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1b883f  No.40641[Reply]

anyone want to share their favorite rocket manatee or cushypen pics?

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9db7dd  No.68078

>>68059

Gender can be whatever you want, man. It's a social construct. Don't go putting your "rules" on me and mansplaining.


4963f0  No.68100

>>68078

>man

Did you just assume that person is a man?

TRIGGEREDDFDFDFFDFFDFd


6fa1e9  No.68101

>>68078

Fuck off to tumblr, retard.


faec60  No.68103

>>68078

>mansplaining

11/9 bait sure to trigger loads of redpilled pjw


c949df  No.68126

>>68078

I understand you have autism but can you go bitch about it on tumblr or after you commit suicide faggot




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9c04f8  No.56086[Reply]

Old thread >>31642

Post cute boys in padding like the title suggests. Thigh highs and OC appreciated!

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aa3583  No.68039

>>68026

ABU Simple with a sticker. Both are sold at https://us.abuniverse.com/


788ed4  No.68065

File: a02b89060900883⋯.jpg (1.09 MB, 3264x1592, 408:199, 20181007_160734.jpg)

>>67831

be warned! My cheeks are plump and firm, but the diaps are warm and squishy C:

>>67835

Do eeett

I'm for sure looking for frens :3

>tfw it's finally cold enough to wear long pants

>tfw I can finally shave all of my legs

:DDD


66176c  No.68076

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Felt like a cutie in my diapers today ☺️


a2b82f  No.68111

File: 60ddee1c779d2c8⋯.jpg (1.59 MB, 2448x3184, 153:199, IMG_20181019_160111.jpg)

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Here's a few pics. If you have requests or whatever let me know. Crossdressing and sissy are things I don't do


57e9e5  No.68124

>>67874

Nice, I do like drynites. I could show you mine if you like. I'm new to this.




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9c224d  No.45066[Reply]

so i have noticed people have posted images and asked where they came from so here is a thread for that

you post and image that you do not know where it came from

or if you know the creator or source of a post, let them know what it is

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e9ef6b  No.66800

File: 7b98f55d05bb13c⋯.jpg (65.56 KB, 640x960, 2:3, image0.jpg)

Does anyone have any idea on this one? I've been looking for a while but no dice so far. the only shit I can find is tumblr stuff which all leads back to an account that is all reposts with no artist credit. I think it might have had a watermark or signature but it's been removed


48e418  No.66804

>>65397

That's PieceofSoap


310646  No.66824

I was just thinking about one today…theres a pic I came across, maybe 5 years ago? Looks like a bridal party viewed from behind, girl (in her 20s I think) has a molicare or abena sticking out of her dress that has been pulled up. Doesn't look fake or staged, might not even be ABDL content at all. Any ideas?


f442f0  No.68087

File: 37b65f6cf6fffe9⋯.jpg (98.38 KB, 540x810, 2:3, tumblr_pgfar3si021vbav0j_5….jpg)

name of this model? rest of set?


7a04d5  No.68123

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So anybody know who did these and if they have a gallery somewhere




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56f77e  No.68114[Reply]

3D CG girl

56f77e  No.68115

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56f77e  No.68116

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e30afb  No.68121

I don’t know why this art is actually tolerable and fappable but why CG anime aside from some notable exceptions looks so shitty


56f77e  No.68122

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145f01  No.68125

>>68116

>That first pic

>WASTED




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3a0c2d  No.48668[Reply]

The entire catalog doesn't contain a single thread for posting girls in diapers, except maybe the tumblr one, but still. Post anything as long as it's a woman in diapers. Also post good sources for content

>ld-ba tumblr

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fcd24f  No.67208

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fcd24f  No.67210

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936404  No.67968

>>61242

Wish I knew this girl IRL, she's cute af


936404  No.67977

>>49129

Does this girl still come around? She's cute, took some great pics


3c612a  No.68120

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>>55547

Imagine gently patting that and feeling her soft little lady parts.




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953c38  No.66676[Reply]

previous thread: >>63051

i'll start us off with this:

https://mega.nz/#!fkkThQqT

key: !JP5sYHBcfWkGTskcxFUTMzkSh_dmmjO4KEI3oh5g7ls

(pic related)

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ab2e17  No.68097

>>68095

Outed?

Daisy was one of the first opportunists in the scene doing it only for money with no real interest in ABDL. She was never outed, just decided to move on to better paying perversions.


72334e  No.68104

>>68054

it is still there but you need flash.

firefox disables it by default (im not even sure you can still install it)

anway watch it on chrome with a flash plugin enabled


403780  No.68113

>>68097

Yeah after abdl she went by the name "Chelsea Waltzer".


c29b24  No.68118

I have a bunch of videos but idk how to post them help!?


ea4217  No.68119

>>68118 make a Mega account upload your files on there then link it to the thread




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a98d02  No.68079[Reply]

Daddy said i need to ask the sickos of the internet how i should be punished

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e76e29  No.68091

Since you posted The Simpson's, write "/abdl/ is tired of public humiliation threads" 50 times.


ab5cbf  No.68096

Let's make it fun. Roll a standard six sided dice.

1

No more internet.

2 - 5

No internet for 10 years.

6

Penectomy

Is that about inline with expectations for sickos on the internet ?


7a05d0  No.68107

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425cc0  No.68108

>>68096

Well, it's only fitting you get the penectomy


c47e35  No.68117

No diapers for you today. Or tomorrow. Or the next day.

You better think about what you've done to deserve this, little one.




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b8c938  No.68033[Reply]

Can't believe I'm typing this, but - what's the legality of masturbating to innocuous YouTube videos of mothers dealing with their babies? I'm talking about diaper change and morning routine vlog type of videos.

I'm aroused by the caring mothers a lot, but inevitably they film something like the naked baby taking a bath or something like that, and as I'm not a pedophile the whole thing turns very… awkward, and potentially immoral/illegal. I've seen people download these videos and share them on the video thread, or see there are YouTube playlists that are like 100+ videos of "diaper change". Seems kind of dangerous. Thoughts on watching/downloading this stuff?

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1f1645  No.68088

>>68082

Consent for one thing


a37d0a  No.68093

>>68050

>Good luck proving it was downloaded for the fappening…

They usually do that based on where it's saved. If you have it in a folder along side all your other fap material then it's pretty obvious what you were doing. If you want to be safe, keep it in a folder full of cute cat videos or something.

>>68050

>parents who film their children in the bath should be imprisoned

I'm sure that will make the world a better place and not just fuel your primitive desire to see people suffer… /s


16fadd  No.68105

>>68082

Mainly >>68088

Besides "diaper fetish" in itself only means attracted to diapers. Not ageplay. Personally I have a broader clothing fetish, though diapers comes in first.

Or maybe you're saying "how is it more fucked up than having ANY fetish",

>>68093

>I'm sure that will make the world a better place and not just fuel your primitive desire to see people suffer… /s

I hardly feel involved since I don't upload videos of naked kids on youtube, nor watch videos featuring naked kids on youtube, nor would I download them. Just saying that in that scenario the providers of child porn would be locked up too.

But, sorry to disappoint, I don't really care about what baffling morons feel, wether it be happiness or pain… I'm doing just fine not thinking about the retarded parents uploading their kids' bathroom session for the whole world to see. It's truly their problem.


2eb4d9  No.68106

its hard for me to watch mommying videos like that – i get so jealous :(


1d371b  No.68112

>>68042

Suicide isn’t an option, it’s the answer you autistic incel




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7fac8a  No.57290[Reply]

I don't think there are actually many examples of ABDL in Video Games but here we go anyways.

Screenshot is from Yakuza 2 with a substory called "Be My Baby"

https://youtu.be/43RNsxB4jy8?t=96

The remake is called Yakuza Kiwami 2 and also features this substory(plus actual ABDL looking diapers) The subs aren't official as it isn't out in the US yet: https://youtu.be/zO-rwAsAjrg?t=121

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6fa055  No.66618

>>66587

Better than most RPG Maker.


1421e8  No.66620

>>66618

I think that is RPG Maker… the 3D one.


6eb517  No.67964

File: 6f52eade701a5ff⋯.png (1.16 MB, 3387x2542, 3387:2542, ba893f71a02351d2233a08f5e1….png)

I wonder why there only a few abdl mods out there when it comes to games and even less attempts at making a game unless you count all that unfinished trash on foxtalestimes?


65f3ef  No.67980

My honest thought it is because there isn't much money in it and the work is overall harder if you want a quality product.

Plus to get one of those shitty products people complain about requires a lot of man hours.

I mean making vidya is a lot harder overall than just drawing or writing afterall.

So yeah, a lot of the games I've seen that might actually be finished are more or less part of a side product. Diaper Quest is a side product of Trap Quest, Perpetual Change is a side project for a larger pateron group.

The people who have tried to go game only just haven't made much money wise. I mean SpanQuest 2 the guy is only making a small amount per chapter. Baleful Bassinet I only getting $100 a month. Another project just up n died after a while.

So yeah there just isn't as much money to be made in gaming as there is to be made in writing or drawing


52ad68  No.68109

File: 36382d67032cf80⋯.png (16.19 KB, 794x510, 397:255, ClipboardImage.png)

I'm trying to make a space themed MUD that includes diaper and toilet use.

I liked abmud.com but I wanted something a bit more interactive, with more than just RP, though still having that when appropriate.




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118c49  No.67901[Reply]

Anyone wears cloth?

Did you find any good adult Trainers?

What do you think about Super-Undies?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehu6vwAroJw

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1e931f  No.67924

>>67901

I have some cloth diapers, but they always leak and aren't very discrete. Are these usual problems?


7070e7  No.67932

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>>67914

Pretty sure it's not a shop. The tumblr account's long gone but here's more from the same shoot.


bbcd2a  No.68038

File: 91d7f6bce621502⋯.jpg (37.41 KB, 640x640, 1:1, 0f815160fe86abde9cb4110105….jpg)

Why aren't there any adult Dry-Nites?

The soft feeling and smooth materials are unmatched by any adult-pullup I've ever worn!

…or are there adult Pull-Ups that are like a bigger Version of the DryNites I missed ?


bbcd2a  No.68051

>>68038

I wonder what it is that makes Drynites so comfy.


7070e7  No.68102

>>68038

The latest Depends have a closer feel to them than other adult pullups but there's just something about drynites/goodnites that's special.




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a8c4fd  No.43957[Reply]

Got anything with frillie-wearing diaper-sissies

getting fucked by their mistress with a strapon?

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3787fe  No.66441

>>66429

That gave me tingles.


6d7d13  No.68056

File: 28dd6926fae1e0c⋯.jpg (1.81 MB, 4608x3456, 4:3, 28dd6926fae1e0c5bf79283730….jpg)

>>62862

I kinda agree.


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b35fa9  No.68085

>>66027

>>66055

I want to cuddle with you so bad~


12f6ec  No.68098

File: 9de80472c8e5992⋯.jpg (1.77 MB, 1652x2202, 826:1101, selfiecamera_2018-10-07-11….jpg)

>>68085

Yes pls




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ac8f70  No.64620[Reply]

Are there ay ABDL-figurines?

I couldn't find any.

063854  No.64632

File: f2c0944c8709ffd⋯.jpg (8.81 KB, 256x170, 128:85, 33796.jpg)

https://myfigurecollection.net/item/33796

Only one I'm aware of.

And I can't find anything bigger than this ant picture.


74f48f  No.64695

File: 42e2176be9a59f9⋯.jpg (143.06 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, tsHBIS2.jpg)

>>64620

>>64632

aren't there any selfmade ones?


592249  No.68086

>>64620

>>64632

bump for moar!




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78b9f1  No.56865[Reply]

There's a Loud House episode called The Whole Picture, where Lincoln wears a diaper

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1bae74  No.67707

>>67703

>http://rugrats.wikia.com/wiki/The_Trial

I find links so you don't have too. Took less than 5 seconds. No need to thank me.

Use "ctrl+f diaper" on that page if you're having trouble. There are other examples of season one, but the rugrats wiki is a bit incomplete unfortunately.


1bae74  No.67713

>>67707

I'm back, bitches

>She wore a diaper over her tights during season one. In season 2 onwards she wore frilly panties (since she is now potty trained.)

Sauce? >http://rugrats.wikia.com/wiki/Angelica_Pickles#Rugrats

Her wiki character page.

So, >>67703 suck at research,

>>67636 can keep that boner alive knowing your headcanon is actually canon.

And I… feel horrible and ashamed

But besides the case, don't know how legit that canon is, cause it's a bit incomplete and lacking in minute detail. As well as created by fans with their own interpretations and inputs on the articles, so yeah…


46b256  No.67756

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6f3187  No.68080

File: 64fb62ed73a5830⋯.png (531.89 KB, 1000x750, 4:3, CD3F97ED-6714-4A53-8C5B-F9….png)

Bugs sure dose find a way to end up in diapers dosnt he


24d67e  No.68083

>>68080

which ep is this??




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ccbc21  No.67430[Reply]

Post those big diapers, also what the absolute fuck happened last night?

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7e3037  No.67926

>>67841

She cute and into it but the baby talk tends to be a huge boner killer. I guess it works for closet pedos mostly, which is why her content is being spread like a kike would spare a dime.


45fe25  No.68072

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45fe25  No.68073

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45fe25  No.68074

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d94aee  No.56102[Reply]

>CTRL + F

>no messing thread

Let's fix this, anons. Post your favorite diaper messing pictures, gifs and videos ITT. Spoiler it if you think it's needed. Women only

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f58422  No.67962

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>>67961

hehe thanks <3<3<3


686b1e  No.68047

I’m getting some alone time for a few hours tonight so I decided I’m going to mess myself. I really like the sensation but what do you guys do once you mess? Where do you mess? I typically just fap and clean up but I want to add something new to it


3dd3ad  No.68058

>>67960

>>67962

Amateur stuff like this really is the cutest. Appreciate you anon.


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>>68058

thanks ☺☺☺


c645f3  No.68071

>>68047

>>68047

Drink a sizeable amount of prune juice, metamucil, and a significant amount of water to stay hydrated. Onset in 1-5 hours i dont remember

Alternatively, eat a block of artisan quality hard cheese the night before.

Unfortunately the digestive system is a process so it takes some forethought to get interesting results.




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