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I started reading Thomas More's Utopia recently and was wondering if we could get a thread going about left wing literature. Anyone else read this and have thoughts on the book? Can it be considered proto-socialist?

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Has anyone started organizing a protest for this persecuted victim's release, yet?


you mean the murderer/rapist?




based and redpilled


Who da fuck is dis?

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Is Franco "Bifo" Berardi worth reading? I rarely see him mentioned here.



Yes, read Heroes.


Yes. He's a cool dude.


People here and on /leftypol/ aren't really fond of autonomism.



Why is that?



I can't speak for the entire board but I suspect it has to do with the lifestylist aspects of autonomism (living as a communist "here and now" instead of working towards a future communist project). Not him btw.

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This comrade is right. We need a new definitive leftist web site. This is pretty much a refugee camp for anons disgusted with /leftypol/. And more importantly, if we want to build class conciousness we need to get people out of that tanky shithole and be a more open, debative, heterogenic community.Comrades, when i see a rational debate going on here or in /leftypol/ i get fucking surprised, and thats a problem we all need to solve personally when typing either here, or on a new website.

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>righty idpol spergout

Fuck off idiot, GG was in fact majority left-liberal when it was active.



>1st image

stopped reading after 'SJW-dominated media'

>2nd image

>SRS is SJWs who joined SA after being raided by le anonnymoose


>Goonswarm is a thing

Yes and that buttfuck nothing to do with this.

>they're doing the same thing on plebbit



>muh leftist rhetoric

forget where you are m8?

>SRS vs. some random subreddit

Irrelevant and no proofs.

>SRS 'attacked' MRAs somehow with SPLC in some way I won't describe

Benis lol

>HideMyAss dindu nuffin

>Sabu dindu nuffin

8=================D~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~~~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

>SRS SWJ goons did Progressive Stack when they hijacked OWS when they 'took over' their social media somehow, because Occupy was a top-down organization with an official social media wing

>also social media is literally the only way Occupy interacted with one another

>here's a screencap of a post from 5 years ago that proves it

take your fucking meds

>SRS did r/creepershots


they did that? that's terrifying, it'd take the force of a strong gust of wind to do that!

>cult copypasta meme

>my uncle who worked at Nintendo's division in Northern Ireland during the Troubles saw some shit, but he said it was nothing compared to the boogeyman


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Hey that's me. If anyone is curious what the the post image is; It's a mod showing how someone is also trying to subvert the board by spamming threads with video games that seem to be pushing a liberal/SJW "agenda". The mods don't seem to care anymore now though because they know they can't contain the autism.

On the topic of this thread though, there's some good points that have been made. I don't think we need to migrate for now. But if we do, it's not only going to have to be better than what we have now, but it'll have to be much better otherwise the community will be split yet again. For now it's small boards like /his/ and /lit/. But it would also be cool if we could convince Hiro to make a sister board for /pol/ in the same way there's /v/ and /vg/.



You do realize GJP was being used to coordinate industry blacklists, right? Like it's in the leaks if you bothered to read them, got a lot of attention from GG and was why I signed on. People like Alastair Pinsof and Kevin Dent stopped finding work in the industry because they stepped on the wrong toes, Wolf Wozniak actually apologized for publicizing that Zoe Quinn sexually harassed him.

(Also it was coverage, doesn't have to be a review to be a CoI!)





why do people still care about this shit

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Is there any known person from a bourgeois background who was a Marxist or revolutionary?

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zhou enlai


All of them up until 1920.


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>People aren't just slaves to their material interests.

Those people are what we call "idealists" also known as spooks. Self interest is the only thing that matters.


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>She died penniless in a public ward after having spent all her money running soup kitchens

One severe case of pathological altruism.



>Marx was an idealist

steaming take


this is 2018

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Looks like they've started land expropriation! I'm overjoyed that they're at least trying to make things right; unfortunately it's gonna be so embarrassing when the famine hits cus they didn't dedicate enough time and resources to public agricultural development education initiatives.

The boers deserve everything that is about to happen.

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>without food, everyone starves.

Self-correcting problem. I predict the number of people facing starvation in SA will dramatically increase, and then rapidly decrease.


you nigger subhumans are all gonna starve



The Boers were there before the Bantu. Also Africa was conquered out of self defense and the need to acquire more resource and land in order for white people to survive. African and Ottoman Pirates had been attacking for centuries. There were Massive Muslim t*rkic Khanates fixed on invading Europe.



Shut the fuck up you neo colonist, reactionary pig. There is no such thing as "white people"




I'm not going to accuse you of being /pol/ trying to defame us like /leftypol/ does, but I will say that these statements make people like




Seem right.

For the most part though I believe they should deport the whites back to Europe, simple problem solved.

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How would rate leftist youtubers who range from anarchist to Marxist-Leninists from a scale of 1-10.

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>AKA soviets who were just superior to any of your nonsensical communes

Franco wasn't a soviet and Trotsky was considered to be a fascist collaborator by the USSR.

>who also saved the Europe from fascism where your LARP anarchism absolutely wouldn't have been allowed

It's not the 1940's anymore and fascism is coming back to Europe.

>It's almost as if you need a state to help you

No, because then Granada, Chile, and Burkina Faso would still be around.

>This just means "we can't sustain ourselves so we get invaded"

Only if you have a very poor grasp of language.

>Soviet Union is the greatest creation of the last century.

Where is it now?



nigga the only difference between what happened with the bolsheviks and the anarchists is that the bolsheviks had literally millions of pissed-off imperial army troops from WWI who were ready to revolt, thus swelling the numbers of the bolsheviks' forces and also throwing the imperial army into disarray

china had a successful communist takeover because the entire country had gotten utterly fucked by the japs and by the time the japs got their dicks kicked in the country was a toss up between the communists and the nationalists.


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There just isn't any justifiable reason to be any kind of radical feminist if you were born with a cock, since it would purely be a (misguided)altruistic gesture. Whenever I see male TERFs and SWERF's they always come off as massive white knights to me.



I can agree with the perspective of people who defend Stalin even if I don't fully go along with it myself, but there honestly is no way of defending Beria. The dude was fucked up.



my "feminism" (some would call it that) is more and more about getting rid of domestic care, so women aren't basically useless for 2 years, raising fucking youngoids .

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Looks like Facebook is training the new generation of Hitlerjügend.

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oh boy the new Fall stock insults are in!

>other bits of the response

It's a funny thing, I effed up earlier and responded to one of your posts thinking it was in a different thread, which is what looks like you've done here responding to my post. I guess we're even now lol


>faggot nigger cunt

ow the edge



Reminder that autists will be purged on the day of the reckoning for being parasites who steal from the proletariat.


>Looks like Facebook is training the new generation of Hitlerjügend.

And youtube and twitter and pretty much the whole internet.

Kids have been taught about the importance of race, nation, etc and they know that if they don't become nazis then evil ess jay dablya will all come out of the bushes to get their waifu's panties in video games or something dumb like that.

The future is going to be bright as a 20 megaton nuke lighting the whole sky.



How long have you had these suicidal urges? U ok?


>the future belongs to the shotsocs because de ebil gaymurr misogynerds

take your meds



How old are you?

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Are nonbinaries/genderqueers a distraction from class issues and therefore a threat to true anti-idpol leftism?

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>Butler's argument is that sex and gender are both socially constructed.

Gender clearly is, but sex is real and comes from people’s genetics.


>She is not some biological determinist hack like you

Sometimes biological determinism is right, especially when dealing with stuff like Biology.



> sex is socially constructed.

> biological determinism hack

Holy shit please stop




How neck deep into idpol do you need to be to ask whether an identity group is a problem and then simultaneously claim that you're "anti-idpol". Tbh people like this are just /pol/ tier edgelords who want to use "anti-idpol" as a justification for their reactionary social ideas without even understanding what idpol means.



Nazis are an identity group…


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The progress of the preceding period (1949-91), which had not been exactly slow, compares with the rapidity with which the whole of China’s national economy, and with it Chinese banking, progressed during this period (1991-2018) in about the same way as the speed of the mail coach in the good old days compares with the speed of the present-day automobile which is whizzing past so fast that it endangers not only innocent pedestrians in its path, but also the occupants of the car. In its turn, this finance capital which has grown with such extraordinary rapidity is not unwilling, precisely because it has grown so quickly, to pass on to a more “tranquil” possession of colonies which have to be seized — and not only by peaceful methods — from richer nations. The question is: what means other than war could there be under capitalism to overcome the disparity between the development of productive forces and the accumulation of capital on the one side, and the division of colonies and spheres of influence for finance capital on the other?


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The problem with WWIII is NATO war games gave the Warsaw a week before it ripped the guts out of the NATO war machine if it remained conventional due to the numerical supremacy of the Warsaw Pact and modern China has even more of a numerical advantage. Going nuclear in NATO war games escalated to full scale exchange within only a few hours of the first tactical nuke went off thus MAD.

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On a scale of 1 to 10, how mad are you that Trump is president?

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This line from Burrough's encapsulates the entire fiasco.

>Thanks for the American dream, to vulgarize and to falsify until the bare lies shine through.


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The only thing that made me mad was that Jill Stein couldn't even beat Ralph Nader's 2000 numbers. That was very sobering though. No electoral politics can be accompanied without a strong push for voting reform, Duverger's Law is too powerful.


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Underrated post



I want that pic but with the text “If Communists believe revolution was inevidble, why do they need so many guns? Because of what will be done AFTER the revolution?”



Less mad than I would be if Hillary was.

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You know what's funny?

I can snap and kill every mother fucker on this board if we met IRL.

Seriously, think about it. I'd have your windpipe crushed and your eyes gouged out before you would even know what iss happening.

You guys talk big shit. Watch yourselves.

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>Buying guns legally



Dunno. Never experienced that.



It's a 9mm, faggot. A child could handle it, not to the chest, though.


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Lissen up Indians, Nazis are a culture not a costume.





Those noodle arms are pretty cute tbqh, I'd pound his twink ass.

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>So we hosted some Californian academic partners a few days ago, and talking with one of them was quite interesting. He's a tenured professor at the University of Hawaii - he's also the head of an institute at the Uni. While I'm not at a university or jobs are somewhat similar and his salary is around 3,5 times higher (before taxes) and after taxes the difference is even bigger.

>One third of his salary goes for his two kids' college who are studying around 5000 kilometers away. Around one fifth of his salary goes for his family's health insurance and another fifth for rent for the house they live in - which is a whole lot smaller than the (old) house I live in. Day to day expenses are around 2,5 times higher than mine and he is unable to save any money. And his quality of life was highest among the visiting group. People from California and NYC have even higher day2day expenses.

>His job is almost a Darwinian struggle and if he gets seriously sick or injured, he'd lose his position as the head of the institute and his family would most likely hit rock bottom. He was in awe of us Yurpoorans who can send our kids to tuition free universities, pay a much smaller chunk of our salaries for health insurance. He believes that we live in a decent political system where the politicians actually care for us folks

Why is it so expensive to live in certain US states (even higher than Europe) but really cheap to live in others?

Shouldnt people move from the overcrowded high tax states to the cheaper ones? Isnt that what the US state model is all about?

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Yeah I can confirm is ridiculously expensive in Hawaii, honestly it sucks and I can't even afford to move off this rock. Its sweltering here during the summer these days due to climate change(used to never get above 89°f/31.67°c here in the 2000s but it regularly gets into the 90s now) yet Hawaiian Electric nickle and dimes you so I can't get air conditioning either.



HEI charges through the nose because nearly all of our power comes from burning oil, which is vastly more expensive than natural gas or coal used by most areas. The cherry on top is our perpetually stalled geothermal efforts that could easily supply the entire archipelago's needs.


>universities >intellectuals



>Shouldnt people move from the overcrowded high tax states to the cheaper ones?

No, because the cheaper ones:

1. Suck ass. Do you really want to move from beautiful temperate California to bumfuck hot and humid Oklahoma? Do you really want to be surrounded by xenophobic red necks who hate you just because of where you moved from (god forbid if you're an ethnic or religious minority)? Do you really want your entire life being controlled by the local sheriff and politicians who will always get re-elected?

2. They're not really all that cheap. The minimum wage is way lower, there's very little public transportation (forcing you to own a car and all the expenses that come with it), the infrastructure is usually old and unmaintained (like the dikes in New Orleans). If you sit down and list out all possible expenses, even with taxes, often times being poor in a poor area is actually more expensive and restrictive than being poor in a wealthier area.



>Do you really want to be surrounded by xenophobic red necks who hate you just because of where you moved from

To be fair Califags are really annoying. They spend to much time obsessing about X celebrity, X twitter drama. And they sexualize everything.

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Oh no oh no oh no oh no OH NO!

The proud boys are making us look stupid! They are open carrying guns, and our "communist" brothers and sisters brought fucking dildos to the protest!

THIS ISN'T FAIR! Why are the proud boys beating us?!?!?!?!?!?


You told me we were winning and the nazis and fascists were defeated? WHY ARE THEY HUMILIATING US LIKE THIS?!?!?!?

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That's because California is a shithole anyways. Besides the drought and fires will take care of them. Nature is fascist. You can't shoot your way out of mudslides, dehydration and Forrest fires. See ya never.



Most punks are radlibs by default. When GG died he should have taken every last one of them with him



I believe those pics are from Austin and Phoenix actually



>material conditions have anthropomorphic traits

>they subscribe to my ideology

Couldn't you just make ginjika like a normal person?


>radlib punks

you'd be surprised how broad an autism political spectrum some of the punks I've met fall under. I've met radlib-types, but also anarchists, ancraps, lots and lots of nihilists, and a few each who came off as socialist, and poopsoc.




Don't start that here.

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