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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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0f7904  No.520608[Reply]

Glory to God in the highest!

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bac50f  No.690902

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>>690618

>>690704

here is the webm




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bc249d  No.508486[Reply]

>What is this thread?

The designated political discussion thread. Christians from all parts of the political spectrum are encouraged to discuss relevant political topics and ideas, as well as ask questions and hopefully recieve answers from all points of view. Anything related to politics that doesn't actively involve the Catholic/Orthodox/Protestant churches should go here, so if a politics thread is deleted, this thread is the reason why.

As a reminder:

All board rules apply to this thread, so keep things civil.

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1472fa  No.690728

>>690026

So why do you take Jesus driving the moneychangers out of the temple or David assigning the vulnerable post to Urias literally?




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dfad1c  No.353817[Reply]

“But I have prayed for you, that your faith would not fail. And you, when you have turned back, strengthen your brethren.”

Luke 22:32

Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition with thanksgiving, let your requests be known to God. And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your thoughts in Christ Jesus.

Philippians 4:6-7

Confess your offences to one another and pray for one another in order to be healed. The insistent prayer of a righteous person is powerfully effective!

James 5:16

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7513a9  No.690911

I feel hopeless…

I'm completely lost from all points of view and depression is killing me slowly.

I hate this world (and myself above all) from the bottom of my heart and I'm strongly considering monastic life (even though I need a lot more time to think and experience the world)

Please pray for me, I am desperate.




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2ab09f  No.690928[Reply]

Imagine if you gave every christian a copy of the bible but this copy has most of the familiar pages intact but all of the obscure parts (90% of the bible) are replaced with nonsense on the page that is meant to give the illusion that there is other stuff in the bible when the "christian" is flipping through the pages. How long will it take for the christians to notice? How many of them will notice?

876e55  No.690940

>>690928

Most 'christians' never would notice unfortunately.


f3b89e  No.690981

>>690928

If they actually read the Bible it would only reaffirm their gnostic heresies.

>God condoned genocide in the Old Testament. Oh, I don't like this at all. He's probably not Jesus and this part of the Bible doesn't matter.

>Hey, they called Him rabbi, I guess He must be a practitioner of judaism.

>I probably don't have to follow this part. This seems backwards and sexist.


f3b89e  No.690982

I'll start posting some lesser known verses itt. Lets see how the cucks on this board react.

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."

Matthew 5:17

“For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.“

Matthew 5:18

“For whatever was written in former days was written for our instruction, that through endurance and through the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope.“

Romans 15:4


f3b89e  No.690983

>>690982

“But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.”

1 Timothy 5:8


f3b89e  No.690985

>>690983

"In my vain life I have seen everything; there is a righteous man who perishes in his righteousness, and there is a wicked man who prolongs his life in his evil-doing. 16 Be not righteous overmuch, and do not make yourself overwise; why should you destroy yourself?"

Ecclesiastes 7:15-16

"And they determined in that day, saying: Whosoever shall come up against us to fight on the sabbath day, we will fight against him: and we will not all die, as our brethren that were slain in the secret places."

1Maccabees 2:41




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378253  No.689364[Reply]

Everything I read in the Bible seems to make some kind of sense to me, save for one thing: the text on hell.

If you read the Bible, you seem to find that hell is considered eternal judgement. And those that aren't saved will be sent there.

To me it seems that no man has a life that brings him pleasure continually all the while he lives it. With that said, it just doesn't seem right to me that God allows an unsaved man to have hardships in his life like everyone else, and then have him sent to hell after his death. It's like the order is struggle in life, and then unspeakable damnation for eternity, rather than at least a life filled with pleasure, following which is unspeakable damnation for eternity, as with the apparent example of Jesus' parable of the rich man and the beggar.

Again, everything else in the Bible makes some kind of sense to me.

What are your thoughts?

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cac7b9  No.690950

>>690949

>about people who were mocking and laughing at them.

*at Him

typo


c4a1e5  No.690951

>>690949

Thomism doesn't mean blindly following Aquinas in everything though. I'd argue that the idea that the bliss of those in heaven is to enjoy the suffering of those in hell has never been *the* mainstream idea in the Roman Church, even if it came up several times.

And today I'm not aware of anybody who seriously believes that. While there aren't the same trends about Gehenna as there are in Orthodoxy, the idea that those in Heaven are happy about the suffering of those in Hell seems to be extremely niche.


cac7b9  No.690952

>>690951

I dont know. Maybe this thing is more common on chan boards or Internet Christianity in general? I also never met similar Catholic. And there are people like bishop Barron so there's that.


199d68  No.690960

>>689364

It's a false presupposition to think suffering = bad and pleasure = good. Transcend the carnal mind. Psalm 119:71


1ed0a2  No.690984

>>689364

What condemned the rich man? It was his walking by Lazarus. Would you deny Lazarus justice? God does not only defend the oppressed, He vindicates them. To separate God from the reality of Hell is to make God indifferent, which the Scriptures testify He is not. Our deeds have eternal consequences. Only grace can save us. Pray and act.




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5592eb  No.689563[Reply]

I believe I am called to become a monk.

How do I proceed?

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d55031  No.690395

>>690393

I was called to marriage and family, rather than the cloistered life. Why am I here? Fellowship.


a48d51  No.690410

>>690393

>Why jump to conclusions?

I've been here too long.


6e97d3  No.690943

Consider becoming a Salesian instead. Check out their documents…


e7fc79  No.690971

>>690382

The IDs normally resets after a day or so, even with the same IP.


d55031  No.690980

>>690971

No they don't. My IP is static and my ID never resets in the same thread.




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0e8bb9  No.690953[Reply]

Sure we got /nofap/ and /relationship/ threads but there are not threads for workout, recommended reading and self-improvement related stuff.

How are you guys doing/what are you reading right now and what's your recommended reading list?

Post anything SIG(Self-improvement general) related.

14c745  No.690957

>>690953

My kingdom is not of this world.


d38336  No.690963

>>690957

That’s a good one, Leo Tolstoy is a great writer. I’m reading Crime and Punishment by Dostoevsky right now

As for working out, I’m taking a break for the next few days as I prepare for college, then I’m going to start PHAT training


166b24  No.690973

>>690957

t. slovenly gnostic


920274  No.690977

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I'm doing alright. Been having some trouble with quitting porn and masturbation, but it's better than it used to be. I've been doing pretty good with lifting recently, got some proper lifting shoes last week and have been working on my low bar squat form, seeing good bench gains and solid gains overall. I'm currently reading the Brothers Karamazov by Dostoevsky and the Bible (just started Numbers in the OT). I've also been watching a few videos on the YouTube channel Sensus Fidelium, some good stuff there.

>>690963

I loved Crime and Punishment, there's just something really comfy about the setting and the characters have a certain charm to them. The orthodox theme is really nice too, even as a catholic.


14c745  No.690979

>>690973

>John 18:36

>gnostic

How can you improve yourself when you don't even know your Bible?




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c5c042  No.657770[Reply]

Purpose

This thread is to help all the Orthodox anons on this board to gather their thoughts, uplift each other, share edifying materials, and ask important questions.

Glory be to God in all things.

Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me a sinner.

Useful Links

Ancient Faith Radio: http://www.ancientfaith.com/

OrthodoxWiki: https://orthodoxwiki.org/Main_Page

Canons of the Seven Ecumenical Councils: http://www.intratext.com/IXT/ENG0835/_INDEX.HTM

The Orthodox Church in America: https://oca.org/

Orthodox Christianity (a site that hosts articles predominantly written by clergy): http://orthochristian.com/

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Hey guys. So I'm 20 and I'm about to become a Catechumen. After I've been to church more and I'm further on my road to Chrismation I want to make an icon corner. I still live at home in my old bedroom plus I can't afford nor do I have room for anything extravagant. My basic plan is getting five medium sized laminated paper icons and a simple wooden cross I can make myself. John the Baptist/Forerunner is dear to me so I want to feature him prominently in my icons. This is my basic setup. I can't put them on a shelf so I'll have to attach them to my wall with plaster tack or something. I hope my design is ok.


19f652  No.690925

>>690922

Why not? Also, I would recommend Icon of Trinity visiting Abraham.


9f7fd3  No.690935

>>690925

The eastern end of my room is real cramed with my bed and synth and everything. I don't really have any free floor space so I can only do this basic setup until I move out. I'll consider adding Abraham, thank you. I was also thinking about eventually getting Triumph of Orthodoxy icon.


5d8226  No.690975

A retarded question, if I may:

So we know that after resurrection we will have bodies like Christ with agility, incorruptibility, passing through objects and so on and so forth (as well as joy-pain distinction between saints and damned to put it roughly).

My question is that post-resurrection bodies have spirit-like descriptions so what would be difference to live without body as spirit and after resurrection? What would be a difference between, lets say, an angel/demon and saint/damned after resurrection?

sorry if this question sounds stupid or anything, Its just the thought for a night.


5d8226  No.690976

>>690975

huh, my ID changed again. Weird




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0ba29d  No.670387[Reply]

Entry note: This is a thread entirely dedicated to the most holy Rosary. No discussions about denomination, no "muh vain repititions", no "muh idolatry/goddess worship" or whatsoever. Discuss your experiences, all things Rosary-related, history, saints and so on and so forth.

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The Rosary. The prayer. The weapon.

Attacked by many - such as the devil and his demons - countless times. Prayed even more often. Consisting of divine prayers like the Angelic Salutation and the Our Father, has it been divinely revealed fully to St. Dominic by the blessed Virgin Mary. Despite the attacks of the devil and his minions has it been preserved through pious men and women, through our holy Mother and even Christ Himself - time and time again was it re-revealed when the faith grew weak and the people of God grew lazy and fell off the faith through tricks of the devil.

A prayer that goes with prayer beads - who are seen by God Himself and the angels, the holy ones as well as the fallen ones, as a sword. A powerful weapon to crush the enemies of God and to cut into the flesh of satan himself.

Will you stand by and neglect it ? Or will you join the ranks of the soldiers of God, armed with the weapon that can convert people as it can destroy evil likewise ?

The Rosary consists of 5 prayers: The Sign of the Cross, the (Apostolic) Creed, the Our Father, the Hail Mary and the Minor Doxology. In private you may add prayers such as the prayer request by our lady of Fatima - the so-called Fatima prayer - the Hail, Holy Queen, Litanies and others.

With every decade of Hail Mary's you meditate a different mystery. There are 4 (in the German-speaking realm 5) sets of mysteries for us to meditate, of which each one consists of 5 mysteries:

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321429  No.690154

>>687759

No clue what that is anon, if you want to use it then go for it, I'd use the fatima prayer myself tho


a9ffe7  No.690330

Christ the King Novena - Day 8

In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Amen.

Christ, our Savior and our King, renew in me allegiance to Your Kingship.

I pray for the grace to place You above the powers of this world in all things.

I pray for the grace to obey You before any civic authority.

I pray for the grace to fervently bring about Your Kingdom in my family and community.

I pray that You will reign in my mind.

I pray that You will reign in my heart.

I pray that You will reign in my will.

I pray that You will reign in my body.

I pray that You will reign throughout all the world.

O Prince of Peace, may Your reign be complete in my life and in the life of the world. Christ, my King, please answer these petitions if they be in accordance with Your Holy Will…

[Mention your intentions here]

As I reflect on Your second, glorious coming and the judgment of all mankind, I beg You to show me mercy and give me the grace to become a great saint. I pray that not only will I spend eternity with You but that You may use me – a sinner – to bring others into Your Kingdom for Your glory.

Christ the King, Your Kingdom come!

Amen.

In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Amen.


a9ffe7  No.690333

>>690330

So tomorrow is the last day of praying this Novena. I just wanted to say thank you and I will probably make a thread for continued praying of Novena Prayers.

Thank you. Also it is day 6 of the 54 day Rosary Novena. Is anyone still doing it?


a9ffe7  No.690867

Christ the King Novena - Day 9

In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Amen.

Christ, our Savior and our King, renew in me allegiance to Your Kingship.

I pray for the grace to place You above the powers of this world in all things.

I pray for the grace to obey You before any civic authority.

I pray for the grace to fervently bring about Your Kingdom in my family and community.

I pray that You will reign in my mind.

I pray that You will reign in my heart.

I pray that You will reign in my will.

I pray that You will reign in my body.

I pray that You will reign throughout all the world.

I pray that You will reign in every area of my life.

O Prince of Peace, may Your reign be complete in my life and in the life of the world. Christ, my King, please answer these petitions if they be in accordance with Your Holy Will…

[Mention your intentions here]

As I reflect on Your second, glorious coming and the judgment of all mankind, I beg You to show me mercy and give me the grace to become a great saint. I pray that not only will I spend eternity with You but that You may use me – a sinner – to bring others into Your Kingdom for Your glory.

Christ the King, Your Kingdom come!

Amen.

In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Amen.


4a65fe  No.690972

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>When we praise and bless Our Lady by saying the Angelic Salutation she always passes on these praises to Almighty God in the same way as she did when she was praised by Saint Elizabeth. The latter blessed her in her most elevated dignity as Mother of God and Our Lady immediately returned these praises to God by her beautiful Magnificat.

The Secret of the Rosary is a must read for any Catholic here.

http://www.catholictradition.org/Classics/secret-rosary.htm

I don't think a link to the book itself has been posted yet. I like this one because of the pictures and retro feel of the old site. God Bless!




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98c07b  No.690954[Reply]

Is arrogance the actual quality one needs to have faith?

The way I see it, people have died horrific deaths, people that have been perfect servants of the lord, model christians. Not talking about jesus, I'm talking about the 6 year old child who is a beacon of good and entirely wholesome, that ends up with brain cancer and crying their eyes out as they lose their ability to walk/speak/see and eventually die with the feeling of being burned alive from neurons malfunctioning.

Yet, we are asked to have faith, and that faith will save us. I know this is referencing our souls mainly. But what about our lives? People seem to think that if they pray, and have faith, that god will wink occasionally and make good things happen. I know many christians like this. All I can see here is arrogance, the arrogance to think that they are deserving of good things - that the 6 year old with cancer didn't deserve good things as much as them.

This makes me think that praying is basically some kind of insurance policy for something that you don't even know exists (heaven), and even if you are absolutely sure it does exist, you must still accept the fact that life is a random hellish torture chamber, and heaven is the only respite. If I had this belief, I don't know how I would refrain from killing myself, since everyone here is doomed, and you can't help yourself - let alone anyone else.

Would like input,thanks.

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289135  No.690965

>>690954

>Is arrogance the actual quality one needs to have faith?

Arrogance and pride in Christian understanding is overexaggerated view of himself. Humility on the otherhand is accurate view of ourselves. So when we state, for example, that we are children of God, made in His image and likeness and we are exalted and are above all creation, this is not arrogance but an objective fact, for it is said by God himself. But at the same time we realize that we are limited and are made by Him, we are inferior to Him, so this is humility. If we would think that we would be equal or above God, that would be arrogance. we need to differentiate the two

with that being said, there are two things to note here:

1) Humans are immortal (If that retarded hafizposter shows up, banhammer awaits him) and they dont disappear but continue to exist in afterlife with their soul.

2)You are forgetting that mankind wont leave their bodies behind permanently. Both saints and damned will arise at day of resurrection of the dead, because of Jesus assuming our human nature.

Asides these two, what you are saying are vain experiences mostly that will fade away and net gain for your immortal soul would be zero. Temporal things cannot truly satisfy us on the long terms. What I found good yesterday are boring today. I enjoyed building empires in strategy games for example, but now I find them boring, I enjoyed ball with friends but its boring. These temporal experiences are vanities. Humans are made in image and likeness of God and only thing that can actually really satisfy Human for eternity is God.


98c07b  No.690966

>>690965

yea, i guess this is all good information and reasoning, but only if you are the type of person to just take a book as fact, that was written last millennium, by people you never knew.

I guess this will always be my hang up.


98c07b  No.690969

Anyway, sorry to bother. I always do this. Make a dumb thread that I shouldn't. I simply will never be able to be christian, because I cannot reconcile the bible being anything else than another creation of man.

Feel free to delete the thread, I need to sleep anyway.


289135  No.690970

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>>690966

The fact that those people died in horrid ways but affirmed resurrection of Christ is quite enough. There were dozens of people affirming it and later, Jesus appeared publicly before ascension. Fact that it spread rapidly also affirms said notion. Only religion with similar spread rate was Islam but that was due to Mohamed literally bribing people with stolen goods from caravans and persecutions by military expeditions, as well as deception. Apostles on the otherhand, gor Crucified, beheaded, flayed alive, stoned and so on and so foth and this, without material gains. Paul even denied marriage to concentrate more on spreading the word of Christ (and this considering that he was notorious Anti-Christian pre-conversion)


bf6caa  No.690974

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>>690954

Congrats, you're starting to think, but you've just assumed prayer is a selfish activity. There are plenty of people who suppose so, but that's not the Christian attitude when it comes to prayer, that's the atheists in foxholes attitude to prayer.

Atheists in foxholes pray that the mortar shell will land in someone else's hole. Christians are supposed to ask for the safety of all the foxholes.




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737a26  No.690968[Reply]

>member of the youtube ((skeptic)) community turns out to be a scumbag and backstabbed

>People still acts surprised by this



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d1ad99  No.690491[Reply]

That's to say, what convinced you your religion was the correct one, and which arguments swayed you in favor of them over materialistic/nihilist ones?

Asing because I've had an interest in the faith for a while and grew up a protestant but fell out of the faith pretty quickly. It's not like I'm exactly the chad hedonist or anything, but I'm just not religious anymore. It's a nice thought, but nice thoughts don't count for much.

That said, I'm still interested in what erased the doubt for others, even if I don't have that comfort myself.

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335068  No.690877

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>>690491

I studied eastern religions and esotericism for a while, studied philosophy and was extremely dissatisfied with it. Became a Spinozist notionally because it made sense, left school noticed leftists had destroyed the world I hadn't paid attention to in 4 years, and met a Catholic girl with whom I disagreed a lot, continued to do philosophy stuff. Trump was elected, and I got involved with 4chan, listening to JBP and my stance towards the Church began to soften because I was seeing it first hand for the first time in my life really and engaging with it since my gf was inviting me, although I had yet to make a leap of faith and was still working on a philosophy of Nietzschean self-made meaning. I continued this work after I dumped her except now drawn to philosophers like Julius Evola and Spengler, intellectually I had basically gone to hell, and saw that this stood in sharp contradistinction with faith. I had understood the full ramifications of life's meaninglessness under nihilism. So I took the leap, this was in February.


335068  No.690883

>>690877

I suppose I had made smaller leaps before February though, enough that I was going to Church and thinking about it as more and more viable.


474517  No.690909

>>690491

I'm not a Christian, but the more I learn and understand this universe, the more it seems unlikely that it wasn't destined by a greater force.

This planet, for instance– the planet that hit Earth to create the moon needed EXACTLY the right velocity to put us in the orbit we're in– the one we take for granted, that allows life to exist at all. Without that 1 in a trillion pool-shot, there'd be no life.

Then it was showered by meteors made partially of frozen water. Again, extremely rare circumstances.

And now we delve into the possibility of other dimensions. What at the top of those dimensions? So electrons might not be particles, but rather parts of 4-D strings intersecting our 3-D perception. Which means, there may be 5-D, 6-D, etc. At the top, would be a universe that governs it all. One tiny change to the top dimension DRASTICALLY changes all the ones below it.

So yeah, I'm filled with wonder, but not assumptions. I remain agnostic– dynamic to change, just like the universe that we inhabit.


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>>690498

Same story as this. A friend shared this screencap with me which shifted my view on Him overnight.

Also unrelated; I need help quitting p*rn, please give me advice to stop.


46895b  No.690967

E. Michael Jones pointed out that prayer is the opposite of masturbation. Thinking over the implications, I came to realize my attachment to self-pleasure was the only thing preventing me from returning to the true Catholic Church. I wanted to believe the Protestant meme that masturbation cannot condemn you, but…when did I ever pray? When did I ever put on Christ?

Jesus Christ did not masturbate, Jesus Christ was sinless, and the fruits of sin are death. Yet, I couldn't stop on my own. With fear in my heart, I went to confession, and let out everything I could think of. I have not masturbated once since then, although I still suffer from lustful temptations, but I did not achieve this on my own, but only through the grace of Jesus Christ.

I do not know how else to convince any Protestant of the power of the sacraments, except to say that through my own will I had no power against sins of the flesh, but I only did when I gave up on my own will, and put on His.




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2ce6f7  No.690770[Reply]

Do you believe there is a political motivation behind it? Doing that in a regular fashion asserts evangelical predominance by default. Evangelicals happen to be more pro-Israel as well, which made me think.

Alternatively, do you believe the lifelong vow of chastity to be compatible with human biology? Or is it just a recipe for disaster?

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0dff02  No.690924

>>690923

This. The same people who want abortions and mutilate kids genitals attack the church just because She's their enemy.

They couldn't care less about the children when those same people are the ones advocating the "I'm a pedo but not a monster".

The Church had the roman empire against her, the arians, corruption of the clergy during renaissance, prot reform, French revolution etc and its still going strong. Now its modernism and gay priests but that will end one day.


0dff02  No.690927

>>690791

>who forbid marriage

Not knowing that back then there were cults saying you shouldn't marry be a winnie the pooh degenerate and implying Paul meant it as a prophecy.

1 Corinthians 7:1

Now concerning the things whereof you wrote to me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.

According to your logic Paul says I'll things about himself

More

>implying the church doesn't consider marriage as a Holy Sacrament

>implying Eastern priests can't marry

>not understanding that not everyone wants to have a woman

>not knowing what a vocation is

>interpretating wrongly the scripture on purpose to support your heresy.


fc1e26  No.690929

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Its more that the media will bash anything Christian whether it be Catholic, Protestant, or Orthodox.

They just hate Christ wherever He is found.


985425  No.690937

>>690927

It is good to not touch a woman, its a suggestion, the roman papy church strictly forbids its clergy to marry , don't lie. And this wasn't always the case for the first thousand years

Its an evil wicked innovation


0dff02  No.690945

>>690937

So now Satan calls people to remain celibate then? Hmmmmm

Also Eastern priests can marry retard and in the early church celibacy was a common practice and the church on the 10th century more a less decided to enforce in the west so the priests would find more time to serve better god.

If you want to marry then do it. It means you are no good for a priest. Nobody forces you to become one.

Go cry somewhere else




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239673  No.690626[Reply]

As a catholic, how am I supposed to deal with MJ being murdered?

3d8ff1  No.690683

>>690626

Michael Jackson? Just mourn and celebrate his catalog, but always keep in mind the extent Satan and his ilk went to discredit and destroy the man.


33b230  No.690685

Michael Jordan is dead?


028bac  No.690699

Be outraged at the absolutely disgusting, devoid of morality state of the (((industry))) and let that motivate you to grow in virtues so that you can fight back against this corrupt civilization.

Also enjoy the music, it's good and that's what he would want.


2a6956  No.690942

>>690626

Moonwalk into church and pray




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99a16f  No.491187[Reply]

Didn't see a qtddtot in the catalog, so I'm creating one. I'll start it off with this question. Is sodomy between a man and a woman sinful?

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cb315c  No.690226

>>690117

It's up to you, do whatever you want.

In my OrthoParish there are several people whose baptismal name is not the same as their secular name and nobody cares.

And, BTW, there are some saints that are more recognisable today not with their baptismal names but with their secular, sometimes even pagan names. Ofc, I am not suggesting that you will become a saint…


70f883  No.690469

What's the connection between Christianity and Babylon? Christianity is very similar to other religions in that area and mentions Babylon by name many times.


f9dac4  No.690479

>>491187

Asking op's question, also with oral. Assuming it's married, is it really sinful? Asking for a friend.


301628  No.690710

>>690469

Babylon since its first mention in Genesis was cesspool of anthropolatry, sin, idols, more sin, pride in particular, worldliness, hatred of God, even more sin etc etc. And it got even more overblown since Babylonian Captivity. Babylon is type of the World, city of Devil.

>>690479

As far as I remember ending in any other place than vagina is sinful. And oral sex can be used only as form of foreplay/getting things started, not as integral part of intercourse.


f9dac4  No.690941

>>690710

>ending

So it's fine if you stick it in the vagina after using somewhere else? sorry for being graphic.




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