of gender laws, more regulations (like uni-sex bathrooms), granting them the status of a protected class. All of these hurt our ability to live, earn money, have a stable job. Or as you guys would say make a profit.

Not to mention that employers have to cover the medical costs of the HIV/AIDs ridden beasts from hell that fetishise developing as many life threatening diseases as possible put a strain on our "bourgeoisie" health care system, weather it be state ran like Britain's, or Employer paid like in the USA.

The LGBTQP also threaten our family values and ability to produce a successful off spring. Many people become homosexual or genderdisphoric due to sexual abuse as a child, and coincidentally many LGBTQP people make up the majority of child sex abusers.

So even tough you hate me, and I hate you, Lets agree to disagree and agree to hate the gays.


 No.144930

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>>122800

>Idpol divides the classes

Also

>Idpol helps people recognize oppression against the bourgeoisie

Which one is it faggots?


 No.144932

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>>121216

>is a fight with an imaginary enemy, which is profitable for… Who? Right, the bourgeoisie.

>the bourgeoisie

>The Jews

E. Michael Jones explained this.

Homosexuality is a Jewish value, not Christian and it is used as a ramming tool of subversion.

He says that the homos are the new proxy warriors of the ☘️oligarchs☘️, and they are becoming the third wave against White people; first wave were negroes and the second were women.


 No.144933

>>144928

>Bourgeoisie

>Have a job

Are you retarded, nigger? You're more proletarian than most LGBT people by virtue of having a job. Also, wages literally eat into profits.

Also, capitalists/employers actually support this LGBT stuff, specifically the most disease ridden retardation. They're not even supporting healthy LGB people or T who are not wretched hons. You have rainbow flags being hoisted by most megacorps, who see the LGBT crowd as whales who'd buy their merchandise and hormones in the case of T.

Basically, the LGBT 'movement' is a sickly vocal minority used by capitalists as lapdogs. (A large minority actually. I'd say around 40-45% of the LGBT population is this. With 30% of the rest being simps who follow along with the lumpen trogs. You also have the rich faggots and trannies on top who control the movement at the behest of their corporate overlords.)

On the other hand, I've known some pretty decent and neat people who are homosexual or trans. I think part of the issue why SJW politics is so common is that plenty of them come from Christfag families and so they think that every white person is this cuckservative strawman. They also tend to join up with the typical 'left vs right' mentality that most people have, so they just hate everything 'right-wing'.

It doesn't help that due to shitty family histories, our horrible job market, capitalism, and generally being raised wrong, a lot of these people are incapable of holding decent jobs. And, this is an issue with most young people actually. Even straight guys. (I mean, just look at /pol/)


 No.144934

>>122717

How do I counter radlibs who say that corporations don't have an agenda, or care about LGBT people and they're just using them for profit? Say that LGBT people are such a minority that it wouldn't be profitable to pander to them?


 No.144935

>>144933

>Are you retarded, nigger?

They already said they are "on the right".


 No.144936

Controversial opinion: minorities being accepted under capitalism is a good thing even if it does not contribute to the collapse of Capital's reign of terror.




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