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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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0f7904  No.520608[Reply]

Glory to God in the highest!

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159615  No.714445


Done. We urge swift action

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bc249d  No.508486[Reply]

>What is this thread?

The designated political discussion thread. Christians from all parts of the political spectrum are encouraged to discuss relevant political topics and ideas, as well as ask questions and hopefully recieve answers from all points of view. Anything related to politics that doesn't actively involve the Catholic/Orthodox/Protestant churches should go here, so if a politics thread is deleted, this thread is the reason why.

As a reminder:

All board rules apply to this thread, so keep things civil.

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cd144e  No.713133


Papal monarchy is best monarchy.



No one commented on these points. I felt jipped because some sperd ripped the conversation away from the political topic.

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dfad1c  No.353817[Reply]

“But I have prayed for you, that your faith would not fail. And you, when you have turned back, strengthen your brethren.”

Luke 22:32

Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition with thanksgiving, let your requests be known to God. And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your thoughts in Christ Jesus.

Philippians 4:6-7

Confess your offences to one another and pray for one another in order to be healed. The insistent prayer of a righteous person is powerfully effective!

James 5:16

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293f54  No.713695


fetishes are demonic temptation, stand fast brother

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6aadb2  No.714548[Reply]

what are (You) doing for halloween?

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7c01e6  No.714739

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Actually, i'm gona try and beat this game. Idk why, but it always gets to me. But every Halloween, i always try to beat it. Doesn't help that at times, the difficulty is stupid hard in certain sections.

Anyone else doing a Video game Horror playthrough?

4d548d  No.714749

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If the weather's good, I'll visit the graves of my grandparents and relatives and the chill. Maybe play some Castlevania in the evening.

821c0f  No.714797

We don't celebrate Halloween in my country really. Gonna get drunk alone and watch horror movies probably.

ec17f5  No.714802


Go out in the streets and minister to the homeless

98b264  No.714819


Will you be doing a youtube playthrough of it?

I've beaten this game awhile back. It's a meaty game for a F2P mod.

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c0df5c  No.714810[Reply]

And here's why

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c0df5c  No.714813

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2)Galatians 3:27 on Baptism

The context of this verse is one within the grand argument of Paul explaining how believers are to be justified by faith and not of the Law. He links believers(also his audience as the intended reader) to the blessings of Abraham and God’s promise to him where the gentiles shall participate in through faith in Jesus Christ. The Law, meant to function as a schoolmaster or pedagogue who disciplines the Israelites before the advent of Christ. These are connected to our main verse mentioning Baptism where we put on Christ, indicated by the use of “for” which serves as the connector.


This connection would also entail something about Baptism, that it is connected to the process of justification by faith, in this case being an explanation of why believers are called “Sons of God” in the preceding v.26. The motif here echoes the use of Baptism in other areas of the Pauline corpus, notably Romans 6:3 and Colossians 2:12 in which Baptism is used in conjunction with the benefits of union with Christ. It would also be part of one being grafted into Christ formally under this implication.

OSAS believers, Baptists and Evangelicals may simply push the view of the so called Baptism of the Spirit to avoid the implications of this. While conceding for the sake of showing Anderson’s and typical OSAS believers inconsistency would aid this refutation, an argument for why Galatians refer to water Baptism would be given, to further demonstrate the flaws in their eisegesis. For one, the updated form of Strong’s concordance and lexicon, the Bauer Lexicon opposes this in outlining the Scriptural usages of Baptism. One of the definitions for Baptism it gives is the “Christian sacrament of initiation after Jesus’ death”.


Amongst the verses listed to use this definition of Baptism are the ones mentioned here. OSAS, Baptists or Evangelicals may object to this, stating that “it isnt the Bible”, but this only makes them inconsistent when tPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

c0df5c  No.714814

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3)Galatians 4:8-11

8 Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods.


9 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?


10 Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.


11 I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.


To prevent this from showing OSAS and his views of the Galatians salvific status as false, Anderson claims in his sermon on Galatians 4 that it simply means that Paul simply thought they were saved when they in fact are not. So he doubts their salvation. This interpretation does not make sense as it does not match the very structure of the verse. Had Paul wanted to convey the idea that he now doubts whether they had even been Saved, he wouldnt had said that they known God or rather known by Him but rather express himself closely with his interpretation. But as the text in its english form shows, this is hardly the case.


Should this plain meaning be insufficient, a more in depth analysis of these verses will be given. First off we begin at the word “know” in reference to being known by God. This term in Biblical usage typically refers to one’s relationship with God(eg, 1John 2:3, 4, 14, 3:6, Hebrews 8:11). When used in the context of “known by God”, the same sense of intimacy is the case, alongside election(eg, Genesis 18:19, Amos 3:2).


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c0df5c  No.714815

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4)Galatians 3:1-5

3 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?


2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?


3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?


4 Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain.


5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?


Anderson’s eisegesis here proves deficient. In his sermon on Galatians 3, his overall view can be expressed as: the Apostles preached the Gospel to the Galatians and ministered to them, they didnt follow and not Saved at all, they return to the Law.


By analysing these verses deeper, we will start to see how Anderson’s understanding of them doesnt conform to their flow.


The opening verse tells us the reason for the Galatians’ foolishness. Given the use of “bewitched”, it may be possible that their succumbing to the Judaizers could be due to an “evil spiritual influence”. Bauer’s Lexicon defines the Greek for bewitched(βασκαίνω) as to “exert an evil influence through the eye”. Usage here is metaphorical, no doubt referring to the influence of the Judaizing group. Yet this is foolishness as the Gospel was preached to them. The visual reference to Christ used here may indicate that Paul utilizes the rhetorical technique of ekphrasis which focPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

c0df5c  No.714816


Next, Paul asks the question of how the Galatians received the Spirit. This unfortunately for Anderson blows his case out of the water, as such indicates that Paul presuppose that the Galatians actually received the Holy Spirit. Oddly for Anderson, he doesnt mention anything about the Spirit in v2, possibly due to this. Still, it must be clarified that this reception of the Spirit is through faith, or in this case, believing the Gospel preached and given what is stated in v27, Baptism as part of this.


Moving to v3, we see more confirmations that advice against taking the OSAS viewpoint. The phrase “having begun” is an aorist participle  ἐναρξάμενοι(enarxamenoi) which its only other reference is Philippians 1:6 which refers to the very work God will do in the believer. Bauer’s lexicon notes that in both contexts, what is referred to here is the beginning of the Christian’s life. The two verses even parallel each other, with Galatians being more ironic given its pastoral situation. This detail is left out of Anderson’s own sermon on this chapter and it is quite obvious why, once this is considered, it would entail the Galatians as actually receiving a beginning from God who works in them and having received the Spirit. These are defeaters to his interpretation that the Galatians were never Saved in the first place.


On v4, the “suffering” could invoke the sense that the Galatians went through some persecution, perhaps even due to the incursions of the Judaizers. In Anderson’s sermon, nothing of this is implied. In this verse, the particle γέ is used, as shown in the Greek render below:


τοσαῦτα ἐπάθετε εἰκῇ; εἴ γε καὶ εἰκῇ


This particle is meant to place focus on a single idea or place according to the Bauer lexicon. Thus this would suggest the Galatian’s experiences of “sufferings” tPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

29e7ed  No.714818


Nice work OP. Wonder how OSAS Baptists will address these

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fee572  No.714806[Reply]

>Be Baptist

>Reject Mother of God

>Reject that God suffered and died

>Thinks the child in Mary is just some normal human fetus that Jesus Logos descended into

1e7dbd  No.714808


Enough with these shit bait threads.

I'm not a Baptist but I keep seeing these same threads flooding this board and we already have like 3 so winnie the pooh off please. We don't need another.

f7a102  No.714817

Because baptists hate the early Christians. That's why

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416c3c  No.553707[Reply]

New meme thread because the old one is autosaging, starting with a request: I need the exploitable 8ch logo, have this crop in return

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1603a8  No.713453


how to burn post on 8ch?

7e297c  No.713644


>sell what you own

>implying that commies wouldn't just starve the poor people to death

802882  No.714633

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b81302  No.714807[Reply]

My Pastor told me that no matter what I do, no matter how bad I sin or even if I fall away, I will always be saved. I have felt assured of my salvation since I got saved this year but recently I have been having some doubts in my mind about this. I know it is Satan trying to tempt me but I just need some reassurance guys. I am going to be studying my Bible even more for answers. I read it everyday but I'm going to start reading it even more even when I'm at work. Thank you everybody. I will pray for you in Jesus' name. Amen.

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73b9b0  No.714096[Reply]

When Baptists reject Mary as Mother of God, they deny Chalcedon. And here's why, this is what the core authority of Chalcedon says about Nestorius in "Against Nestorius",

This is what he(Nestorius) said then, when he pronounced the term ‘Theotokos’ unsound as applied to the holy Virgin:

1 ==I(Nestorius) often asked them (that is, those who contradict him), ‘Do you say that the Godhead has been born of the holy Virgin?’== At once they pounce on the phrase, ‘And who,’ they say, ‘is so sick with such a blasphemy as to say that in her who gave birth to the temple, in her was God conceived by the Spirit?’ ==Then when I reply to this, ‘What is wrong, then, about our advising the avoidance of this expression and the acceptance of the common meaning of the two natures?==’ then it seems to them that what we have said is blasphemy. ==Either admit clearly that the Godhead has been born from the blessed Mary==, or if you avoid this expression as blasphemous, why do you say the same things as I do, yet pretend that you are not saying them?18

From:Against Nestorius, quoted from Norman Russell's "Cyril of Alexandria"(pg.132)

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774961  No.714794

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>pictures of people in mourning processing respect to people they actually personally knew

>military/police courtesy ritual

<literal idolatry to mommy goddess

Yup, those are the same


>point out historical and continued weird or unacceptable behaviors

<This isn't a teaching or belief of the catholic church!

The only thing any of you have successfully taught anyone is that you guys are completely inconsistent and have no principles at all. You can only repeat what you were told to repeat.

90303a  No.714796


>point out historical and continued weird or unacceptable behaviors

The problem for you is those "unacceptable behaviors" were practiced by ALL Christians for over 1000 years, and affirmed by the Church fathers. That's the entire reason why Protestants ignore the church fathers and cling to their flawed interpretation of scripture. The fact that Christians from the first and second century were entirely Catholic in their theology and routinely condemned Protestant type doctrines as heresy is an unfortunate fact that many protestants conveniently ignore because it hurts their ridiculous "Pastor Jim" type conspiracy theories

Those weird behaviors are Christianity in it's purest form, the form handed down to us from the earliest christians in an unbroken chain of succession. Protestant doctrine was a fabrication of the 16th century and appeals to people who have no understanding of history, no understanding of the church, no understanding of faith and thus fall for the most ludicrously shallow arguments based on cherry picking bible verses in a game of "choose your bible adventure!" prots have been playing for the past 400 years and continue to splinter over it

85a3fd  No.714801

Is Jesus fully divine? Yes.

Is Jesus fully human? Yes.

Is Jesus God the Son? Yes.

Did Jesus enter Sheol? Yes.

Is God the Son the Father or the Holy Spirit? No

Did God the Son exist prior to Mary? Yes.

Thus Theotokos is a contradictory title because only divine Person of the Trinity entered into flesh and the Triune God is eternal. So Huiostoutheodesarxtokos (God the Son in the flesh barer) is the best description for Mary.

0459cc  No.714804


>saluting gravestones to honor dead soldiers

>idolatry when done to Christian saints who served God

Baptist Nestorian logic

Be consistent

0459cc  No.714805


>saluting gravestones to honor dead soldiers

>idolatry when done to Christian saints who served God

Baptist Nestorian logic

Be consistent

But when the adversary of the race of the righteous, the envious, malicious, and wicked one, perceived the impressive463 nature of his martyrdom, and [considered] the blameless life he had led from the beginning, and how he was now crowned with the wreath of immortality, having beyond dispute received his reward, he did his utmost that not the least memorial of him should be taken away by us, although many desired to do this, and to become possessors464 of his holy flesh. For this end he suggested it to Nicetes, the father of Herod and brother of Alce, to go and entreat the governor not to give up his body to be buried, “lest,” said he, “forsaking Him 43that was crucified, they begin to worship this one.” This he said at the suggestion and urgent persuasion of the Jews, who also watched us, as we sought to take him out of the fire, being ignorant of this, that it is neither possible for us ever to forsake Christ, who suffered for the salvation of such as shall be saved throughout the whole world (the blameless one for sinners465), nor to worship any other. For Him indeed, as being the Son of God, we adore; but the martyrs, as disciples and followers of the Lord, we worthily love on account of their extraordinary466 affection towards their own King and Master, of whom may we also be made companions467 and fellow-disciples!https://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/anf01.iv.iv.xvii.html

This kills the Baptist

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517d8d  No.714750[Reply]

Was Solomon Kane a good Christian?

e3c6f4  No.714778


Was this thread made before?

517d8d  No.714800


No. The thread was about the shadow.

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c5c042  No.657770[Reply]


This thread is to help all the Orthodox anons on this board to gather their thoughts, uplift each other, share edifying materials, and ask important questions.

Glory be to God in all things.

Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me a sinner.

Useful Links

Ancient Faith Radio: http://www.ancientfaith.com/

OrthodoxWiki: https://orthodoxwiki.org/Main_Page

Canons of the Seven Ecumenical Councils: http://www.intratext.com/IXT/ENG0835/_INDEX.HTM

The Orthodox Church in America: https://oca.org/

Orthodox Christianity (a site that hosts articles predominantly written by clergy): http://orthochristian.com/

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64b318  No.713747


>Is there a real threat of a schism here as it stands?


Schism happens when division is due to doctrinal issues, not political ones. Jerusalem and Antioch have severed communion with eachother for some time now, but they are not in schism.

162c79  No.713759


If schism means nothing, then communion means nothing.


I notice that the EO have the same conception of the Church as protestants do. It's this invisible thing that you are part of if you hold the "true beliefs".

tsk tsk.

64b318  No.713769


>If schism means nothing

Thats not what I wrote you bloody autist, go back to your fearmongering """church"""

a08669  No.713909


Can anyone give answer to this guy? Im not the expert on this subject, maybe you guys can give a correct response?

aa3297  No.714799

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0d2d84  No.711810[Reply]

How do you figure out which denomination is the one you should follow?

Does it even matter?

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9ce904  No.714140


If you're saved, follow Christ. That makes you a Christian, which is all you need to call yourself. Whatever other traditions you do or don't honor are irrelevant so long as they don't disobey His commandments.

>tl;dr follow Christ and what you'll find is Christianity.

21da9c  No.714178

I've been struggling with these questions a lot too. I fell away from religion for a tome, but as of late I've been brought back into the fold. This has been my hurdle. I know Christ is in my life, I know that God is providing for me and I trust his judgment. However, I can't figure out if there is one church apart from the rest or if all of the mainstream denominations are true ways to seek Christ.

Surely I'd get some sort of sign if I was on the wrong path, right? I'm a 20 year old protestant looking to get into ministry and I just feel like I've been blessed in so much of my life that I feel like God isn't upset with the path I'm on.

He's given me my wonderful life, the love of my life that I'm marrying, he gives me strength and comforts me when I pray for it. I've been really sick lately, but even then, I feel like I used to when I pray for help. I know I still sin and do wrong, but I feel like I wouldn't have had these experiences if I was on the wrong path.

I imagine there are people from every denomination that feel this way. Maybe we all feel blessed because we're all on the right path and coming to Christ through our faith? I don't know, I'm rambling. I guess I don't really have an answer for you besides: "but seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you."

11f730  No.714192

I believe it's important to attend Sunday services so don't choose one without a church near you.

46a85d  No.714795


It's mainly a Catholic board.

12db0a  No.714798


>Begoming Miaphysite :DDDD

no thanks. Also the early church fathers were more aligned with the western tradition of thought than the eastern crypto-Platonist "it's just a mystery, man"

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e24d5e  No.705333[Reply]

How does one believe in the possibility of omniscience while simultaneously believing in free will?

If the choice somebody is going to make in the future can be completely derived from other knowledge, surely then the choice was not at all free; it was caused and constrained.

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b2d6f1  No.714780


> is there any other way things would have played out, or does everything play out exactly as it should?

It's not "playing out as it should", it's playing out as it will.

>I believe everything happens the one way it was meant to, and since there is no other way, free will is little more than a construct to process the direction humans go as individuals.

Free will is the only method whereby that souls can be said to freely choose between good and evil with nothing else, except the Grace of God.

Throw out Free Will, you throw out Grace and you throw out a perfect God, for if God only accepts those He had pre-made perfect, then who can be said to be in Hell of their own volition?

I believe Determinism is little more than a construct for protestants to process the direction humans go without the true teachings.

fe7584  No.714782


Divine should, not human should

And God does not make people pre-perfect. He creates them, puts them in the environment, and knows exactly how that environment has been shaped, has impacted all others, and by extension will place that person in the end. He intervenes where prudent to carry out his will, but ultimately everything goes as He intends. That does not absolve anyone of their actions, because we operate in a world that instinctually assumes free will, but in the context of an omnipotent creator, it makes very little sense.

f11e39  No.714784

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843be9  No.714785

In our ordinary everyday sense of free will, we don't assume that being able to correctly predict someone's actions means they don't have it. It's not any different when the one able to correctly predict someone's actions is God.

Materialist determinism is incompatible with free will, but that's because of the particular way in which actions can be predicted. You don't need to look at reasons to make the prediction in that case, only physical causes. God knows what we'll do because He knows the reasons we take into account and knows us more intimately than our closest friends, not because we're machines that He set in motion.

fe7584  No.714791


Yes, but I believe our everyday concept of free will to be a construct to facilitate people behaving as if it were an absolute, metaphysically I don't think there is such thing. I don't believe in more timelines than ours, I've never read anything to suggest that is the case, so everything in the universe must play out its one time as intended. Even though we operate and make decisions under the assumption of free will, I don't think we have it if we were never going to make another choice other than the one we made.

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7e4d25  No.658214[Reply]


The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for general Catholic discussion. Mass, readings, rosary - everything that is connected with the faith.

Other denominations welcome, although we politely ask you to keep the arguments about our theological differences in other threads.

Useful links:

Official Vatican website: www.vatican.va

Today's readings: www.ewtn.com/daily-readings/

Papal encyclicals: www.papalencyclicals.net

Catholic encyclopedia online: www.newadvent.org/cathen/

Summa Theologiae of St. Thomas Aquinas online: www.newadvent.org/summa/

How to pray the rosary: www.rosarycenter.org/homepage-2/rosary/how-to-pray-the-rosary/

Divine Office (liturgy of the hours): www.divineoffice.org/welcome/

Little Office of the Immaculate Conception: www.catholic.org/prayers/prayer.php?p=1925

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042fed  No.714533

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59b422  No.714544



Not in a mood to become an heretic lad.

cbdbec  No.714560


I went to a Catholic mass today for the first time. I think I am going to join the church and go through RCIA. Any advice or links?

73a4d7  No.714566


Canonizations are not dogmas, nor infallible.

20fba9  No.714786


Well I can only wish you good luck m8.

Always listen to the priest and ask him for help everytime you need it.

God be with you anon.


Actually they are infallible. It's a infallible statement that that person is in heaven.

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d4277e  No.714586[Reply]

POPE: Beware well-mannered demons…

During his morning Mass on Friday Pope Francis spoke about how well-mannered demons can lead us to worldliness with guile and persuasion.


Pope Francis celebrated Mass Friday morning at the Casa Santa Marta in the Vatican, saying that when the devil cannot destroy head on with vices, wars or injustices, he does so subtly with guiles, gradually leading people into the spirit of the world, making them feel nothing is wrong. He was sharing his reflection on the day’s Gospel reading where Jesus drives out a demon who returns with other more wicked spirits to take possession of his old home.

When the devil takes possession of a person’s heart, the Pope said, he makes it his home not wanting to leave, and tries to ruin the person and harm him even physically. The Pope explained that the struggle between good and evil in us human beings is the true struggle between the first struggle between God and the ancient serpent, between Jesus and the devil. Warning that the devil’s purpose and vocation is "to destroy the work of God", Pope Francis said that when the devil cannot destroy “face to face” because God is a greater force that defends the person, then he, cunning and "smarter than a fox", seeks ways to regain possession of that person.

Focusing on the Gospel episode where the demon returns after being cast out, the Pope said he very politely says he has returned when in fact he was thrown out. Finding the home “swept and adorned", he brings along with him several other spirits worse than him, and they enter and make it their residence, and the condition of that person becomes worse than before. The Pope said he make us feel comfortable that we are Christians, Catholics who go to Mass and pray. We do have our defects, our sins, but everything seems to be in order. Acting like a polite person the demon goes about to fiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

5d1ab2  No.714590


>Working silently, they make friends and persuade you on the road to mediocrity, making you "lukewarm" with worldliness.

Did Francis just address the NPC question?

9a8057  No.714724

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I know of one such demon.

170609  No.714754

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Is the Pope warning us about himself? trololol

c69dc6  No.714759


Probably. He said he is the devil and John Paul II was a saint.

258d77  No.714779


>Is he talking about himself

He should have seen this coming

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